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Post by PennCentral on Aug 1, 2018 8:25:20 GMT -8
Thought it would be helpful to start a thread with a listing of all the companies affected by by the Chinese factory shutdown. Lets please keep politics, speculation, and anything not related to a simple list of companies out of this thread. PLEASE add any additional companies that you have a status on. Thank you, Jason Cook Indiana So far: Atlas (Official Announcement) Bluford Shops (Official Announcement) Bowser (Official Announcement) ExactRail (Official Announcement) Fox Valley Models (Official Announcement) Intermountain (Official Announcement) Spring Mills Depot (Official Announcement) Trainworx (Official Announcement - Pat Sanders/Trainworx) Wheels of Time (Official Announcement) NOT affected: Athearn (Official Announcement) Bachmann/Kader - Kader owns their factories Pacific Western Rail Systems (PWRS Project Manager Darrell) Rapido (Official Announcement) Scale Trains (Official Announcement) Walthers (Official Announcement) NOT affected - company does not source from China: Accurail (Illinois based with in house production) Kadee (Oregon based with in house production) Kato (Japanese company with production based in Japan) Monster LED Shinohara (Japanese based, shutting down due to retirement) Unknown: Moloco Tangent
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Post by canrailfan on Aug 1, 2018 8:54:04 GMT -8
Jason, thanks for the list. It's interesting to see how many of the major companies were dependent on this one source.
Hopefully those affected can move their tooling and partially completed projects to a different factory although the available overall factory capacity will probably make this difficult.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 9:01:48 GMT -8
I am hopeful that all affected entities can move forward and reclaim their intellectual property. These companies have given us a superior selection of products over the years and I am very grateful for them. I thank you all for your continuing contributions to the great hobby of Model Railroading.
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Post by markfj on Aug 1, 2018 9:18:28 GMT -8
I don’t see Pacific Western Rail Systems listed, so my fingers are crossed that their PS 5077 boxcars are still in production and won’t be delayed. Really excited to get those cars!
Mark
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Post by jonklein611 on Aug 1, 2018 9:45:48 GMT -8
Kato shouldn't be affected since they produce in Japan.
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Post by fcixdarrell on Aug 1, 2018 9:46:54 GMT -8
I don’t see Pacific Western Rail Systems listed, so my fingers are crossed that their PS 5077 boxcars are still in production and won’t be delayed. Really excited to get those cars! Mark Mark, Thanks for your concern! Fortunately, NARCorp/PWRS has their production at a different factory and the PS 5077 project was not effected. A shipment of decorated samples (HO and N) were received yesterday for us to review and will be on display at the Kansas City show this month. Another shipment of decorated samples will be shipping in 3 weeks. Hopefully, the samples look good. Looking forward to getting these cars cranked out. Darrell (project manager)
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Post by stevewagner on Aug 1, 2018 9:55:51 GMT -8
Jason Cook, thank you for this very useful thread!
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Post by gevohogger on Aug 1, 2018 11:18:19 GMT -8
NOT affected: Athearn (Official Announcement) Kato (Japanese company with production based in Japan) Pacific Western Rail Systems (PWRS Project Manager Darrell) Rapido (Official Announcement) Scale Trains (Official Announcement) Walthers (Official Announcement) Kadee (obviously...)
Accurail
etc.
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Post by MONSTERRAILROAD on Aug 1, 2018 14:50:46 GMT -8
Monster LEDs not affected.
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Aug 1, 2018 18:02:26 GMT -8
Pat Sanders at Trainworx sent out an email stating they are affected by the closure! So add them to the list.
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Post by captainmudflap (AL) on Aug 1, 2018 19:02:45 GMT -8
SHINOHARA!
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Post by 12bridge on Aug 1, 2018 19:32:53 GMT -8
Is made in Japan, and is not at all related to this.
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Aug 2, 2018 4:42:11 GMT -8
Bachmann owned by Kader, so not affected...
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Post by gevohogger on Aug 2, 2018 6:59:37 GMT -8
Is made in Japan, and is not at all related to this. Yes, everyone knows that, but once Kato was mentioned, it seems the thread went global.
Which reminds me: Is Rivarossi making anything anymore?
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Post by PennCentral on Aug 2, 2018 7:14:37 GMT -8
Which reminds me: Is Rivarossi making anything anymore?
My understanding is that they bailed (again) on the US HO and N scale markets in 2017. Maybe late 2016. Days, weeks, months, years seem to blur the older I get. Anyway, they dumped their entire inventory of U25/28C's (and possibly their boxcars) to a single buyer in the Long Island area. Made for GREAT deals for the U-boats on the auction site that everyone loves to hate. Jason C Indiana
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Post by middledivision on Aug 2, 2018 8:02:31 GMT -8
^^^ Yes it did!
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Post by captainmudflap (AL) on Aug 2, 2018 14:46:23 GMT -8
Is made in Japan, and is not at all related to this. I'm well-aware of where Shinohara is made/country of origin. It's relation to the topic is: "another factory ceasing to manufacture Model RR item's..."; regardless of where they originate. Someone out-there still think the hobby isn't slowly dying? It's an ever-changing different world...and "only-change" remains constant. Austria, Italy, Slovenia...China, Japan, Korea... and the model train hobby? "SUM-TING-WONG!" LISTEN:
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Post by nebrzephyr on Aug 3, 2018 6:43:35 GMT -8
Just rec'd an email from one of the dealers I buy from and they indicated they had been notified by Tangent that it was also affected by the factory closing.
Bob
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Post by BEDT26 on Aug 3, 2018 11:12:32 GMT -8
I think that all these manufacturers should all pitch in and open their own factory like Rapido Trains has their own they have 2 factories.
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Post by lvrr325 on Aug 3, 2018 13:41:08 GMT -8
Bowser per email today has already found someone to do the run of 70T 2 bay hoppers that had preorders due the end of June.
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Post by Judge Doom on Aug 3, 2018 16:15:41 GMT -8
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Post by tony on Aug 6, 2018 12:19:45 GMT -8
When a Chinese company quits like this, what happens to all the dies and tools that customers invested in? How does an Intermountain or Atlas keep track of where they are, where they go?
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Post by fcixdarrell on Aug 6, 2018 13:13:46 GMT -8
When a Chinese company quits like this, what happens to all the dies and tools that customers invested in? How does an Intermountain or Atlas keep track of where they are, where they go? The dies, or molds, are owned by Atlas or Intermountain or whomever contracted for them to be made. Each project has a name or number and that ID is on all the associated molds, jigs, etc. Now, either agents of the companies or representatives of the companies have to go to the closed factory and see that all of their tooling is gathered together and transferred to another factory, if they can find a facility with the capacity to take the work on. When Sanda Kan changed hands in 2008 and dumped most of their clients, it was quite a mess getting everyone's tooling sorted out and moved to various factories. It took time and inevitably some pieces were lost, causing pieces to either be retooled, or projects dropped.
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Post by champagnetrail on Aug 6, 2018 13:30:26 GMT -8
I have been told by a reliable source that Moloco is NOT affected by the factory closure in China.
-pat
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