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Post by jaygee on May 21, 2015 15:42:30 GMT -8
The new Main-Line series of Walther's Budd passengers is out. They offer at this point a Wabash combine, and three NYCS cars....a Valley 10-6 sleeper, an assymetrical diner, and a 2900 series coach. These are not detailed as fully as the 920 series cars, but are dimpled so the detail appliances can be added when they get released. The roofs come off in the same manner as the previous cars, and full interiors are provided. Trucks are molded Delrin with talgo coupler mountings, which can be replaced with Frame mounted draft gear. My impression is good thus far, and part of that is based on the use of NYCS prototypes for three of the four cars. The significant item here is the use of prewar style vestibule openings on the post war cars. Sure hoping to see a few more cars added to this series, like a #48 series tavern lounge obs. car.....or maybe even a Brook series 5 DBR Obs. One can always hope for a Bedroom lounge car too, from the stream series. Next stop; Ohio State LTD. Pacemaker, or New England States ! These new goodies will give my Hudson, and P motor something to do...no doubt !
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 16:53:35 GMT -8
I've had my eye on them for a while, mostly because of the price point, and the fact that I just don't care to spend 3x the money for added details. What has me on the fence though, are the talgo couplers and the fact that they don't have all of the cars I want yet - and I don't want to start buying a set if they don't come out with all of the cars I'd like.
And while I'm on the topic, holy detail batman! I found a detail part a few months ago and just yesterday realized where it came from - an MTH passenger can that I've run all of once. I'm all for details, but I want details that don't fall off so easily I'm afraid to touch a model!
/rant
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Post by SCL618 on May 21, 2015 19:44:50 GMT -8
I got my Budd built 10-6 sleeper today and think its an affordable alternative of a unique prototype. With some work, they will be on the same level as the mid-level cars of a few years ago before the plating rage took hold. They are obviously priced and detailed to a broader market, but with provisions to make them a more credible scale model if you order both detail kits. Still with the price of the car and included details, they price out less than non-lighted Proto series cars. I disassembled it completely in less than 5 minutes and then promptly dunked it into a vat of 91% Isopropyl Alcohol to strip the paint. The silver paint is nicely applied to the factory finished cars, and after some scrubbing, I've located bare styrene which will prime nicely. The short list of druthers on these cars is the molded on detail below the car, but I'm prepared to remove and replace it as needed. I've contacted American Model Builders in hopes of learning if existing glass kits can be used on these new cars or if new sets will be offered. For what you pay for, I think these are a great addition and hopefully more cars are in the works, such as a Nancy Hanks, Everglades, and Palmetto. One can have dreams....
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Post by antoniofp45 on May 22, 2015 2:02:05 GMT -8
There has been a lot of active discussion on the Yahoo PCL forum and Yahoo ACL-SAL-SCL forum regarding these units and their "Pros and Cons". I was very surprised to find out that, ironically for southeastern modelers, a few of the cars are actually correct for the Seaboard Airline and Seaboard Coast Line.
The "hot button" discussion points include:
1. Ease/Difficulty of roof removal. Walthers posted a video on how to remove the roof, however, some modelers reportedly are upset that some roofs seemed to be jammed tight.
2. 1970s styled Con Cor "throwback" glazing. Windows are not flush-mounted as are the Walthers Protos and Rivarossi streamliners. There is a solid clear plastic plate on each side.
3. Talgo Trucks. Although a turn-off for some modelers, they are plastic and reportedly roll well.
Not fair for me to make a judgment call on these units until I have them in my hands.
I plan on getting two, possibly three unlettered units. They'll be paint stripped in the usual 91% iso-alcohol bath and given the Alclad2 treatment.
Gotta have that stainless steel!
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Post by drolsen on May 22, 2015 5:02:28 GMT -8
I plan on getting two, possibly three unlettered units. They'll be paint stripped in the usual 91% iso-alcohol bath and given the Alclad2 treatment. You know they produced undecorated cars in this run? I end up having I strip Walthers cars to model Amtrak though, because they don't offer the HEP underframes in the undecorated versions, only the as-built steam heat underbody. I've picked up Amtrak Phase II and later models to strip and repainted with Alclad. Haven't gotten to the point t of painting any yet though... Dave |
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Post by Amboy Secondary on May 22, 2015 12:04:53 GMT -8
I was seriously considering the purchase of the NYC prototype cars, but have held back because I really don't need them.
For what it's worth, the cars fill a void - that they can take the 20" - 22" - 24" radius curves on many home layouts, and they can be modified/upgraded to meet the standards of the Prototype Modelers, if one desires to up grade them. Another favorable point is the price point, which is a important point with many model railroaders.
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Post by antoniofp45 on May 24, 2015 17:20:14 GMT -8
Jim, I'm surprised that you don't seem to be considering filming a review on these units. I enjoy watching your YouTube vids. Like Al, you present your observations and relevant information in a straightforward, no-nonsense manner. A friend of mine just received a Mainline unit in the mail. He stated on a forum that he's been having a very hard time removing the roof. I'll call him in a day or so and if he's still hasn't removed it, I'll offer to stop by his place and give him a hand with it. I was seriously considering the purchase of the NYC prototype cars, but have held back because I really don't need them. For what it's worth, the cars fill a void - that they can take the 20" - 22" - 24" radius curves on many home layouts, and they can be modified/upgraded to meet the standards of the Prototype Modelers, if one desires to up grade them. Another favorable point is the price point, which is a important point with many model railroaders. |
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