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Post by riogrande on Feb 26, 2015 7:12:33 GMT -8
That seems to be the consensus - partly based on the polls Athearn did a couple years ago, and perhaps some vague feedback from reps. Maybe some have inside knowledge too but aren't able to specifically say anything other than "it's going to happen".
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Post by nightmare0331 on Feb 26, 2015 7:13:13 GMT -8
Maybe they will jump on the SD70ACe bandwagon. Not a chance. Of course, if one was feeling feisty, they could take a Kato 956010 motor and retrofit it into an Athearn Genesis SD70ACe... Sorry...no SDP40F's in HO scale as cool as that would be. I'd put myself down for a Maersk unit just because if that was the case. Enjoy! Kelley.
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Post by carrman on Feb 26, 2015 8:29:26 GMT -8
The SDP40F IS going to be a reality, and it sure isn't coming from Kato or IM. Dave Athearn? It will be of a "Genesis" quality. All I'm saying. Dave
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Post by Great-Northern-Willmar Div on Feb 26, 2015 8:35:26 GMT -8
It will be of a "Genesis" quality. All I'm saying. Dave Flat, pointed or both?
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Post by bnsf971 on Feb 26, 2015 9:45:56 GMT -8
Of course, if one was feeling feisty, they could take a Kato 956010 motor and retrofit it into an Athearn Genesis SD70ACe... Kelley. I have done that ith the Bowser Centuries with the Wimpmaster 2000 motor. It did make a huge improvement in performance.
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Post by Spikre on Feb 26, 2015 11:05:32 GMT -8
James, do You need to model every loco You rode behind ? if a pair of SDP40Fs are needed wont Brass or Resin Models work ? do they even need to be Powered ? would need well over 1000 locos here if every loco that pulled a train I was on was needed here. then does each RS-2/3,PA,E8,U34CH and GP7 used in the EL commuter zone get modeled each time they were ridden behind ? that would add even more locos to those encountered only once. well its Your Railroad,wait for the Genesis SDP40F !! Spikre
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Post by bnsf971 on Feb 26, 2015 12:34:27 GMT -8
As for collecting engines interacted with, my list would be a much more select list if I only got the ones I rode in the cab or operated. But everyone's tastes are different, and everybody has different likes and goals. If not, we'd all be modeling Union Pacific and driving white Chevrolets.
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Post by riogrande on Feb 26, 2015 13:59:02 GMT -8
The SDP40F holds a special place in my memory as that was my first trains ride alone as a teenager. I've always wanted a pair of those models since then. Since I'm not rich, brass won't work and since I'm not a "real modeler" and I have too many other things on my to-do list, I'm not going resin. I'd just rather wait for that "Genesis quality SDP40F, if you don't mind! Since I've "poked the bear" with wanting models of trains I road behind, I also road Amtraks California Zephyr, this time thru the Rockies in 1990 on a trip from Chicago to Sacramento. I had my copy of Zephyrs through the Rockies with me on that trip! Four F40PH's pulled my west bound train which had 17 cars and 2 diners! I don't recall the road numbers but ... the return trip our train was piloted by D&RGW GP40-2 #3113 - yes, I wanted to have a model of that GP40-2. As it happens I purchased a RGM&HS unnumbered Atlas D&RGW GP40-2 with plans to number it, you guessed it 3113! As you said, it's my RR!
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Post by Spikre on Feb 26, 2015 16:28:52 GMT -8
James, am mainly just funning You !! but am noting the Request for a Genesis SDP40F. and we'll see if it happens in the near Future ?? You may find the 70s Brass SDP40Fs to be somewhat cheap, were they by NJ Custom Brass ,or Gem ? built by KMT with the Grinder Drives. will skip the Kaslo resin SDP40F,some have horror stories about building them. now cant recall if any "Mud Missles" were ridden behind, but did ride behind the "Pooches" several times. have no urge to model them. wanted to ride behind the F40Cs,but didn't have enuff time when in Chicago to accomplish that. did ride behind GO F40s,and those weird NJ Transit M-K bashed GP40 whatevers. Spikre
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Post by Great-Northern-Willmar Div on Feb 26, 2015 17:08:56 GMT -8
James, am mainly just funning You !! but am noting the Request for a Genesis SDP40F. and we'll see if it happens in the near Future ?? You may find the 70s Brass SDP40Fs to be somewhat cheap, were they by NJ Custom Brass ,or Gem ? built by KMT with the Grinder Drives. will skip the Kaslo resin SDP40F,some have horror stories about building them. now cant recall if any "Mud Missles" were ridden behind, but did ride behind the "Pooches" several times. have no urge to model them. wanted to ride behind the F40Cs,but didn't have enuff time when in Chicago to accomplish that. did ride behind GO F40s,and those weird NJ Transit M-K bashed GP40 whatevers. Spikre Kaslo shell Doesn't look to shabby to me
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Post by Spikre on Feb 26, 2015 17:20:40 GMT -8
Jim, can recall some had warped shells,or shells with sinks in them. think there were several threads on Atlas at least a decade or so ago. think Kaslo would replace some shells,but going by old memories here. Spikre
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Post by atsfan on Feb 26, 2015 17:23:08 GMT -8
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Post by atsfan on Feb 26, 2015 17:29:01 GMT -8
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Post by scl1234 on Feb 27, 2015 6:35:57 GMT -8
... I have too many other things on my to-do list, I'm not going resin. I'd just rather wait for that "Genesis quality SDP40F", ... I'm pretty much in the same boat. For those Amtrak historians: Wasn't the EMD SDP40F the final "new" locomotive to wear Amtrak Phase I paint? I know the F40PH's and P42's never got a Phase I paint job.
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Post by riogrande on Feb 27, 2015 8:02:18 GMT -8
James, am mainly just funning You !! but am noting the Request for a Genesis SDP40F. and we'll see if it happens in the near Future ?? You may find the 70s Brass SDP40Fs to be somewhat cheap, Spikre No worries - I was never good at mind reading! Need to practice more. [waves hand over forehead] I've seen brass from the 70's and 80's, and much of it looks crude by todays standards true. Anyway, I won't be surprised if/when the SDP40F's are finally announced. Hopefully in the next year.
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Post by rails4dmv on Feb 27, 2015 9:03:16 GMT -8
I can't wait to hear Athearn's explanation for producing a Genesis quality SDP40F versus upgrading the P42 to the Genesis line, which modellers has been hammering them to do for years.
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Post by riogrande on Feb 27, 2015 10:05:01 GMT -8
Does it really matter? Each locomotive stands on it's own and doesn't have to be tie to another.
And hasn't Athearn offered upgraded the P42/AMD103 or whatever it is? I bought the original blue box kit version back in the day and detail-wise it seemed pretty decent - had some nice detail parts in the kit. After a few years I decided I didn't like the 1990's anymore so I sold mine but I have seen newer versions produced since the BB version and assumed Athearn had upgraded the blue box version or the RTR version was improved. Is it not improved enough?
Anyway, I'm always glad when Athearn offers new locomotives that I want - although my wallet isn't!
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Post by railthunder on Feb 28, 2015 0:02:34 GMT -8
It will be of a "Genesis" quality. All I'm saying. Dave Flat, pointed or both? If the rumor is true I hope it is for both the pointed nose and flat nose. I will definitely be ordering a few.
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Post by riogrande on Feb 28, 2015 6:47:10 GMT -8
If the rumor is true I hope it is for both the pointed nose and flat nose. I will definitely be ordering a few. If it is a Genesis made loco, with the modular tooling (as they do these days), then a sensible option would be several different noses so they could to the two Amtrak versions as well as Santa Fe (post Amtrak) versions. That would maximize the sales potential.
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Post by Spikre on Feb 28, 2015 14:00:15 GMT -8
still think with the Passenger Cars they can offer,Wathers is really out to lunch if they never do an SDP40F. just think of all the "Rainbow" trains they could offer and be mostly Prototypically Correct. what can Gensis offer ?? just one SP Coach that didn't make it to Amtrak ? Athearn Shorties from 1955 ? the SDP40F really doesn't fit into the Genesis Freight oriented offerings. well the few rebuilt ex-Santa Fe SDP40Fs might,but that is still a very limited prototype. Spikre
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