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Post by navarch1 on Apr 11, 2014 13:40:09 GMT -8
Here are some progress pictures as I get the layout room, social area and workshop finish work underway. Picture 1 is the enclosure around the stairway from below. It will be covered in sheet rock and you can see lighting switches and outlets are installed. Picture 2 is at the top of the stairs, showing that main ceiling fan switches and lighting switches. Picture 3 Shows the relationship downstairs of that stairway to the house entrance and the socializing area. Bob
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Post by navarch1 on Apr 11, 2014 13:50:55 GMT -8
Here are more views... Picture 1 shows the celiling can lighting installed. Sheet rock work begins next week. Picture 2 shows the sheet rock and plaster stcked and ready to go. Picture 3 shows a view looking toward the new workshop. There will be a wall there from right to left to enclose that room. Plumbing is all done, main electrical is all done. Insulation is next, followed by HVAC, then sheet rock, and finally flooring - then the Contractor will put up the benchwork in 2 phases, first the lower level staging then the main layout and helices. Bob
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Post by atsfan on Apr 11, 2014 14:15:10 GMT -8
The ceiling is interesting. Are those purlins to hold the sheetrock drywall? Are the joists too far apart to provide enough bite?
Great looking project. I am jealous! I had visions of a second floor but I have to space to expand lengthwise and since I am rebuilding it will go faster that way.
What are your thoughts on windows in the layout area? I think I see some. Some people avoid them to have more uninterrupted wall. But then there is not much light......
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Post by navarch1 on Apr 11, 2014 20:38:51 GMT -8
The ceiling is interesting. Are those purlins to hold the sheetrock drywall? Are the joists too far apart to provide enough bite? Great looking project. I am jealous! I had visions of a second floor but I have to space to expand lengthwise and since I am rebuilding it will go faster that way. What are your thoughts on windows in the layout area? I think I see some. Some people avoid them to have more uninterrupted wall. But then there is not much light...... All of the structure for the ceiling meets code, and the "K" trusses are properly spaced. It is hard to see them up there but there are also three longitudinal trusses/girders crossing the more obvious transverse ones. The strapping you see is indeed for the sheet rock. The sheet rock is all 4' x 12' sheets. As for windows, I have four of them on one wall only. These are 3' x 3' windows, that crank open. All are located such that the bottom of them is just below the benchwork far enough that I can get at the cranks on them. (the crank outward at the bottom ). This gives me good light most of the day and they are small enough that I can cut portable backdrop pieces to fit in place over them snugly but not otherwise secured. The other three walls are all window-less. This has of course, led to some of my neighbors wondering if there is not something "Area-51-ish about what I'm doing here...lol. I felt I needed one wall of windows for sure, because most of the time the backdrop pieces will be off them - we all need natural light in places we may spend a lot of time in. I decided against skylights because I have yet to see one that does not eventually leak, plus they would have to be power-opening as high as they would have been in that room. Also, a total lack of windows on the street side just did not look very good. I did not want to cause the neighbors to see the building as an eyesore or make it too odd looking. The architect did a good job given the weird parameters I asked him to deal with. Bob
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Post by onequiknova on Apr 11, 2014 21:15:44 GMT -8
I'm a bit curious why you went this route instead of a basement? I'm jealous non the less.
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Post by navarch1 on Apr 12, 2014 16:08:37 GMT -8
I'm a bit curious why you went this route instead of a basement? I'm jealous non the less. Well, a few reasons; The water table here is very high and my basement used to get many inches of water. I installed a Baement Technologies system and for 6 years it has been bone dry. But given the amount of effort I was planning to put into this layout, I did want a nice, new clean space. I was planning to upgrade/add on to my house anyway, so I decided to just go the whole way and make the first floor the living space and double it then I'd have a 61 x 27 railroad space upstairs. Doing it upstairs allwed me to go with "K" trusses in the overhead and that meant no posts, support walls or other obstructions in the entire space. The basement had several columns plus all the heating and hot water equipment. The one open space would be easier to central-air condition and heat. This choice meant I did not have to put an entire deep basement under the new addition - only a half-height one. This space would be far easier to finish and make attractive than trying to do that to the basement. According to the architect/contractor, rehabbing the basement, adding on to the basement and upgrading the finish, plus relocating all the heating/hot water equipment would cost more than the upstairs option. I ended up with nice high ceilings and better lighting. Therein lies the story Bob
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Post by keystonefarm on Apr 13, 2014 11:40:36 GMT -8
Looks very well done Bob I did something similar about 22 years ago. I built a 32 x 80 two story barn. First floor is a workshop, office and car parking. Second floor is the rr room. My second floor has no windows just two emergency exit doors. The outside of building has 8 fake barn sliders in place to break up the long walls. Once you get your drywall in a reccomendation. Paint your wood floor a light gray before any benchwork is installed. It will brighten up the room and make seeing things under the benchwork much easier. It will make cleaning up the floor much easier and will cut down on dist. After a number of years I had some carpet installed in the aisle ways for leg comfort and it will also quiet the room down quite a bit. ------------------------------ Ken McCorry
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Post by Gary P on Apr 14, 2014 7:39:30 GMT -8
Bob - All I can say is WOW! That is going to be a super place when done. Please keep us posted on your progress!
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Post by navarch1 on Apr 17, 2014 17:17:55 GMT -8
Looks very well done Bob I did something similar about 22 years ago. I built a 32 x 80 two story barn. First floor is a workshop, office and car parking. Second floor is the rr room. My second floor has no windows just two emergency exit doors. The outside of building has 8 fake barn sliders in place to break up the long walls. Once you get your drywall in a reccomendation. Paint your wood floor a light gray before any benchwork is installed. It will brighten up the room and make seeing things under the benchwork much easier. It will make cleaning up the floor much easier and will cut down on dist. After a number of years I had some carpet installed in the aisle ways for leg comfort and it will also quiet the room down quite a bit. ------------------------------ Ken McCorry ken, I believe I saw your layout in Tony Koester's bok on multi-level rairlroads? Really nicely done.....do you have a web page? Bob
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Post by navarch1 on Apr 17, 2014 17:19:03 GMT -8
Bob - All I can say is WOW! That is going to be a super place when done. Please keep us posted on your progress! Thank you....and not to worry...I'll be bugging people regularly Bob
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Post by keystonefarm on Apr 17, 2014 17:42:58 GMT -8
Hi Bob, that is my rr in the multi level book. No web page but there are a few video's of it on you tube. --- Ken
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Post by wmrdgfan on Apr 18, 2014 4:36:58 GMT -8
I was at an open house that Ken had several years ago. The building and Railroad are what most of us model railroaders and car buffs can only dream of. It is very,very nice. My railroad is in my basement, and the older I get the more I feel like I need to see daylight. Its nice that in the summer it is cool and in the winter I don't need to spend any extra to heat it,but all of the things that get in the way such as water heaters ,furnace, oil tank, etc always seem to be right where you don't want them. Your train room looks like it will be a great place to have a railroad....Jeff
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Post by navarch1 on Apr 19, 2014 11:26:21 GMT -8
Thanks to everyone for the kind notes.
Ken, As it happens the light gray floor paint was exactly the plan. I'll be using a marine deck paint on the entire floor, then rubber tiles in the walkways. The light gray color will certainly brighten the space below the railroad and the reflectivity of it will allow me to work beneath it using modern LED-based lanterns. The top of my staging yard will be painted white, to create even more reflectivity. I will run LED light strip under the main layout and over the staging yard (capable of being turned on and off) to illuminate it.
I'll look for your videos on YouTube.
Bob
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Post by navarch1 on Apr 28, 2014 5:21:49 GMT -8
Rather than opening a new thread every time there is progress, I will try and keep this one active with progress pictures on the room prep. Once I move into layout benchwork and track laying, I'll start another thread. So here is this week's progress on the room. Picture 1 shows the heat/A/C air handler nestled up in the trusswork of the ceiling. a well-located access hatch will be placed to give a service tech all the space needed to maintain/work on the units and deal with filter changeouts, etc. Chilled or hot water, such as the seaon requires, are sent to the air handler to provide cooling or heating. The remainder of the images show the insulated ductwork as well as the supply/return registers. Bob
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