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Post by sd80macs on Jul 3, 2014 13:10:32 GMT -8
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Post by buffalobill on Jul 3, 2014 13:17:52 GMT -8
Wow; two of the New Haven will be my first Rapido units. Happy fourth.
Bill
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Post by MONSTERRAILROAD on Jul 3, 2014 13:24:57 GMT -8
I know one member on here who will be super super happy and his name is:
PAUL CUTLER III
Yes he is! He has wanted this damn locomotive forever and now he will finally get it! I TOLD you that the end is nearing for River Point Station and this here is proof. Anywayz! I am actually pleased with it too. I like the FL9 every since I got into one at the Willimantic, CT train museum. I have a bunch of photos of the NH engine too. There is an FL9 sitting in Willimantic right now. They will be able to accurately get all the details and even have the engine laser measured any time. The engine is ready to be inspected. Got that Jason?
Congrats finally Paul!!
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Post by MONSTERRAILROAD on Jul 3, 2014 13:35:25 GMT -8
I will actually buy one of these engines with sound no matter the cost. I am actually interested in this engine. I am intrigued that the engine has three trucks on the rear and two on the front. Plus I got to be inside of one many times. I have to have one running MU'd with a couple of SD70ACe (ONE DAY) when they are released.
To be honest though, I really thought that we were going to be getting an HO scale Statue of Liberty with a lighted torch. Darn!!
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Post by buffalobill on Jul 3, 2014 13:37:54 GMT -8
Robert, they were occasionally used in freight service by the New Haven, in early 1970 a large number of them were transferred to the ex New York Central Hudson and Harlem lines for commuter service, protecting the Poughkeepsie and Brewster trains. They allowed the retirement of the T and P class electric locomotives and reassignment of the ex Central boiler equipped RS-3's. After 1970 they worked the locomotive hauled trains on the Metro Region, covering the Hudson, Harlem, and New Haven Lines. A few were transferred to Amtrak to protect the Grand Central to Albany Empire Service trains. The Penn Central replaced them on the New Haven to Boston line with E-8-A's for the East of New Haven trains.
Never were freight haulers on PC.
Bill
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Post by marknycfan on Jul 3, 2014 13:42:24 GMT -8
I'm in for pair, not that breaks any records but 2 of them will suit me just fine.
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Post by 12bridge on Jul 3, 2014 13:50:32 GMT -8
I wonder what the chances of the rebuilt MN and LIRR Starships (FL9AC) in the future are?
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Post by sd80macs on Jul 3, 2014 14:09:41 GMT -8
I know one member on here who will be super super happy and his name is: PAUL CUTLER III Yes he is! He has wanted this damn locomotive forever and now he will finally get it! I TOLD you that the end is nearing for River Point Station and this here is proof. Anywayz! I am actually pleased with it too. I like the FL9 every since I got into one at the Willimantic, CT train museum. I have a bunch of photos of the NH engine too. There is an FL9 sitting in Willimantic right now. They will be able to accurately get all the details and even have the engine laser measured any time. The engine is ready to be inspected. Got that Jason? Congrats finally Paul!! I remember moving that FL9 from New London to Willi and what a PITA that was, LOL At least it was saved and not scrapped. |
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Post by sd80macs on Jul 3, 2014 14:12:08 GMT -8
I wonder what the chances of the rebuilt MN and LIRR Starships (FL9AC) in the future are? I know this was in their newsletter. "We WILL be producing models of the FL9s as rebuilt for the Connecticut Department of Transportation. Information in these models will follow once we have production-ready samples of the first group of models. Make sure that you subscribe to Rapido News so as not to miss the announcement!" So thats a good sign. |
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Jul 3, 2014 14:26:02 GMT -8
Best of all, having waited so long, it's being done by a manufacturer whose attention to detail is impeccable, which means it will be the definitive FL9.
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Post by TBird1958 on Jul 3, 2014 14:33:44 GMT -8
It's SO COOL! I don't model anything east of Helper, Utah , but the thought of one in McGinnis colors on my desk is pretty appealing!
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Post by buffalobill on Jul 3, 2014 14:39:12 GMT -8
Robert, the units were assigned to the Penn Central's Metrolitan Region, which was passenger only, and directly funded by The Metropolitan Transportation Authority and the Connecticut Department of Transportation. As a result it was hands off for the freight operating regions. Plus with the NON powered axle on the rear truck, they would have not have been particularly good pullers. The SP Trainmasters and SDP's were basically freight units, with steam generators. They were assets in freight service, I am not sure the same could be said of the FL's.
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 14:49:53 GMT -8
I guess River Point Station can fold its tent on the FL9 and let someone that WILL get it out the door do the project.
I looked at the announcement and noticed it only covers the steam generator era.
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Post by sd80macs on Jul 3, 2014 14:53:13 GMT -8
I guess River Point Station can fold its tent on the FL9 and let someone that WILL get it out the door do the project. I looked at the announcement and noticed it only covers the steam generator era. You must have missed the last paragraph, lol. "We WILL be producing models of the FL9s as rebuilt for the Connecticut Department of Transportation. Information in these models will follow once we have production-ready samples of the first group of models. Make sure that you subscribe to Rapido News so as not to miss the announcement!" |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 15:11:51 GMT -8
I guess River Point Station can fold its tent on the FL9 and let someone that WILL get it out the door do the project. I looked at the announcement and noticed it only covers the steam generator era. You must have missed the last paragraph, lol. "We WILL be producing models of the FL9s as rebuilt for the Connecticut Department of Transportation. Information in these models will follow once we have production-ready samples of the first group of models. Make sure that you subscribe to Rapido News so as not to miss the announcement!" Had to click three links to get to the announcement with the information about the HEP era. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 3, 2014 15:26:31 GMT -8
I wouldn't be shocked to find that River Point Station sold their start on the FL9 to Rapido.
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Post by Amboy Secondary on Jul 3, 2014 16:22:36 GMT -8
Great news, I'm in for a couple of PCs in basic PC black. It's about time someone did these.
Joe
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Post by riogrande on Jul 3, 2014 16:28:00 GMT -8
It's SO COOL! I don't model anything east of Helper, Utah , but the thought of one in McGinnis colors on my desk is pretty appealing! Similar situation as you although I extended over the Rockies to Denver - no further east than that. To me, mountains and western is where it's at for modeling. So *whew* I imagine this is only a reprieve for my wallet as Rapido will likely doing an F40PH still. Cheers, Jim |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Jul 3, 2014 16:29:26 GMT -8
Congratulations to Jason, et al, for another home run. Not in MY ball park but plenty of folks will be excited.
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Post by John Sheridan on Jul 3, 2014 17:21:19 GMT -8
Great news, I'm in for a couple of PCs in basic PC black. It's about time someone did these. Joe I'm shocked as to the amount of PC modelers are just as exited about this model. As the New Haven guys. |
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Post by onequiknova on Jul 3, 2014 18:00:49 GMT -8
It's got the right nose, but it's a little too short, and missing an axle for me. Still a really cool anouncment.
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Post by atsfan on Jul 3, 2014 18:07:51 GMT -8
Was this unit that popular in real world?
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Post by Judge Doom on Jul 3, 2014 18:16:56 GMT -8
Was this unit that popular in real world? Yes. It's the last of the latest and greatest EMD F's, and a good number survived quite a long time in commuter service. Their longevity alone makes them quite popular with modelers of different decades, albeit much comes from the east coast (like the U50's and such would be more popular out west). |
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Post by roadkill on Jul 3, 2014 18:42:45 GMT -8
Not to be a pain in the ass or anything... but... when are we going to get P-S lightweights??? Gotta have something for these FL9's to pull, no?
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Post by MONSTERRAILROAD on Jul 3, 2014 18:56:40 GMT -8
HOLD UP HOLD UP HOLD UP!! I just got an email from overland Hobbies and I now see that I just CAN'T buy one of these units. The pricing has hit the $350 MSRP point and I just cannot support that for an engine that is not even in my era or road. So I have decided to kindly step away from that purchase in late 2015. The non sound unit was not any better priced either! It was $249 evn though their price is $216. Here is the detail pricing at Overland Hobbies
Pricing:
FL9, standard DC
Rapido/ MLW MSRP $249.95
Overland Hobbies Pre-order price valid through 2/20/15
Any 1-2 std DC units $216.95/ loco
Any 3+ standard DC units $210.95/ loco
FL9, DCC equipped featuring ESU Loksound
RAPIDO/ MLW MSRP $349.95
Overland Hobbies Pre-order price valid through 2/20/15
Any 1-2 DCC/ sound equipped units $299.95/ loco
Any 3+ DCC/ sound equipped units $291.95/ loco
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Post by drolsen on Jul 3, 2014 20:09:52 GMT -8
I look at Rapido's diesels as a unique type of product - they are selecting prototypes that no one else is likely to touch (with the possible exception of the upcoming F40PH). I'm guessing their runs are smaller than the other major manufacturers, and they are offering pretty unique prototypes that have a die-hard, but small, fan base. But producing quality models of rare prototypes that you're not going to sell in huge numbers (compared to an SD40-2 or GP38-2, for example) isn't going to be cheap. Their pricing seems pretty comparable to Athearn's DD40AX and turbine models - other examples of rare prototypes, but ones that are arguably more popular than the FL9. But if you've been waiting for an FL9 model for most of your life, it's worth it. If you're just looking for another neat diesel to buy, it's probably going to seem pretty expensive.
I myself have been waiting for a high-quality Amtrak F40PH most of my life...
Dave
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Post by Judge Doom on Jul 3, 2014 20:24:42 GMT -8
HOLD UP HOLD UP HOLD UP!! I just got an email from overland Hobbies and I now see that I just CAN'T buy one of these units. The pricing has hit the $350 MSRP point and I just cannot support that for an engine that is not even in my era or road. So I have decided to kindly step away from that purchase in late 2015. The non sound unit was not any better priced either! It was $249 evn though their price is $216. Here is the detail pricing at Overland Hobbies Pricing: FL9, standard DC Rapido/ MLW MSRP $249.95 Overland Hobbies Pre-order price valid through 2/20/15 Any 1-2 std DC units $216.95/ loco Any 3+ standard DC units $210.95/ loco FL9, DCC equipped featuring ESU Loksound RAPIDO/ MLW MSRP $349.95 Overland Hobbies Pre-order price valid through 2/20/15 Any 1-2 DCC/ sound equipped units $299.95/ loco Any 3+ DCC/ sound equipped units $291.95/ loco Gotta pay the cover charge to play I suppose  It's only a matter of time before everyone elses' pricing creeps up to this price point - they're all manufactured in the same place: China. Then again, Rapido has historically gone full-out details wise, so it won't be a generically detailed Intermountain or Atlas model you're spending those dead presidents on.  |
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Post by BEDT26 on Jul 3, 2014 20:49:54 GMT -8
Today is indeed a day to celebrate, in fact we HO Scale modelers should make July 3rd a Holiday !
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Post by stevef45 on Jul 3, 2014 21:26:22 GMT -8
Wonder if they'll do any in the NYC painted scheme that Metro North had besides the NH version and the plain jane grey red and blue version for MN.
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Post by slowfreight on Jul 4, 2014 0:03:51 GMT -8
Was this unit that popular in real world? Yes. It's the last of the latest and greatest EMD F's, and a good number survived quite a long time in commuter service. Their longevity alone makes them quite popular with modelers of different decades, albeit much comes from the east coast (like the U50's and such would be more popular out west). AND, it may have only been bought by one railroad new, but in its second/third/fourth lives the FL9 was a real winner because nothing else could do what it did in the Park Avenue tunnel. Just look at the number of agencies that have owned it over the decades. Alas, I agree with onequicknova that it's about an axle short of my needs. |
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