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Post by kcjones on May 22, 2015 14:45:43 GMT -8
Everything looks good this time around. SD40-2 with sound and 60' ext. post boxcars with rotating caps. I might spring for one of the MKT units with sound.
JL
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Post by kcjones on May 22, 2015 14:53:00 GMT -8
Oops.. My bad. Should be 50' ext. post boxcars. Btw.. Is that IC as in Ill. Cen. Or a misprint. Can't tell on my phone.
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Post by atsfan on May 22, 2015 14:55:59 GMT -8
Everything looks good this time around. SD40-2 with sound and 60' ext. post boxcars with rotating caps. I might spring for one of the MKT units with sound. JL Link please ? |
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Post by riogrande on May 22, 2015 15:09:32 GMT -8
Here I googled it; www.athearn.com/Articles/Hobbywire.aspxLooks like Athearn is re-offering a lot of the PC&F box cars I already have plus a couple new road names. Am I reading it right, $26 for the old blue box 40' trailer with a new paint job? |
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Post by atsfan on May 22, 2015 17:01:54 GMT -8
Here I googled it; www.athearn.com/Articles/Hobbywire.aspxLooks like Athearn is re-offering a lot of the PC&F box cars I already have plus a couple new road names. Am I reading it right, $26 for the old blue box 40' trailer with a new paint job? Thanks Ii didn't have working search engine were I was. |
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Post by packer on May 24, 2015 11:37:29 GMT -8
I'm curious how well the "upgraded" chassis for the SD40-2 works. For some reason, the latest ones seem to run worse than the oldest ones (before they started adding MUs and the like)
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Post by marknycfan on May 25, 2015 3:59:24 GMT -8
I might get a tank car or two, hard to believe I paid $2.50 for them as kits at one time...well it was 1978!
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Post by Brakie on May 25, 2015 4:08:53 GMT -8
I might get a tank car or two, hard to believe I paid $2.50 for them as kits at one time...well it was 1978! Yuuup! I paid $1.49 for that tank car in the 60s. |
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Post by Paul Cutler III on May 25, 2015 8:02:30 GMT -8
And my parents paid $16,000 for their house (a Cape) back in 1969.
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Post by riogrande on May 25, 2015 10:37:24 GMT -8
Yes, citing costs from the cretaceous era is kind of nostalgic I know, but not really relevant to the present.
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Post by NCC42768 on May 25, 2015 11:11:32 GMT -8
I'm curious how well the "upgraded" chassis for the SD40-2 works. For some reason, the latest ones seem to run worse than the oldest ones (before they started adding MUs and the like) Last one I bought was the CR Quality release---and it runs horribly. Thinking about one of those new CNW or MKT, but not if they run like that... |
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Post by marknycfan on May 25, 2015 12:47:56 GMT -8
And my parents paid $16,000 for their house (a Cape) back in 1969. And I remember my mom complaining when gas went up past $.329 a gallon, she couldn't get 3 gallons per dollar anymore! |
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Post by rockisland652 on May 26, 2015 11:22:15 GMT -8
Athearn keeps delaying the RI FP-7's. That only keeps the funds in my account longer I guess...
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Post by Great-Northern-Willmar Div on May 26, 2015 12:23:11 GMT -8
My only shock was the $24.98 list for one 40' TOFC trailer. I'm not very familiar with this RTR trailer. Is it the old blue box, former A-Line or new tooling? I've never looked up close at the Athearn RTR trailer so I don't know the real level of detail. The prices for the RTR SD40-2's looked good even with sound. I liked the BN Bicentennial and would consider buying one of those models. The MKT version even has the single chime tooter by the last radiator fan. As someone that has painted an MKT unit with the stripes, even if the Athearn model was not fully detailed it would be a good starting point to add some parts and paint to match.
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Post by atsfan on May 26, 2015 12:58:06 GMT -8
I have reconciled with the prices.
They are what they are I guess.
I have adjusted and buy less if it is something that really interests me.
I am curious what the new SD40-2 with sound will be like. You can add in the Genesis motor kit so
that makes it 2 steps closer to a Genesis engine.
What I don't get is the year + wait time until the products are in hand. I simply don't have time to think about them for a year or remember. For that matter lets hope we all are alive in a year! I just heard of someone I know who did not make it through "routine" out patient surgery............
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Post by riogrande on May 26, 2015 13:57:10 GMT -8
Jim, from what I can tell (looking at the side sills where the landing gear are) it looks like the old blue box 40' trailers from Athearn. So yes, quite a shock they are charging $25.98 for a "razor sharp paint job" those old blue box trailers. It is certainly a STRONG incentive to hunt down old stock as IMO they are not worth it when you can find them for less than half that for a pair! The A-line trailers are more accurate at least for more prototypes - I think that Athearn blue box trailers are really limited on what they matched - what a few PFE trailers?
With Athearn it's not all bad news. Some of their reruns are decent prices - they seem to be holding the line on somethings while other things are a bit crazy. Pick and choose what is worth it. You can hunt down older stock on the stuff.
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Post by snootie3257 on May 26, 2015 15:30:50 GMT -8
My only shock was the $24.98 list for one 40' TOFC trailer. The description states 2 trailers per package with new numbers for $24.98. Steve |
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Post by riogrande on May 26, 2015 17:01:50 GMT -8
My only shock was the $24.98 list for one 40' TOFC trailer. The description states 2 trailers per package with new numbers for $24.98. Steve Minor detail, the description quotes the price at "Retail Price: $25.98" not $24.98 as both repeated. I think Jim and I both mistakenly assumed Athearn was going to switch to singles here like they did with the Fruehaufs. ALL of the past offerings of 40' Fruehauf trailers were 2-packs so when they announced them the last time I assumed they were also 2-packs for $26, but they were singles, so yeah, shocking price there. |
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Post by Great-Northern-Willmar Div on May 26, 2015 18:43:26 GMT -8
The description states 2 trailers per package with new numbers for $24.98. Steve Minor detail, the description quotes the price at "Retail Price: $25.98" not $24.98 as both repeated. I think Jim and I both mistakenly assumed Athearn was going to switch to singles here like they did with the Fruehaufs. ALL of the past offerings of 40' Fruehauf trailers were 2-packs so when they announced them the last time I assumed they were also 2-packs for $26, but they were singles, so yeah, shocking price there. Athearn states two trailers per package but you get two of the same road number? That doesn't make sense. I opened the PDF for the announcement which lists one road number per sku and says nothing about two trailers per package. I'm confused and e-mailed Athearn. |
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Post by riogrande on May 27, 2015 5:31:48 GMT -8
Athearn states two trailers per package but you get two of the same road number? That doesn't make sense. I opened the PDF for the announcement which lists one road number per sku and says nothing about two trailers per package. I'm confused and e-mailed Athearn. As a general rule I avoid the old Athearn 40' blue box trailers since they match very few real trailers at all - as far as I can tell they are like 95% foobies and only worth having in a generic sense. It's extremely difficult to find photo's of any trailer that actually match them. I have a few of the Athearn 40' trailers at home but if I were to spend any money on them, it would only be on past runs, if at all. I really like the Fruehaufs the best and it's a shame Athearn is only offering singles for $26 - which is insane - they were already getting quite expensive at $24/25 for a pair, and then to basically more than double the price by only offering one? Huh? I've been waiting for Athearn to offer more 45' foot Fruehaufs but now with this new prices scheme where a single costs $26 I'm not so sure. |
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Post by atsfan on May 27, 2015 6:47:23 GMT -8
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Post by atsfan on May 27, 2015 6:48:37 GMT -8
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Post by atsfan on May 27, 2015 6:50:20 GMT -8
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Post by riogrande on May 27, 2015 8:46:53 GMT -8
The first link yes appears from the graphic to be the blue box trailer with fancy paint jobs - very hard to match to real trailers. If you want this model it would be cheaper to find old releases at train shows at fractional prices.
The second link looks like the blue box 45' trailer, from what I recall not an exact copy of any specific prototype according to articles I've read but looks generically like a Fruehauf from the front anyway. Whether it's worth the price for a nice paint job is your call - especially for a single! I have a few of them from old blue box runs, but couldn't bring myself to spend that kind of money on one of the singles of the newer runs. I focused all my money on the A-line tooling versions exclusively, which is the subject of the 3rd link.
The third link, btw is a re-issue of the upgraded A-line UP Flag Fruehauf 40' trailer - with some diligent searching you may be able to find the two pack for significantly less money. Those are nice btw.
During the past 5 or 6 years I've been hunting down and buying Athearn upgraded A-line tooled 40 and 45' trailers for TOFC trains as it's been one on of my goals to build TOFC trains; thankfully I've managed to build up a decent fleet of trailers - a few more wouldn't hurt
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Post by Spikre on May 27, 2015 10:17:59 GMT -8
 link says that RTR PRR 202022 is a single trailer at $25.98. but just saw the Bachman 35' ribbed trailer and 50' Flat car for $48.98. didn't see a 2 pack of just the Bachman trailers,so not sure what they list at ? Trailers aint going cheap no more !! Spikre 
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Post by riogrande on May 27, 2015 10:52:52 GMT -8
Yeah Bob, I don't know what it is about the trailers and why those in particular are spiking so much!
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Post by peoriaman on May 27, 2015 11:06:00 GMT -8
Yeah Bob, I don't know what it is about the trailers and why those in particular are spiking so much! Its enough to make me want to model one of those Milwaukee Road "Sprint" trains.... The ones where most of the flatcars ran empty! |
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Post by riogrande on May 27, 2015 11:25:29 GMT -8
Yeah Bob, I don't know what it is about the trailers and why those in particular are spiking so much! Its enough to make me want to model one of those Milwaukee Road "Sprint" trains.... The ones where most of the flatcars ran empty! Right now that is literally my problem with the open autoracks I have. One of the things I have noticed in my model collecting is I go through some phases - piggy backs, coal trains, reefers, bulkhead flat cars, sometimes some types of loads, at some point I'm going to have to clear schedule and budget etc. and start seeing if I can get some 1970's vans or trucks or auto's together - it's one of those things thats always been "out there" but starting to percolate up to the top. Or is that one of those, "abandon all hope" type of things? |
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Post by Great-Northern-Willmar Div on May 27, 2015 16:50:47 GMT -8
Received a response from Athearn it is only ONE trailer per package at $25.98 MSRP for each trailer.
The Athearn response:
"Thank-you for your inquiry. Please note that there is one trailer per
package.
Sincerely,
Athearn Trains"
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Post by kcjones on May 27, 2015 17:07:16 GMT -8
Ouch! That's too rich for my blood. Besides, after 6 days on the road and going over Wolf Creek Pass that razor sharp printing would be beat all to hell anyway. If the "new" ad40-2s run as bad as I've read, I'll keep my last run MKTs and drop in a tsunami as planned.
JL
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