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Post by roadkill on Jul 12, 2014 13:26:34 GMT -8
that's the Critter Ed !! maybe the model is slightly long to go over the Power truck ? not too bad for a pre-1960 Critter. the Tyco made in the USA 4 wheel Trolly also used the 4 wheel power truck,so they can be up-graded a bit also. CR-4 = Christian Root designer?,4 wheels. Plymouth was the trade name for the Faith-Root-Heath co,or something like that,will check that later. Nice Pics Ed !! Spikre That model is still easily 25% oversized, although it's closer that the (at least) 50% oversized end cab Plymouth.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 12, 2014 14:17:49 GMT -8
That model is still easily 25% oversized, although it's closer that the (at least) 50% oversized end cab Plymouth. I disagree. I get easily 10% oversized, maybe up to 14%. That's measuring off the model photo--comparing the roofline with the grill on the adjacent F unit. If anyone out there has one, it could be measured. Gee, I wish I had bought one when they were around. Sadly, though, the fineness of the body casting is, uh, er, a bit short of exquisite. Ed
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Post by roadkill on Jul 12, 2014 14:37:31 GMT -8
Years ago there was the hulk of one just inside the fence of the Plymouth Locomotive Works, and I got plenty of pic of it. Sadly I've misplaced them, along with many other cool old slides. The Tyoc model, although reasonably well proportioned, is still quite oversized, but not quite S scale like its end cab relatives.
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Post by atsfan on Jul 13, 2014 15:19:06 GMT -8
I don't know if it's really a "critter", but it is certainly a new small diesel switcher: and a prototype shot: It looks kinda interesting. Ed PASS
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 13, 2014 15:57:28 GMT -8
atsfan,
Thanks for your contribution to this discussion. So much insight and subtle observation, yet condensed into a single word. It changes everything, I think.
Ed
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Post by atsfan on Jul 13, 2014 16:19:14 GMT -8
atsfan, Thanks for your contribution to this discussion. So much insight and subtle observation, yet condensed into a single word. It changes everything, I think. Ed Just saying I am passing. I am not alone. Nothing beyond that.
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Post by roadkill on Jul 13, 2014 17:28:40 GMT -8
That little beast would be great for a smallish grain elevator. Might have to get one if it runs decently.
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Post by mowingman on Jul 13, 2014 18:21:29 GMT -8
I think it is a neat model. I am in for one, and I don't even model in HO scale.
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Post by atsfan on Jul 14, 2014 15:13:08 GMT -8
That little beast would be great for a smallish grain elevator. Might have to get one if it runs decently. An old GP, RS-2, or S-2 would do nicely, and pull more.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 14, 2014 15:38:58 GMT -8
That little beast would be great for a smallish grain elevator. Might have to get one if it runs decently. An old GP, RS-2, or S-2 would do nicely, and pull more. Well, one of those would cost at least $100,000, while you can get Plymouth's for $20,000-$30,000. And if you have a smallish grain elevator, do you need to "pull more"? So, can you justify spending $70,000 for a too-big engine? Or would you rather distribute the money to the stockholders? Ed
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Post by roadkill on Jul 14, 2014 17:39:01 GMT -8
That little beast would be great for a smallish grain elevator. Might have to get one if it runs decently. An old GP, RS-2, or S-2 would do nicely, and pull more. Very true, but not all elevators need something that big. There's a smallish elevator in Monroeville, Ohio on a short relaid stretch of B&O's old Sandusky Branch that uses a GE end cab 25 tonner (like the Grandt Line model) and Landmark in Grafton, Ohio uses a GE 45t siderodder.
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Post by Spikre on Jul 16, 2014 10:20:19 GMT -8
heres some info on Plymouth from DSG-II: Fate-Root-Heath was located in Plymouth Ohio. built their 1st loco in 1914. was building locos marketed as "Plymouth" before Chrysler started the line of Plymouth cars. not sure what year they closed,or how many locos they built ? they did build Gas/Diesel Electrics,Mechanicals,and Hydraulics. Spikre
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Post by mowingman on Jul 16, 2014 15:00:28 GMT -8
Plymouth Locomotive ceased production about 1999. Drawings/patents/name, etc, were sold to the W.W. Williams co. A new company called "Plymouth Locomotive Service" was started by former Plymouth Locomotive employees. They provide parts, service, and rebuilding services for Plymouth locomotives. Jeff
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Post by Spikre on Jul 18, 2014 9:13:29 GMT -8
Jeff, thanks for the Rest of the Plymouth story !! any ballpark numbers on how many locos Plymouth built ? Spikre
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Post by roadkill on Jul 18, 2014 10:43:13 GMT -8
For what it's worth the Plymouth Locomotive Works Wiki page says over 7500.
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Post by mowingman on Jul 18, 2014 17:30:46 GMT -8
I bet you could call the folks at Plymouth Locomotive Service, and possible get some production numbers. The owners of that company are former Plymouth Locomotive employees, with many years of service there. Jeff
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Post by Spikre on Jul 19, 2014 12:08:11 GMT -8
Roadkill and Jeff, 7500+ sounds like a good number to put into DSG-II. will note that info is from the Infallable Wiki sight. Thanks Guys !! Spikre
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Post by diburning on Jul 20, 2014 2:22:00 GMT -8
It seems that whoever comes up with new products and/or makes the decision for new products at BLI does it on a whim. Although they'll probably sell tons of these in their fantasy Class I paint schemes, it makes me wonder how many people bought their DCC address changer. I can probably count them on one hand.
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Post by Spikre on Jul 23, 2014 14:01:56 GMT -8
am sure that this Plymouth is meant to compliment the Trackmobile. or possibly even replace it if the modern crowd isn't really loading up on them. Spikre
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 23, 2014 14:54:30 GMT -8
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Post by Spikre on Jul 28, 2014 10:41:31 GMT -8
Ed, nice pic !! these type of critters show up in all sorts of places. this U.P. one was an MOW unit ? Spikre
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 28, 2014 11:33:59 GMT -8
From Hol Wagner's "Union Pacific Motive Power Review 1968-77": It was bought from Boeing ( ??) 11/71 for use as a shop switcher at North Platte. It was transferred to Pocatello in 1974 and retired in 1978. If I was modeling those places in those eras, I'd buy the BLI critter and consider myself lucky. Until someone came up with a closer one. Ed
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Post by Spikre on Jul 29, 2014 11:57:36 GMT -8
Ed, any pics of that critter next to a Centennial,or U50C ? that would be an interesting contrast. Spikre
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 29, 2014 12:03:19 GMT -8
Spikre,
If I knew of one, it wooda been here!
Ed
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