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Post by benscaro on Jan 31, 2017 1:32:10 GMT -8
The Australian 421 class has the right wheelbase truck and I think the sideframes may be close.
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Post by hovehicle on Jan 31, 2017 9:33:15 GMT -8
The SDL-39 would be a good candidate for Fox Valley Models I think. They seem to like Milwaukee Road and Soo Line, so I think it would be a good fit for them. I would buy 1 each of Milwaukee Road, WC, and Soo. Of course, CP would be a great fantasy paint scheme for a later run.
Vito L.
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Post by riogrande on Jan 31, 2017 9:45:37 GMT -8
The SDL-39 would be a good candidate for Fox Valley Models I think. They seem to like Milwaukee Road and Soo Line, so I think it would be a good fit for them. I would buy 1 each of Milwaukee Road, WC, and Soo. Of course, CP would be a great fantasy paint scheme for a later run. Vito L. As always, the trick to getting something made is for there be enough sales to cover the tooling and production costs and make some profit as well. If the SDL39 can be made in enough flavors, and sell enough, thats the trick. Of course thats the difficulty in getting a rather unique engine offered in plastic |
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Post by jbilbrey on Jan 31, 2017 15:34:01 GMT -8
While I have no connection with the designer, there is a least a possible option via Shapeways: Shapeways SDL-39It would still be up to the buyer to come up with trucks and a driveline for the model. Of course, other details would need to be sourced as well. James Bilbrey LaVergne, TN |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 15:55:30 GMT -8
While I have no connection with the designer, there is a least a possible option via Shapeways: Shapeways SDL-39It would still be up to the buyer to come up with trucks and a driveline for the model. Of course, other details would need to be sourced as well. James Bilbrey LaVergne, TN Who is going to buy this without seeing a photo? For $83 you get "Black nylon plastic with a matte finish and slight grainy feel" (Scales up to looking like the prototype was cast in a gravel mold.) For $176 you get Frosted Ultra Detail with less graininess. Pass. Better to bash some styrene, IMO. |
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Post by roadkill on Jan 31, 2017 16:59:20 GMT -8
All I'd consider from Shapeways would be the sideframes as they're by far the most difficult part to locate, as for the rest screw that and give me a pile of Cannon parts and some Evergreen stock. Sheesh... $176.00 for frosted ultra detail? Yikes!
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Post by Great-Northern-Willmar Div on Jan 31, 2017 18:51:52 GMT -8
There isn't even an actual photo of the products. You are supposed to plop nearly two bills on a conception? I think I'll stick with a Kaslo model, at least I know what I'm buying and what is needed.
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Post by jbilbrey on Jan 31, 2017 18:59:17 GMT -8
All I'd consider from Shapeways would be the sideframes as they're by far the most difficult part to locate, as for the rest screw that and give me a pile of Cannon parts and some Evergreen stock. Sheesh... $176.00 for frosted ultra detail? Yikes! I agree with everyone. I was just throwing it out there as a potential option way down the line. It was just something interesting that I found while browsing the site one night. Using that as the basis for a SDL-39 would get expensive quickly. One would also need to figure in all the detail parts and handrails that would be needed to complete the project. One might even himself cutting off parts [the nose, cab, cab sub-base, fans, etc.] to replace with other parts that would further drive up the cost. And, we haven't even gotten to the increasing costs due the finer resolution/better materials used to "print" the shell. Reasons like these keep me from buying a lot of things that I see on Shapeways. As was touched upon on another thread, the prices Shapeways charges are a bit excessive at times - especially when it comes to HO locomotives. On another forum, a person was working on a 3D printed C39-8 shell, but kept running into issues. If he printed it with a thin shell to keep the price down, it was too fragile. If he printed it with a thicker shell, the price was too great. I think he ultimately abandoned the project all together. James Bilbrey LaVergne, TN |
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Post by benscaro on Feb 1, 2017 14:06:21 GMT -8
A finicky N scaler could use the old Atlas/Kato RSD4/5. It has 12' trucks (should be 12'6".)
I do not know if the HO Atlas/Kato RSD4/5 had the same discrepancy.
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Post by oldmuley on Feb 1, 2017 17:32:08 GMT -8
There have been enough articles written on building a SDL39 over the years that I may actually take a stab at doing a full scratch build one of these days. The trucks would be the toughest part- but the shell should be fairly straightforward if a guy took his time (and had the skills). I wonder what it would cost to just get some decent side frames printed from Shapeways? Edit: I just looked it up. $25 for frosted ultra detail side frames.
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Post by 12bridge on Feb 1, 2017 17:48:52 GMT -8
Dont forget, the designer sets the markup on shapeways...
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Post by mikeinsewi on Feb 2, 2017 10:48:04 GMT -8
Go to WC2Scale.org A great modeler, Andrew Castle, built one from scratch, body, frame, trucks and all. You can also go the photo archives, "WC Motive Power", and look at pictures of different SDL39s'. wc2scale.org/index.phpMike. |
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Feb 3, 2017 3:39:45 GMT -8
Go to WC2Scale.org A great modeler, Andrew Castle, built one from scratch, body, frame, trucks and all. You can also go the photo archives, "WC Motive Power", and look at pictures of different SDL39s'. wc2scale.org/index.phpYes, Andrew Castle is a fantastic modeller! But he actually made at least two of these! His first was documented in an article in the September 2004 issue of Model Railroader article. It used chopped up Athearn "blue box" frames and drive components. The newer model for 2011 uses modified Atlas SD35 frame and trucks. |
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Post by gtws00 on Feb 3, 2017 6:34:11 GMT -8
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Feb 3, 2017 8:14:25 GMT -8
I used Andrews Article to build an SDL 39. It is about ready for paint now, but I am still working out drive issues. I am making a new a new frame out of brass. Wow. Just wow. |
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Post by Chet on Feb 3, 2017 9:50:15 GMT -8
I picked up a brass SDL39 years ago from Overland Models and painted it for the Milwaukee Road. I am a Milwaukee Road fan as I have relatives the worked for them in Montana and I had spent many hours riding with them when I was a kid. I showed the finished model to them and that is when I found out that they were not used in Montana where I am modeling, but mainly in the Dakotas, Minnesota and some times in Wisconsin.
I always liked the chunks look of the shorter locomotive with the three axle trucks. I only run it occasionally but it is an extremely smooth running locomotive. I have seen them for sale but are a bit pricey. Let me think about it and maybe I'll let mine go.
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Post by oldmuley on Feb 3, 2017 18:32:15 GMT -8
I have seen them for sale but are a bit pricey. Let me think about it and maybe I'll let mine go. I call dibs! |
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Post by benscaro on Feb 4, 2017 1:44:07 GMT -8
I would caution people that with Shapeways prints I have that are a few years old, there is a lot of bowing and some thin parts, for example supports on the ends of hoppers, have crumbled away. I remain unconvinced the material is stable enough for modelling use.
Even on i-materialise prints, there is bowing and deterioration after two years, and i-materialise use a material far better than Shapeways.
For tiny difficult shapes, such as buffers (used on British or Euro wagons) or truck sideframes, it may have application, but probably not for anything 'structural'.
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