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Post by GP40P-2 on May 24, 2017 9:09:47 GMT -8
Yet TTH has no SCL C430s on their site currently, and certainly not at a discount to "blow them out."
I don't need a C430, but I would certainly take one (even an SCL), if the price was right. $179 is a bit high for something on a lark...
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Post by peoriaman on May 24, 2017 10:37:48 GMT -8
Perhaps if it was a fast initial sellout, that might have been because the production run was a bit smaller than some? I don't know. That was most likely the case. |
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Post by baldclamlocoshop on May 24, 2017 14:15:05 GMT -8
Not Seaboard Coast Line. It did not sell. Obviously, they got close enough to the minimum required order to do that roadname, but the overage/extras they made to have stock on hand never sold. Before everyone jumps on bashing the SE roads train, the SCL only had 3 C430's... the ex demonstrators from Alco and most of the time they were never all together. Most of the time they were on branch lines and rarely were seen on ML trains. Sounds to me Mr. English took a gamble and it back fired on him. Me personally, I wouldn't have done them since there was only 3 of them. Back to the passenger trains now, like I said in a previous post, if WKW did a "accurate" SE psgr train, I'd bet the farm it would sell out and sell out quickly. People are tired of seeing the same ole crap year after year after year, I know I certainly am. That's why I either build them or have them 3D printed, sick of waiting on WKW and others to do them, even if its a limited run of them. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 14:29:32 GMT -8
Reading, a significantly smaller and less important railroad than SCL, had only 2 C-430's, often not run together, and they sold multiple runs of them, many more units per run, too.
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Post by Paul Cutler III on May 24, 2017 16:26:53 GMT -8
baldclamlocoshop,
Did you see all the posts from John Sheridan? If you really would "bet the farm" on a quick selling-out of a Southeast passenger train, then ask John to help you. However, you'll need serious cash to pay Rapido or Walthers to tool up a SE train. The cash is 50% due upon ordering and 50% before it will ship. If it sells out as quickly as you say it will, you will get a very nice profit.
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 24, 2017 16:53:20 GMT -8
Before everyone jumps on bashing the SE roads train, the SCL only had 3 C430's... And UP only had 4 RS-27's And SP&S only had 2 C-415's I'll bet hardly anyone would buy models of those, either. Ed |
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Post by roadkill on May 24, 2017 17:00:42 GMT -8
Before everyone jumps on bashing the SE roads train, the SCL only had 3 C430's... And UP only had 4 RS-27's And SP&S only had 2 C-415's I'll bet hardly anyone would buy models of those, either. Ed Heck, the mighty PRR had but one C424, wonder how many would buy one of those? |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 17:31:19 GMT -8
PRR you say?  |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 19:21:40 GMT -8
I will take a yellow silver and brunswick green "East Wind" in plastic. It even used ACL cars...
BLI now makes the one coach. They need to offer it in the original East Wind scheme, because even non-PRR fans like myself will still have to buy it just because it is hot!
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Post by lvrr325 on May 25, 2017 1:47:56 GMT -8
SCL C430s are only good for about a 10 year window, if that, from like 1969 to around 1978 when they were sent to the L&N.
Atlas did SCL C420s and only one turned up as a closeout with a discount. But others can still be had at regular price. I would buy one if it was cheap. Same deal though, they're only good for post merger through being sent to the L&N.
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Post by Paul Cutler III on May 25, 2017 8:24:32 GMT -8
RI 2695, For info on The East Wind, see the write up by my friend Ross Hall for the Highball Graphics decal set: highballgraphics.com/P-122.htmRoss' problem with The East Wind has always been the ACL cars. The NH baggage is a resin kit from Funaro & Camerlingo, the NH grill is available as an old brass model from NJ/Custom Brass (I've seen 'em for $60-$100), the B&M coaches are Rapido Osgood Bradley cars or ECW kits, and the PRR cars are available as laser cut sides or brass. The ACL cars are just unavailable and need to be kitbashed or scratch built. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 13:53:30 GMT -8
Or for a cool $4000 or so, one can purchase the brand new Division Point "East Wind" Train...I like it, but don't have that kind of cash, and if I did, would have some articulated freight steamers instead, lol.
I've seen the decal set, thank you. Nicely researched. I wouldn't personally bash a train, but BLI now has the P70's. It would be nice to buy a yellow one, or two, or four. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 13:57:09 GMT -8
SCL C430s are only good for about a 10 year window, if that, from like 1969 to around 1978 when they were sent to the L&N. Atlas did SCL C420s and only one turned up as a closeout with a discount. But others can still be had at regular price. I would buy one if it was cheap. Same deal though, they're only good for post merger through being sent to the L&N.
Perhaps, but the Reading C-430's had an even smaller window, as they were frequently stored due to problems with aluminum cabling (at least one was re-cabled), and as the one was promptly patched by Conrail and the other one promptly repainted by Conrail. Just accept that tiny little Reading is just more popular to this day than SAL or ACL or SCL.
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Post by fmilhaupt on Jul 8, 2017 4:12:17 GMT -8
I see that Walthers has changed the number on the baggage-RPO to a different series (52-53), which represents a completely different car than the 80-series car they'd announced earlier.
The real C&O 52 and 53 were ex-PM heavyweight baggage-RPOs 650-651, rebuilt from diners. They were very similar to the car shown in Walthers' black and white photo, though they were nominally 80-foot cars, as opposed to Walthers' 70-foot models. At least it's a closer stand-in than the ACF streamlined RPO from the Pere Marquette set.
The guys on the Passenger Cars List have identified the model that Walthers appears to be planning as being based on 17 cars ACF built for Missouri Pacific subsidiaries.
Well, I can't use that baggage-RPO for my Wabash projects, but it's a bit closer for my 1950-era Pere Marquette stuff, so I'll strip them and paint them green. That just means that I've only ordered two of them, instead of four.
The new car should be a welcome relief from the ancient and clunky AHM/Rivarossi model (and the even worse IHC-tooled car), and has the advantage that it should be able to take the arch roof that Walthers tooled for their baggage-express car, for freelancers who want a little variety.
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Post by Amboy Secondary on Jul 8, 2017 7:09:17 GMT -8
Walthers Web site mentioned that yesterday, July 7, 2017 was the cutoff date for orders for the GW. Does anyone know if it made the cut?
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