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Post by Spikre on Jun 21, 2014 10:10:51 GMT -8
 sure everyone remembers that PCM announced these about a decade ago. well now BLI says they are coming this year. should look good mixed in with the Bowser H30s. only downside is they are sold in 4 packs,which wouldnt be bad if they could be mixed up,but 4 of 1 paint scheme is too much for here. Spikre 
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Post by keystonecrossings on Jun 21, 2014 13:14:11 GMT -8
Thanks for rejoining us, Rip Van Winkle! ;-)
They showed the test shots in early February. Yes, they are coming finally.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jun 21, 2014 17:03:21 GMT -8
Yes,
Four of one paint scheme is a deal killer for me. I would hope they could figure out a way to offer singles. They did for the NYC boxcars.
Ed
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Post by wmrdgfan on Jun 21, 2014 17:40:03 GMT -8
Yep same here.... just another marketing ploy as far as I,m concerned. They can keep their 4 car sets. Maybe vendors will break sets up. This stuff is getting too expensive anyway. about ready to get out of it after 50 years
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Post by marknycfan on Jun 22, 2014 4:02:34 GMT -8
I know I'm splitting a 4-pack of early PRR cars with a friend, I'm sure everyone else can.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jun 22, 2014 10:00:55 GMT -8
I'm not sure.
Ed
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Post by roadkill on Jun 22, 2014 12:25:58 GMT -8
I'd like one Shadow Keystone car and one in full PC, and that's it. Four pack? I don't think so...
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Post by Spikre on Jun 23, 2014 10:01:52 GMT -8
 Jerry, may have missed a referance to the cars in febuary,or thought it was about the Bowser H30s. but dont recall that anything was posted on the H32s back then. do miss some things from time to time,and was surprised to see both HO and N H32s in the current BLI catolog. if You have been keeping Score,how many Pure PRR cars have been done in plastic of 1920 or later prototypes ? Spikre
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Post by keystonefarm on Jun 23, 2014 11:49:06 GMT -8
Most of the hobby shops I deal with will break up the 4 paks . The cars come in seperate boxes shrink wrapped together so breaking them up is no big deal. Great to have both the H30 and 32 available . Good time to be a PRR modeler. ---- Ken
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Post by roadkill on Jun 23, 2014 16:26:07 GMT -8
if You have been keeping Score,how many Pure PRR cars have been done in plastic of 1920 or later prototypes ? Spikre Not enough!!! We need G41/G41a coil cars, X58 boxcars, the seemingly ubiquitous G43 gondola, and G38 ore jennies, to name a few! |
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Post by Amboy Secondary on Jun 23, 2014 18:17:37 GMT -8
if You have been keeping Score,how many Pure PRR cars have been done in plastic of 1920 or later prototypes ? Spikre Not enough!!! We need G41/G41a coil cars, X58 boxcars, the seemingly ubiquitous G43 gondola, and G38 ore jennies, to name a few! Definitely not enough. My son and I were planning on splitting a 4 pack, Since I model mid 1960s PRR, and he models Conrail, he gets to repaint and reletter, while all I have to do is letter. |
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Post by gmpullman on Jun 23, 2014 23:30:10 GMT -8
if You have been keeping Score,how many Pure PRR cars have been done in plastic of 1920 or later prototypes ? Spikre Not enough!!! We need G41/G41a coil cars, X58 boxcars, the seemingly ubiquitous G43 gondola, and G38 ore jennies, to name a few! Add to roadkill's list a nice RTR F22 flat car! I want to model the AMB 16" Naval gun flat car load but when it comes to building the Funaro & Camerilengo kit I'm all thumbs (especially gluing on the stake pockets!) www.laserkit.com/laserkit.htm www.laserkit.com/images/215Aweb.jpg
Just my 2¢ Ed
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Post by spookyac47 on Jun 24, 2014 21:13:11 GMT -8
From the PRR Modeling Yahoo Group in March . . .
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Offering individual cars. Broadway Limited Pennsylvania Railroad Clas s H32 Covered Hoppers
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hph45@juno.com
Mar 9
Good Evening Group,
After reading the recent posts about the H32 Covered Hopper cars I have decided to offer individual cars pricing as follows.
1 single car $38.95 if you but 2 cars $74.95 , get 3 cars $105.95 .. You can mix and match.. Gray or Freight Car Red.. Circle Keystone, Shadow Keystone, Plain Keystone..
Remember MSRP is $159.95 4 pack so you are still saving money, just not as much!!
This way you can get what you want and no extras you don't want..
Please decide ASAP so I can plan my orders..
Shipping based on your Zip code.. USPS Priority Mail/Insured
Contact info:
Howiesbrasstrains.com
hph45@juno.com
Howard Holland
6229 Ironwood Lane
Tyrone, Pa 16686
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Post by Spikre on Jul 7, 2014 10:56:37 GMT -8
 think BLI is missing that a 4 pack of each PRR scheme would work for some. while a 4 pack of 2 each would work for PC. since these aren't ready yet there is time for BLI to consider some other packing options,or even single cars. they do Singles on some of the other cars. Spikre 
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Post by thommo on Nov 22, 2014 14:31:05 GMT -8
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Post by thommo on Nov 22, 2014 14:36:45 GMT -8
The "MOW gray" BLI used is lighter than Bowser's or Atlas' grey. Pitty the colors are not the same. Also, the details on Bowser's hoppers are somewhat finer, see grabirons, ladders, steps. There are no rivets on the body of the BLI car; by contrast, there are hunderds on the Bowser H30 models. Were the bigger H32's all welded cars?   |
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Post by Partial_List on Nov 22, 2014 15:11:31 GMT -8
Looks like the detail on the Bowser H30 looks a lot better than the BLI H32. And the BLI model is around $15 more in most cases. For example look at the stirrups and grabs. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Matt
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Post by marknycfan on Nov 22, 2014 16:30:21 GMT -8
I'm considering a set of the PRR Oxide cars, either set, does anyone want to split a set with me?
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Post by NS4122 on Nov 22, 2014 17:01:01 GMT -8
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Post by edwardsutorik on Nov 22, 2014 17:23:08 GMT -8
Kinda looks like LBF did it--reminiscent of their woodchip cars.
I might add that, on the prototype, the vertical members on the sides are of two different depths (thicknesses).
I am SO glad I didn't commit for these.
I'm just surprised anyone would release something done at this level. I think I'll wait for the Exactrail one.
Ed
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Post by atsfan on Nov 22, 2014 17:24:27 GMT -8
Is the roofwalk etched metal see thru?
It is hard tell from the pictures.
The end cages look pretty thick, but then maybe so was the prototype.
Some weathering washes would help the car "pop".
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Post by no1detail on Nov 22, 2014 21:11:46 GMT -8
Lombard Hobbies in Lombard Illinois is selling singles of all these cars. Because they were 4 packs they do not have individual part numbers, they will not be available via the website but in person or via a phone order. www.lombardhobby.com or 630 620-1084. Thank you Steven E. Cerka |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Nov 22, 2014 22:15:41 GMT -8
The end cages look pretty thick, but then maybe so was the prototype. Nope. These are just bad models. Ed |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 0:22:48 GMT -8
Way to go BLI, 70's era modeling once again. You guys need to think outside the box for once. Sheesh!
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Post by markfj on Nov 23, 2014 5:53:35 GMT -8
Kinda looks like LBF did it--reminiscent of their woodchip cars. I might add that, on the prototype, the vertical members on the sides are of two different depths (thicknesses). I am SO glad I didn't commit for these. I'm just surprised anyone would release something done at this level. I think I'll wait for the Exactrail one. Ed +1 Are people telling these manufacturers they want more sturdy or “stocky” models; what’s going on here? Those are some might thick cage-end details. At first glance, it looks like an “O” scale model!  Looks like an “ok” model, but not up to the level of a Tangent or Exactrail model. Here is a link to a nice article on the H30/H30a and H32 cars (I’ve posted this before in another thread): PRR H30/H30a & H32 covered hopper carsThanks, Mark |
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Post by tom on Nov 23, 2014 5:59:06 GMT -8
The BLI car is suprisingly rough. The H32 was a welded car so the lack of rivets is correct but the end cages are enormous and the metal grabirons look too thick. The stirrups are so thick they are bizarre. Trucks are...well...interesting.
Some of these details could be corrected but I looked at the Penn Central car and it appears that BLI took a quick look at the photo of the PC H32 in the PC Color Guide and then applied the graphics based on memory. Sort of looks like PC lettering but not correct at all.
This is too bad since I always liked how these low slung cars looked when coupled up to more modern covered hoppers. I am done paying high prices for mediocre models.
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Post by dti406 on Nov 23, 2014 7:11:14 GMT -8
Way to go BLI, 70's era modeling once again. You guys need to think outside the box for once. Sheesh! Sorry but the transition era is still the most wanted era according to all the polls, so these cars are especially wanted by us transition era modelers versus the sameness of modern era trains. I have two of these cars and at the club we noticed two things as related to Bowser's H-30, the lack of shakers on the outlet bays (cars were not originally ordered with them and were applied hit and miss to the cars as time went on), and no grabs on the hatch covers. Although these are a not noticeable in my train of various PRR covered hoppers of various styles. Rick J |
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Post by fmilhaupt on Nov 23, 2014 7:26:00 GMT -8
+1 Are people telling these manufacturers they want more sturdy or “stocky” models; what’s going on here? Those are some might thick cage-end details. At first glance, it looks like an “O” scale model! {snip} Just a hurried thought as I head out the door, but it looks to me like this might be a good use for the nice etched brass end details that came with any Rail Shop, Inc. H30 hybrid kits that may now be sitting abandoned and underappreciated since the Bowser H30 came out. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 9:30:00 GMT -8
Newly arrived Pennsy BLI H32 hoppers.  Clunky. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 9:54:09 GMT -8
Way to go BLI, 70's era modeling once again. You guys need to think outside the box for once. Sheesh! Sorry but the transition era is still the most wanted era according to all the polls, so these cars are especially wanted by us transition era modelers versus the sameness of modern era trains. I have two of these cars and at the club we noticed two things as related to Bowser's H-30, the lack of shakers on the outlet bays (cars were not originally ordered with them and were applied hit and miss to the cars as time went on), and no grabs on the hatch covers. Although these are a not noticeable in my train of various PRR covered hoppers of various styles. Rick J I've conducted a number of surveys that show the "transition era" (1945 - 1960) is no longer the most popular. (There's a tendency for modelers to model the era of their youth, say age 15-25+-. So the "era modeled" cohort advances over the years) Most recently, I conducted a "What Era do you model?" survey here on ARF 8/5/14 to 8/18/14. Respondents piced a single 5-year period. There were 90 respondents. The three periods comprising the 15 years 1945 - 1959 received 12 votes, or 13 percent (There were no votes cast for any period earlier than 1950). The three periods comprising the 15 years 1970 - 1984 received 35 votes, or 39 percent. The five-year period 1970-1974 was the single most popular with 17 votes. 2010 - 2014 received 12 votes. Other, larger sample surveys showed similar results. |
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