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Post by jaygee on Nov 25, 2015 9:44:30 GMT -8
When you want to build big, you gotta research big......and such is the nature of the new ST video just posted on Facebook, by Trainmasters. Another installment will cover the model assembly in China. I get the distinct impression that this chooch will be so over the top, that you'll be able to climb into the cab...hit the start button, get the Turbine rolling, ....and throw a fusee into the exhaust duct.....and -BOOM- Instant 1958 ! Highly recommended for both information and "personality" ! Congrats, gentlemen !
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Post by espeenut on Nov 25, 2015 15:13:12 GMT -8
...yes indeed, they certainly did their research! Along with the SP I also model the Union Pacific but, generally speaking, mainly what shows up here in the Pacific Northwest. However...this locomotive is so iconic and unique to the UP that after seeing the pictures of the models I knew I wasn't going to be able to resist and put my pre-order in today for #14. It won't arrive until after April so that gives me some time to save up a few dollars to pay for it, chances are quite good that I will sell a few items that are of lesser desirability before then...
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Post by bigblow69 on Nov 25, 2015 15:43:16 GMT -8
I remember all the naysayers saying why this model would never be made in plastic. Kudos to Scaletrains for making this possible. Hopefully some of the monies donated will give 18 and 26 new paint jobs. May order two or three museums. Now how well will they speed match with other manufacturers diesels? You got put some SD24's,SD40'S SD45'S,GP35's GP30's behind them. Must add them to my great rolling carpet railroad. Trust me I will pull massive trains with these.
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Post by ambluco on Nov 25, 2015 17:32:49 GMT -8
Athearn released a turbine so why would the release of this variation be no different?
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Post by espeenut on Nov 25, 2015 17:55:23 GMT -8
Athearn released their versions of the earlier types because they could also utilize the frame and trucks for the U50. There is nothing else that uses anything from the GTEL 8500's, so that is the main reason people were saying it would never be done.
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Post by ScaleTrains.com on Nov 25, 2015 18:17:04 GMT -8
Athearn released a turbine so why would the release of this variation be no different? Ambluco, The "Big Blow" Turbine was the most powerful locomotive ever created for North American railroads. They produced 8,500 horsepower and some were even uprated to 10,000 HP. For comparison, the Big Boy produced just over 6,000 HP. Check out our video documentary to learn more about what makes this locomotive legendary. trainmasters.tv/videos/2015-11-3-tmtv-nov-2015-edition-act-iiiHave a great Thanksgiving! Shane Shane Wilson President ScaleTrains.com, Inc. |
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Post by jaygee on Nov 25, 2015 19:10:35 GMT -8
EMD did a test of this locomotive in conjunction with MU operation with new GP30s in the Summer of 1962. There is a photo of the combo in Turbines West, IIRC. It's my understanding that the EMD engineers wanted to know just what kind of power this machine was contributing to the lash-up. It was during one such test, during a rain storm in the Joshua Tree desert area, that the dyno recorded a figure commensurate with something like 13,700 HP gross. The DBHP was never made public. This could be achieved as EMD was well familiar with the output of their GP30 model by this time. Chalk one up for number 29 !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 19:50:27 GMT -8
Athearn released their versions of the earlier types because they could also utilize the frame and trucks for the U50. There is nothing else that uses anything from the GTEL 8500's, so that is the main reason people were saying it would never be done. There is 1 thing that can be used, the trucks, on U50C's. It would be nice those done, too. |
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Post by carrman on Nov 25, 2015 19:52:49 GMT -8
Amazing how well they kept that much power per axle from erupting in massive wheel slip, considering the wheel slip systems in use at the time. A GP60 is 1000 hp per axle, an 8500 hp Big Blow is 708 per axle.
Dave
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Post by calzephyr on Nov 25, 2015 19:58:00 GMT -8
Athearn released a turbine so why would the release of this variation be no different? Take a look at the early Standard 4500HP units #51 to #59 and compare them to the GETEL units # 1 to 29. The Veranda 4500 is always popular and Athearn makes that one also, but it is a single 4500hp unit with a tender added to extend the fuel range as an after thought. The 8500 HP GETEL with the tender not an option is one of the largest locomotives any place on the planet and was probably louder than any loco on the planet. The size and power along is amazing and it has a smaller diesel motor to power it around the yard since the turbine only runs a one speed and one very loud sound, like a jet engine noise. It is impressive to say the least!!!! Larry |
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Post by ambluco on Nov 26, 2015 4:17:40 GMT -8
My comment was in response to bigblow69 saying the naysayers said it would never be done.
I never argued it couldn't or wouldn't be done as others have in the past. I just said Athearn released a TYPE of turbine. And so could any other manufacturer and they did, a GETEL. After the last 10 years, I haven't given up any loco hitting the market in plastic. I'm not quite a pessimist in that regard.
At the other end of the spectrum from the turbine, BLI released an honest to goodness Plymouth that is correct and real. Not some foobie Plymouth or GE or fake industrial engine like others have many times in the past (read Athearn Hustler). The sky is the limit with locomotives now.
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Post by jaygee on Nov 26, 2015 5:19:31 GMT -8
One thing that always figured into the Big Turbine picture was the availability of extra tenders for use with steam excursions, water and fuel storage, work trains, and swapping within the Turbine family. Good to see that ST has already opened the door on that one to offset the huge tooling costs. More will be available as Turbine tenders, as opposed to water tenders, later on...IIRC. One cause of Turbine pessimism in recent times was the cave-in at Tower 55 with regards to their projected Turbine project. Theirs was ambitious, but not as much so as ST's. The "official" reasons for the dumped project never really got traction then, and if anything, today's market is even less able to absorb this massive chooch. So a hearty congrats to the ScaleTrains crew, who figured out how to put all this together and make it work. I predict lots of noisy basements in the near future !
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Post by bigblow69 on Nov 28, 2015 17:41:05 GMT -8
Ordered my 3 museums. Not so much because of them being in the more detailed line but because of the road numbers. I suppose I'll own more somewhere down the road.
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Post by jaygee on Nov 28, 2015 19:54:06 GMT -8
I'm in for a few, but I'd like to see a couple more of the low numbered jobs worked in there eventually. At some point, I want an un-numbered GTEL for my fantasy No. 44...from the stillborn order for the last fifteen. Had these been built, at least a few would have received modified 25C tenders from cooked Big Boys, and roof details similar in some respects to No. 30.
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