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Post by stevewagner on Jul 18, 2014 12:01:16 GMT -8
It was posted at www.atlasrr.com by about 2:20 EDT on Friday, July 18. It has taken me an hour and forty minutes to print it in black and white. I've hardly had a chance to glance at it while doing so, but it's now available for everyone to see for themselves. |
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Post by alcoc430 on Jul 18, 2014 12:31:58 GMT -8
let down. Only thing that caught my eye is the conrail RS32 but I already have two that will be patched for cr.
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Post by stevewagner on Jul 18, 2014 13:07:07 GMT -8
The "message from the CEO", by Paul Graf, mentions only two newly tooled car types, both in N scale: the 40' PS-1 boxcar with an 8' door on each side, and the PS-3 open hopper of 2960 cu. ft. capacity.
However, there are a lot of runs that have been announced before that now have estimated arrival times more realistic than those that have been posted for a long time, as well as a number of newly announced paint schemes on locos and cars. HO modelers who like the Delaware & Hudson may be glad to see a GE Dash 8-40B in the Saratoga & North Creek's D&H-like livery. N scale fans of Northeastern lines will be happy about GP7's in the original Boston & Maine livery and ones in Heritage B&M and MEC paint jobs. Also the aforementioned N scale 40' PS-1's with 6' doors, including one in the earliest D&H lettering scheme that such cars wore. Second runs of the HO and N scale Alco S-2 switchers are also announced.
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Post by rails4dmv on Jul 18, 2014 13:46:18 GMT -8
I admit, I was hoping Atlas do another run of Amtrak Dash 8's (Phase IV & Phase IVb) or a GP7 since they go for $$$ on eBay, but I'm glad they are doing more CSX locomotives with the "Tomorrow" graphics.
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Post by grabbem88 on Jul 18, 2014 14:16:05 GMT -8
I agree about more Amtrak.
I love my 8-32bw in those Pepsi colors
And I never got the orange "pumpkin" gp7 so I made my own ...its close but not the real thing as in factory purchase
I would buy an Amtrak mp15 with esu sound since that's what they are mostly doing these days
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Post by Brakie on Jul 18, 2014 14:39:24 GMT -8
I admit, I was hoping Atlas do another run of Amtrak Dash 8's (Phase IV & Phase IVb) or a GP7 since they go for $$$ on eBay, but I'm glad they are doing more CSX locomotives with the "Tomorrow" graphics. Sorry no more GP7s from Atlas..The dies are worn out according to a post by Atlas(Paul Graf I think?). |
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Post by rails4dmv on Jul 18, 2014 14:56:29 GMT -8
I have a Gold Series Amtrak "Pepsi" can and love the colors also. I suspect eventually MTH is going to do a Amtrak Dash 8 since they are doing the Dash 9 in HO.
I do find this suspect about Atlas when it comes to Amtrak releases. Their releases seem to never coincide with other manufacturers releases of Amtrak passenger cars.
By the time the new version of the AEM-7 comes out (middle to late next year with possible delays), those retooled Walthers Amfleets, which would obviously be a perfect compliment to the AEM-7, could possibly be sold out.
Watch the hysteria begin when the AEM-7 comes out on the market but no new Amfleets cars to run with them.
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Post by riogrande on Jul 18, 2014 14:56:29 GMT -8
Well, Athearn Genesis has GP7's cover now don't they?
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Post by rails4dmv on Jul 18, 2014 14:59:29 GMT -8
I admit, I was hoping Atlas do another run of Amtrak Dash 8's (Phase IV & Phase IVb) or a GP7 since they go for $$$ on eBay, but I'm glad they are doing more CSX locomotives with the "Tomorrow" graphics. Sorry no more GP7s from Atlas..The dies are worn out according to a post by Atlas(Paul Graf I think?). That's a shame!! That explains the high prices on eBay. Maybe Athearn or possibly Bachmann will do a run of Amtrak "Pumpkins", since I don't see Walthers doing a Proto release. |
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Post by grabbem88 on Jul 18, 2014 15:17:38 GMT -8
You can fast foward a bit but my "pumpkin" is in there
And I phone's make video's distort lol real wavy
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Post by Brakie on Jul 18, 2014 17:02:24 GMT -8
Well, Athearn Genesis has GP7's cover now don't they? Yes and a far better choice IMHO. We mustn't overlook the older(pre Walthers) LL P2K GP7 since they was better detailed then the Atlas Geep-this was discussed on the old Atlas forum and these old GP7s can still be readily found at shows,the used market and of course on e-Bay.. |
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Post by atsfan on Jul 18, 2014 17:56:07 GMT -8
Nothing new in HO that I see.
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Post by carrman on Jul 18, 2014 18:00:24 GMT -8
More GP40-2's.......
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Post by rails4dmv on Jul 18, 2014 18:22:17 GMT -8
Question, what was the last locomotive model Atlas designed for a brand new release within the last 5-7 years? I honestly don't remember....
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Post by alcoc430 on Jul 18, 2014 18:28:33 GMT -8
Question, what was the last locomotive model Atlas designed for a brand new release within the last 5-7 years? I honestly don't remember.... IIRC They had the two versions of the gensets ( one of which came out year and the genset I 2009) Gp40-2 ( 2008), Gp40-2 ph 2 (2009) and GP40-2Ws (2009), Hh660 (2008), GP39-2 ph2 (2010)w |
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Post by atsfan on Jul 18, 2014 18:47:36 GMT -8
Question, what was the last locomotive model Atlas designed for a brand new release within the last 5-7 years? I honestly don't remember.... Atlas has not done new new HO engines in about 5 years. They are more focused on N and O scale now. |
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Post by rails4dmv on Jul 18, 2014 19:46:31 GMT -8
Safe to say they are staying with what works best for them to keep the doors open. I guess if the Atlas/Branchline heavyweight passenger cars are a success, maybe they will tool up for matching locomotives....I know its a stretch..
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Post by Brakie on Jul 19, 2014 0:14:54 GMT -8
Question, what was the last locomotive model Atlas designed for a brand new release within the last 5-7 years? I honestly don't remember.... Atlas has not done new new HO engines in about 5 years. They are more focused on N and O scale now. Yes,long overdue for the N Scalers..While HO was getting new products the N Scale folks was holding a empty new product bag. As a example the HO coil car had two releases long before N Scalers got theirs--I know this as a hard fact because I was in N Scale during those dry times. |
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Post by ambluco on Jul 19, 2014 5:02:35 GMT -8
Alco S2 was retooled and not an old release. Same model type but new tooling. That's 2014. Question, what was the last locomotive model Atlas designed for a brand new release within the last 5-7 years? I honestly don't remember.... |
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Post by buffalobill on Jul 19, 2014 7:11:59 GMT -8
Unfortunately nothing earth shattering from them now, but give them some time to finally catch up. Ambluco is right the S-2 is a new model, the screw ups from the mid 80's Roco effort were not carried over.
Bill
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Post by riogrande on Jul 19, 2014 7:25:25 GMT -8
It's hard to see Atlas getting left in the dust (in the HO market) - announcements of nice new models continue to come from Athearn, Exactrail, Tangent, Fox Valley, und so weite. I do hope Atlas is able to pull out of this lull. They were leaders in HO since they began the line of HO rolling freight cars in the 1990's and loco's before that.
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Post by grabbem88 on Jul 19, 2014 7:48:51 GMT -8
I wonder if somebody would ever do an Amtrak gp40tc?
Now that would be a cool engine!
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Post by rails4dmv on Jul 19, 2014 8:07:51 GMT -8
I wonder if somebody would ever do an Amtrak gp40tc? Now that would be a cool engine! Agreed, and it wouldn't take much upgrade since they've already done the Amtrak GP40 in the Master series. |
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Post by Brakie on Jul 19, 2014 8:07:59 GMT -8
It's hard to see Atlas getting left in the dust - announcements of nice new models continue to come from Athearn, Exactrail, Tangent, Fox Valley, und so weite. I do hope Atlas is able to pull out of this lull. They were leaders in HO since they began the line of HO rolling freight cars in the 1990's and loco's before that. Jim,Just because Atlas has slowed down in HO so they can catch up in N and O Scale is no sign they're still not the leader or being "left in the dust".. N Scalers went several years without a new locomotive. The last being the GP15-1 back in 2008.Newest is the ALCO S2 that was announced in Dec of last year. HO received several new items during that time frame while N Scalers held a empty new product bag.. I would rather see Atlas go slow and get things done right instead of rushing new products out the door that may have QA/QC problems which will lead to more sour QA/QC topics. |
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Post by grabbem88 on Jul 19, 2014 8:16:52 GMT -8
I wonder if somebody would ever do an Amtrak gp40tc? Now that would be a cool engine! Agreed, and it wouldn't take much upgrade since they've already done the Amtrak GP40 in the Master series. If atlas do all the correct lighting and esu sound I'd be all other it |
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Post by rails4dmv on Jul 19, 2014 8:34:16 GMT -8
It's hard to see Atlas getting left in the dust - announcements of nice new models continue to come from Athearn, Exactrail, Tangent, Fox Valley, und so weite. I do hope Atlas is able to pull out of this lull. They were leaders in HO since they began the line of HO rolling freight cars in the 1990's and loco's before that. Jim,Just because Atlas has slowed down in HO so they can catch up in N and O Scale is no sign they're still not the leader or being "left in the dust".. N Scalers went several years without a new locomotive. The last being the GP15-1 back in 2008.Newest is the ALCO S2 that was announced in Dec of last year. HO received several new items during that time frame while N Scalers held a empty new product bag.. I would rather see Atlas go slow and get things done right instead of rushing new products out the door that may have QA/QC problems which will lead to more sour QA/QC topics. I agree let Atlas get it right! As I can attest to the many QA/QC problems I've had with Athearn locomotives compared to Atlas. I've purchased 5 brand new Athearn locomotives within the last year and had burnt out bulbs, broken handrails, and missing road numbers on 2. Compared to 7 Atlas locomotives, I've purchased in the same time frame, I only had one brand new locomotive that was missing a front coupler. Peddler, does the lack of new HO locomotive releases have anything to do with the lack of HO track? Maybe the sales of track product is affecting locomotive product development? Or is it just the China issue that caught up with them? |
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Post by riogrande on Jul 19, 2014 8:46:31 GMT -8
It's hard to see Atlas getting left in the dust (in the HO market) - announcements of nice new models continue to come from Athearn, Exactrail, Tangent, Fox Valley, und so weite. I do hope Atlas is able to pull out of this lull. They were leaders in HO since they began the line of HO rolling freight cars in the 1990's and loco's before that. Jim,Just because Atlas has slowed down in HO so they can catch up in N and O Scale is no sign they're still not the leader or being "left in the dust".. N Scalers went several years without a new locomotive. The last being the GP15-1 back in 2008.Newest is the ALCO S2 that was announced in Dec of last year. HO received several new items during that time frame while N Scalers held a empty new product bag.. I would rather see Atlas go slow and get things done right instead of rushing new products out the door that may have QA/QC problems which will lead to more sour QA/QC topics. I edited my post to make it more clear - apologies, I assumed this being an HO section my comments would be taken to apply to Atlas HO. Honestly I have no clue as to what Atlas is doing in other scales as I don't follow N or O. The up side for me is that there is less pressure on my hobby budget - it's bad enough with Athearn, Genesis, Moloco, ExactRail etc. rolling out nice stuff I would like to get. |
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Post by carrman on Jul 19, 2014 9:00:52 GMT -8
It's hard to see Atlas getting left in the dust - announcements of nice new models continue to come from Athearn, Exactrail, Tangent, Fox Valley, und so weite. I do hope Atlas is able to pull out of this lull. They were leaders in HO since they began the line of HO rolling freight cars in the 1990's and loco's before that. Jim,Just because Atlas has slowed down in HO so they can catch up in N and O Scale is no sign they're still not the leader or being "left in the dust".. N Scalers went several years without a new locomotive. The last being the GP15-1 back in 2008.Newest is the ALCO S2 that was announced in Dec of last year. HO received several new items during that time frame while N Scalers held a empty new product bag.. I would rather see Atlas go slow and get things done right instead of rushing new products out the door that may have QA/QC problems which will lead to more sour QA/QC topics. Sure looks to me like Atlas is trailing the pack. Dave |
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Post by Brakie on Jul 19, 2014 9:47:03 GMT -8
Jim,Just because Atlas has slowed down in HO so they can catch up in N and O Scale is no sign they're still not the leader or being "left in the dust".. N Scalers went several years without a new locomotive. The last being the GP15-1 back in 2008.Newest is the ALCO S2 that was announced in Dec of last year. HO received several new items during that time frame while N Scalers held a empty new product bag.. I would rather see Atlas go slow and get things done right instead of rushing new products out the door that may have QA/QC problems which will lead to more sour QA/QC topics. I edited my post to make it more clear - apologies, I assumed this being an HO section my comments would be taken to apply to Atlas HO. Honestly I have no clue as to what Atlas is doing in other scales as I don't follow N or O. The up side for me is that there is less pressure on my hobby budget - it's bad enough with Athearn, Genesis, Moloco, ExactRail etc. rolling out nice stuff I would like to get. Jim,I threw in the N Scale comment to let you know Atlas has ran other scales dry..HO was tops now it seems its N Scale and O scale turn for new stuff..Sounds fair to me. Not to worry..The fall announcements will be out and as you recall from the Atlas forum Atlas policy is neither to confirm, deny or even hint at a new product until its time.. |
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Post by riogrande on Jul 19, 2014 9:53:03 GMT -8
I know Atlas does N and O of course, but don't follow them much at all. If I were, I be in the N and O scale topic area's reading and posting more.
In my earlier post, I was just lamenting how Atlas HO is fallen way behind the competitor brands. That being said, I do hope they recover as Atlas has generally been recognized in the past as a leader in quality. For now, it is what it is.
Jim
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