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Post by PennCentral on Aug 22, 2015 20:11:05 GMT -8
We're about three months away from ScaleTrains making their first announcements. What's your BEST GUESS of the locomotive(s) they announce in the first year?
Here's mine:
SD39
SD60E
SD40-2 (the ultimate SD40-2, kind of like the ultimate SD45-2 that someone tooled for Athearn)
My freight car guesses:
Carbon Black covered hopper
Pullman Standard 4-bay pellet hopper
modern oil tank car
And for Spikre, I hope they tool a black tank car.
Jason Cook
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Post by rockfan on Aug 22, 2015 20:39:56 GMT -8
Everyone knows you have to have an F7 doesn't matter that there are plenty of them out there already.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2015 20:58:57 GMT -8
It will be a GEVO, F-7, SD-70Ace, Big Boy, or any other model that has been over produced, just because the info and specs are easy to get and are cheap. Most companies lack imagination to build anything new, they just follow the herd.
And when they do release the model, they re release the model over and over, changing the numbers, and when that runs it's course, they go to "fantasy" schemes and beat those to death!
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Aug 22, 2015 21:32:51 GMT -8
My "best guess" is that "locomotive" will mean "diesel," and that they will trump Athearn with an SDP40F, which means we may wind up with two of them. What I really want is something more vintage -- a really well done EMD switcher, perhaps even one of the models that could be done cow & calf. Or a Lima switcher.
In terms of freight car, "best guess" is a fairly modern pressure-differential covered hopper. What I really want is the original NYC Flexi-Flo hopper.
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Post by routerock on Aug 23, 2015 5:16:24 GMT -8
the only thing that I'm missing from my roster are the SDF40F and the U33B from Atlas (sometime before I die please?) Bowsers has announced the C415 and re-tooled U25B and a after market Flex trucks for the Proto SW.
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Post by navarch1 on Aug 23, 2015 5:45:46 GMT -8
Updated plastic, high quality U-Boats from 25B to C36. Plastic, high quality U33B's so I do not have to buy Atlas shells to kitbash them  Seriously, a quality U-boat series would be quite welcome, as would M-420's. In plastic, quality, freight cars - a modern carbon-black hopper, some specialized modern tank cars, a CN "modern" transfer caboose, a bit higher quality International wide vision caboose perhaps? Bob |
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Post by rockfan on Aug 23, 2015 6:08:27 GMT -8
If I were starting a company and had three locomotives coming out I would do an SD-40-2, tons of paint jobs and different versions to do later on like long nose etc. SD-39-2 and GP-39-2. All EMD to keep the tooling costs low. And I don't think anyone has done the '39's in plastic. What are they going to make? Keep the guessing going on.
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Post by emd16645 on Aug 23, 2015 6:19:18 GMT -8
If I were starting a company and had three locomotives coming out I would do an SD-40-2, tons of paint jobs and different versions to do later on like long nose etc. SD-39-2 and GP-39-2. All EMD to keep the tooling costs low. And I don't think anyone has done the '39's in plastic. What are they going to make? Keep the guessing going on. There is an Atlas Trainman GP39-2 model. There has not been a SD39-2, nor will there ever be. The total EMD production run of the SD39-2 = 0. On the other hand, a straight SD39 would be welcome. |
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Post by rockfan on Aug 23, 2015 6:26:31 GMT -8
My mistake I thought there was a 39-2. So make that a SD39
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Post by mrsocal on Aug 23, 2015 6:29:55 GMT -8
For me it is not so much what it is but more so.... How well are the details.
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Post by D Bradley on Aug 23, 2015 6:45:27 GMT -8
Imma say the Tier 4 Gevos.
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Post by peoriaman on Aug 23, 2015 7:31:38 GMT -8
If I were starting a company and had three locomotives coming out I would do an SD-40-2, tons of paint jobs and different versions to do later on like long nose etc. Tempting, but with four (?) manufacturers already making the SD40-2, and a fifth coming soon (Bowser), even the most perfect SD40-2 is going to find the market already saturated. Sure, they'd sell a few, but the other 95% of modelers who are satisfied with Athearn, Kato, Intermountain, etc won't even give them a second glance. Its a Catch 22: None of the existing SD40-2s are perfect but its all those existing SD40-2s people own already that will keep a perfect one from ever being made. At least not for a very long time. |
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Post by rockfan on Aug 23, 2015 7:47:09 GMT -8
I agree with you but as I said, many paint jobs, original owners and the second hand market. Doing some like UP and BN that had tons of them and other roads every few runs. Bowser is doing the Canadian SD-40-2 eh. Plus reinvesting in all the variations that are possible. That's what I would do, but I'm not starting a company.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 8:38:10 GMT -8
Athearn is tooling the SDP40F and will announce it soon.
Keith Turley
Monrovia, California
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Post by powerglide on Aug 23, 2015 8:44:17 GMT -8
GE c-39-8.
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Post by PennCentral on Aug 23, 2015 9:04:40 GMT -8
That's a good one. Forgot all about the C39-8. Jason |
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Post by jbilbrey on Aug 23, 2015 12:30:27 GMT -8
The C39-8 leads my guesses as well: Locomotives: 1. C39-8 series (eventually leading to a C40-8 series) 2. Dash-7's 3. The "missing" U-Boats Freight Cars: 1. Some form of "modern" coal hopper or gondola. 2. The original Railgon series of gondolas. 3. Model of some type of intermodal equipment. I'm guessing that they are not going start off with an EMD project (even though we NEED an F7 manufactured at 12:05 on 21 January 1952, LOL) since that would be stepping on the toes of their former employer. Some of the other EMD's that has already been suggested have "unofficially" already been announced by other manufacturers. Regardless, time will eventually tell in November what their plans will be. James Bilbrey LaVergne, TN |
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Post by dti406 on Aug 23, 2015 12:47:29 GMT -8
A definitive RS-3 with the interchangeable side panels to do the Phase 1, 2 and 3 versions. As of right now the best model is the old Hobbytown RS-3.
Rick
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Post by ddatrainman on Aug 23, 2015 13:05:33 GMT -8
Possibly a SW1001? an SD-locomotive
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Post by PennCentral on Aug 23, 2015 13:16:12 GMT -8
A definitive RS-3 with the interchangeable side panels to do the Phase 1, 2 and 3 versions. As of right now the best model is the old Hobbytown RS-3. Rick Rick, This is from Bowser's FB page: "The RS-3 research has been a very large job. Our thoughts on tooling have changed from, making in China to make in USA. Right now it will be done in USA. I can make a many insert tool to help us make many versions and sub versions. Planned versions are Phase 2, 3, rebuilds, Hammerheads, chop noses and many more. We have upgraded to 3d Autodesk Inventor 2016 and are looking into scanning real locos to get measurements. Sorry for the poor quality writing. Have a great day." Reports are that Lee English has personally measured many of the existing RS-3's in the northeast including ex-D&H RS-3u and Penn Central/Conrail Dewitt Geep's. Jason |
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Post by calzephyr on Aug 23, 2015 14:05:13 GMT -8
Athearn is tooling the SDP40F and will announce it soon. Keith Turley Monrovia, California Keith Have you heard anything about the 8500 Turbine from Athearn??? They got everything else from T55/ Overland Larry |
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Post by calzephyr on Aug 23, 2015 14:09:38 GMT -8
If I were starting a company and had three locomotives coming out I would do an SD-40-2, tons of paint jobs and different versions to do later on like long nose etc. SD-39-2 and GP-39-2. All EMD to keep the tooling costs low. And I don't think anyone has done the '39's in plastic. What are they going to make? Keep the guessing going on. There is an Atlas Trainman GP39-2 model. There has not been a SD39-2, nor will there ever be. The total EMD production run of the SD39-2 = 0. On the other hand, a straight SD39 would be welcome. EMD produced 54 SD39 models and 10 SDL39 models. That makes a total of 64 including the SDL39 model. Not a large bunch for sure and that is probably the reason no one has produced it to date. It would be nice for someone to produce it since both the SP and SF had some. Larry |
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Post by Judge Doom on Aug 23, 2015 14:32:43 GMT -8
SW1001.
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Post by drolsen on Aug 23, 2015 15:59:11 GMT -8
I still think the major Class I option for a new, high-quality model is the AC4400CW family (maybe with the Dash 9 included, although MTH is bringing one out). Athearn's Blue Box version is pretty dated, and Kato never covered the major variation with three dynamic brake vents. There are enough prototype variations to warrant a quality, modular Genesis-style model.
I need a dozen, at least...
Dave
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Post by curtmc on Aug 23, 2015 16:16:34 GMT -8
The SD39 and SDL39 were two very different locomotives starting with a much different chassis length... So they would be separate projects for any manufacturer considering them.
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Post by curtmc on Aug 23, 2015 16:31:37 GMT -8
ScaleTrains had a hint in their first newsletter...
A locomotive "worthy of being exhibited in an American history museum"...
Hmmm... American History Museum = National Museum of American History in DC...
They have 2 prominent historic locomotives on display - the John Bull and Southern #1401...
I'm betting on the latter - a Pacific... and the location of ScaleTrains in eastern TN is near where Southern RR Pacifics ran.
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Post by dti406 on Aug 23, 2015 17:23:53 GMT -8
A definitive RS-3 with the interchangeable side panels to do the Phase 1, 2 and 3 versions. As of right now the best model is the old Hobbytown RS-3. Rick Rick, This is from Bowser's FB page: "The RS-3 research has been a very large job. Our thoughts on tooling have changed from, making in China to make in USA. Right now it will be done in USA. I can make a many insert tool to help us make many versions and sub versions. Planned versions are Phase 2, 3, rebuilds, Hammerheads, chop noses and many more. We have upgraded to 3d Autodesk Inventor 2016 and are looking into scanning real locos to get measurements. Sorry for the poor quality writing. Have a great day." Reports are that Lee English has personally measured many of the existing RS-3's in the northeast including ex-D&H RS-3u and Penn Central/Conrail Dewitt Geep's. Jason Jason, thanks I totally forgot about Bowser doing the RS-3's, I knew they were going to do the C-415's and rebuilt U25b's but forgot about the RS-3's. Can't wait to get a correct NKP RS-3! Rick J |
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Post by platec on Aug 23, 2015 17:37:33 GMT -8
Baldwin DT6-6-2000.
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Post by chitownjeff on Aug 23, 2015 17:44:09 GMT -8
I would be all in for a SD39.......2 Illinois Terminal....2 Santa Fe.......
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Post by fr8kar on Aug 23, 2015 17:56:57 GMT -8
If I were starting a company and had three locomotives coming out I would do an SD-40-2, tons of paint jobs and different versions to do later on like long nose etc. SD-39-2 and GP-39-2. All EMD to keep the tooling costs low. And I don't think anyone has done the '39's in plastic. What are they going to make? Keep the guessing going on. There is an Atlas Trainman GP39-2 model. There has not been a SD39-2, nor will there ever be. The total EMD production run of the SD39-2 = 0. On the other hand, a straight SD39 would be welcome. BNSF has marked a few former ATSF SD40-2s as SD39-2 on the sill (but not on the blue card). It's a little weird to see. |
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