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Post by choochooboy on Sept 16, 2015 10:52:01 GMT -8
I’ve wanted to have 6 to 8 car cut of lumber traffic for a manifest freight on my 1970s era Union Pacific layout. This is what I’ve done thus far. The lumber loads consist of dimensionally accurate 2X4 loads in 8’, 10’ 12’ and 16’ lengths. (In the attached photo, I only show 10’ and 16’ lengths.) In total, I’ve created 16 different end profiles for each layer of each length. So there are 512 total profile possibilities to ensure that the end profiles don’t look like they are repeating themselves. The loads are stacked 16 pieces by 13 pieces, per prototype photos. Also, every layer has full, laser-engraved board detail—so in the event that a board from any intermediate layer be sufficiently exposed, it still looks like an individual board. I am pretty happy with the results thus far. Particularly, I like that one can see in between the layers and bundles. Because every bundle has unique end profile detail, it creates awesome sense of 3-D space. I have a small quantity of material left over, and I could sell some of the loads (for a limited time)—should anyone be interested. If someone on this forum is, message me in the feed, and I will give more details. My best, Blaine Hadfield    |
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Post by mlehman on Sept 16, 2015 11:25:12 GMT -8
Blaine, That stuff looks great! Having built my share -- and still not enough -- of board-by-board loads, a good looking short-cut like this would be a big time-saver. Not sure if you're testing the waters for production, but if so, you might find interest in other scales and gauges. Most of my board-by-board loads have been for HOn3. The Rio Grande shipped a lot of lumber out of a mill at Durango right until the end of regular freight operations in the late 60s, as well as other places and times. I could see interest in HOn3, On3/30, and possibly Sn3. Not your main business model, I know, but if it's a profitable niche for you may well be of interest to those communities. My hobby funds are nil right now or I would certainly take a look at these, as I have standard gauge cars needing loads after transfer from the NG. I'm sure there are others here who are likely interested, though. Good *easy* loads are hard to find.  |
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Post by nebrzephyr on Sept 16, 2015 12:31:14 GMT -8
Nice looking load. Need to add those to the ExactRail product line.
Bob
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Post by SOMECALLMETIM on Sept 16, 2015 13:45:19 GMT -8
I'm interested in picking up some of the lumber loads.
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Post by TBird1958 on Sept 16, 2015 15:20:03 GMT -8
That sure looks good - PM me!
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Post by steveturner on Sept 16, 2015 19:17:16 GMT -8
Count me in too for an order to fit 40 ft flat cars.Thanks Steve
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Post by bn4180 on Sept 17, 2015 7:33:36 GMT -8
Blaine!
Those look great, I'm interested.
Tom Bacarella
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 9:11:26 GMT -8
I am in!
Thanks, Blaine!
Keith Turley
Monrovia, California
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Post by gtws00 on Sept 17, 2015 15:03:02 GMT -8
Blaine,
I am interested in these as well
Thanks
George Toman
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 19:28:52 GMT -8
Blaine:
I am interested in the loads...
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Post by drolsen on Sept 18, 2015 8:00:47 GMT -8
Blaine, I'm definitely interested too! If you can offer these as a regular product, I think they would be really popular. I think it could get expensive to fill up a centerbeam flat car though...
Just looking through prototype photos, it looks like many contemporary lumber loads have more uniform boards with the ends stacked evenly, but these are still examples of this style of stack.
Dave
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Post by riogrande on Sept 18, 2015 8:18:23 GMT -8
I agree with Dave on both counts - 1) it will be very expensive to outfit a centerbeam or even a regular flat car, 2) the loads look great and would be popular based on how darn hard it is to find even the Athearn 60' prefab lumber loads, which I pain stakingly managed to collect about 9 or so. Those are getting to be almost as rare as hens teeth now!
I've been looking at photo's for the past couple years to observe open lumber loads and type/style and most are even as Dave mentioned which the Athearn pre-fab, are staggered, and for their part do look quite good for what they are.
Perhaps as a regular product, if produced in a larger quantity the loads might be slightly more affordable, which would help us who are on limited funds.
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Post by valenciajim on Sept 18, 2015 10:17:04 GMT -8
If these were offered commercially, I would probably be interested as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 11:06:57 GMT -8
These look good. I'd buy some.
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Post by choochooboy on Sept 18, 2015 11:41:12 GMT -8
They are available! If you have an interest, please feel free to message me.
If you part the curtain though, this was strictly a personal project.
I wanted to create highly authentic lumber loads. There is only one supplier of this material in the state of Utah, and it requires a $10,000.00 minimum. I was fortunate to be able to plead for a few sheets of material for my project. As for what remains, I am willing to sell.
There are 450 layers of laminated material for the one flat car load of my project car! This level of detail over an eight-car cut is beautiful, and I am pleased with the results. That said, I am also pleased to be in the final stages of the project. This has been a lot of time; it will be good to move onto to something else.
My best,
Blaine Hadfield
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Post by paulman on Sept 19, 2015 9:21:00 GMT -8
I am interested in some lumber as well, Blaine. Those look sharp!
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Post by choochooboy on Sept 19, 2015 21:05:54 GMT -8
Hi Paul,
I am offering the loads in sets of 10 individual bunks. The bunks are assembled without banding, and I’ll include the material for the banding as well and cribbing. The sets are available in 8’, 10’, 12’ and 16’ lengths. The cost is $45.00 a set, plus $6.00 shipping.
Payment can be made through Paypal. My Paypal address is blainehadfield@yahoo.com. Please let me know how many of each set you would like with payment, and I will follow up with you when they are shipped.
I have a fair number of the 12’ and 16’ sets, I am able to ship those immediately. The smaller lengths (8’ and 10’) may need to be laser cut and assembled. Should you want the smaller lengths, please kindly give me three days to do that before they ship.
My best,
Blaine
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Post by lajrmdlr on Sept 20, 2015 9:57:56 GMT -8
Blaine
Don't remember why, but something's not right w/ your lumber loads. Sent your pix to Greg Martin. who's been selling lumber for 30+ years so knows how they were banded, how many could be on a flat car & how they were loaded. He had an article in a 1990 Mainline Modeler issue that answers those questions & more. Tried to find the article but no luck yet. Maybe someone here has it.
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Post by choochooboy on Sept 21, 2015 19:27:44 GMT -8
@ Andy:
The lumber bunks are the correct dimensions in terms of length and number of boards per bunk.
Greg and I have exchanged a few messages, and he was politely critical of the way I banded the bunks. Bunks should be banded individually, and there should be banding across rows of bunks. I don't have banding across rows of bunks, but I am also not done adding rows. In the photos, there are three rows. When the car is finished, it will have five rows of bunks.
My best,
Blaine Hadfield
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Post by autocoach on Sept 22, 2015 12:40:46 GMT -8
You may also wish to check out www.owlmtmodels.com/lumber/3001.html for "Two Wide 16-18' Long 3x10 Stacks of Rough-Cut Modular Lumber to Fill a “Wide Deck” 40-50' Flatcar in HO-Scale". No disclaimer. I am acquainted with the owner. best ken adams |
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Post by wp8thsub on Sept 22, 2015 13:10:40 GMT -8
You may also wish to check out www.owlmtmodels.com/lumber/3001.html for "Two Wide 16-18' Long 3x10 Stacks of Rough-Cut Modular Lumber to Fill a “Wide Deck” 40-50' Flatcar in HO-Scale". I picked up one of the Owl Mountain loads at the National Train Show. I'm modeling roughly the same era as Blaine, so the kit is designed for an earlier era. I modified the kit to look more appropriate for the 1970s, separating the larger stacks into smaller banded units and reworking the dunnage. This photo shows the almost finished product (prior to adding final details, flat finish and some "weathering" to make it look less like plastic), sitting on an ExactRail GSC flatcar.  I think there's potential to build some other variations out of the Owl Mountain kit, and they would make a good complement to the style Blaine's been working on. |
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Post by riogrande on Sept 23, 2015 6:43:22 GMT -8
That is exactly what I was thinking when I saw the Owl Mountain Kit. It needs to be modified to split the loads down the middle and get rid of that frame around the load which looks nothing like 70's loads. Looks like you did a good job modifying their load - something I may have to try now that I am aware of Owl Mountain.
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