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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 29, 2019 13:36:03 GMT -8
90MAC-H
edit-Have to say it's some good marketing. Lot's of hype for who knows what.
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Post by csx3305 on Mar 29, 2019 13:53:57 GMT -8
I’m actually thinking now that it might be some kind of steam loco.
C36-7 would be cool, but I will be absolutely shocked if Athearn ever does a pre-Dash 9 GE. It just doesn’t make sense IMO.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Mar 29, 2019 14:23:06 GMT -8
Scaling off of the brick wall in the background, the box looks to be about 18.5 to 19 inches long. Except that the brick wall is farther away, so direct scaling won't work. It looks to me like Athearn's "standard" size box for C-C locos. Nope. Clearly a CIA-sponsored NW5. Ed
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 14:33:12 GMT -8
I’m actually thinking now that it might be some kind of steam loco. C36-7 would be cool, but I will be absolutely shocked if Athearn ever does a pre-Dash 9 GE. It just doesn’t make sense IMO.has Just wishful thinking...more than likely. But the has 90Mac H has been done in plastic? It's fun to speculate.
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Post by csx3305 on Mar 29, 2019 14:45:54 GMT -8
Scaling off of the brick wall in the background, the box looks to be about 18.5 to 19 inches long. Except that the brick wall is farther away, so direct scaling won't work. It looks to me like Athearn's "standard" size box for C-C locos. Well h**l, if we want to get ultra pedantic about it, I might point out that brick sizes vary depending on which continent you're standing on. And that's assuming its even real brick to begin with. My SD45-2 boxes (the older yellow ones) are 14 inches. No blue/gold ones for six-axles on hand for reference at my place. I've only bought four-axles since then.
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Post by bdhicks on Mar 29, 2019 14:48:00 GMT -8
I think most of the Genesis steamers use bigger boxes, so that the tender is packed separated from the locomotive.
The converted SD90MAC-H was done as a shell by RPP, but the later phase with the ACe style cab and fans hasn't.
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Post by roadkill on Mar 29, 2019 14:54:19 GMT -8
Which would logically lead to a C30-7.
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Post by packer on Mar 29, 2019 15:01:15 GMT -8
Except that the brick wall is farther away, so direct scaling won't work. It looks to me like Athearn's "standard" size box for C-C locos. Well h**l, if we want to get ultra pedantic about it, I might point out that brick sizes vary depending on which continent you're standing on. And that's assuming its even real brick to begin with. My SD45-2 boxes (the older yellow ones) are 14 inches. No blue/gold ones for six-axles on hand for reference at my place. I've only bought four-axles since then. the two boxes are the same size 17.5 ounces seems to be really close to the Sdp45 I have. So maybe? However if it’s a non-powered thing, maybe a DD35?
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Post by sd40dash2 on Mar 29, 2019 16:22:29 GMT -8
Athearn has posted that they will be announcing a brand new Genesis model tomorrow after 7pm CST online with guests James Wright and Ken Patterson.
They have added the #withtreadplate to the announcement, it's heavy (17.57 ounces if I read the image correctly), and in the topics they have replied that it has only previously been done in brass.
OK I am viewing the youtube channels for Athearn, JW and KP and cannot find the stream. Anyone able to post or embed a link here? Popcorn at the ready.
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Post by migalyto on Mar 29, 2019 16:32:10 GMT -8
Athearn has posted that they will be announcing a brand new Genesis model tomorrow after 7pm CST online with guests James Wright and Ken Patterson.
They have added the #withtreadplate to the announcement, it's heavy (17.57 ounces if I read the image correctly), and in the topics they have replied that it has only previously been done in brass.
OK I am viewing the youtube channels for Athearn, JW and KP and cannot find the stream. Anyone able to post or embed a link here? Popcorn at the ready. Nothing on Facebook yet either. Now they are saying 7:30 CST
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Post by simulatortrain on Mar 29, 2019 16:32:49 GMT -8
Athearn has posted that they will be announcing a brand new Genesis model tomorrow after 7pm CST online with guests James Wright and Ken Patterson.
They have added the #withtreadplate to the announcement, it's heavy (17.57 ounces if I read the image correctly), and in the topics they have replied that it has only previously been done in brass.
OK I am viewing the youtube channels for Athearn, JW and KP and cannot find the stream. Anyone able to post or embed a link here? Popcorn at the ready. Same here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 16:33:18 GMT -8
SD90MAC H
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Post by bdhicks on Mar 29, 2019 16:34:33 GMT -8
This video just showed up on JLWII2000's youtube channel
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Post by sd40dash2 on Mar 29, 2019 16:41:38 GMT -8
Very cool, thanks bdhicks!
"ALL NEW Athearn SD90MAC H2 w/Tsunami 2! Genesis!"
Thank you to JW for hosting this content and congrats to Athearn on a gorgeous model!
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Post by bigblow69 on Mar 29, 2019 16:50:45 GMT -8
I await the SD70ACU in CP and NS. Still keeping my Overlands in CP though.
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Post by GP40P-2 on Mar 29, 2019 17:21:06 GMT -8
Is this all new or a Railpower redo?
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Post by bdhicks on Mar 29, 2019 17:38:21 GMT -8
There's a large exterior difference between the SD9043MAC that Railpower did and the SD90MAC-H. You can think of it as close to the difference between an SD70MAC and an SD70ACe.
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Post by thunderhawk on Mar 29, 2019 17:53:57 GMT -8
I might pick up a CP for memories sake. The 9300's were beasts in the pulling dept and sounded wicked.
Had some UP's as well but only ever trailing. On coal trains surprisingly.
I don't know that I have ever seen the CP herald done well however. Probably the toughest to get right in the hobby.
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Post by ambluco on Mar 29, 2019 18:17:04 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 18:18:54 GMT -8
So...
Was this engine high on the modern guys' request list? It looks like a very nice model to me. No sale here...however...too modern. Additionally, I like other version with the rounded nose versus the H2 version. It is a huge diesel.
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Post by middledivision on Mar 29, 2019 18:29:59 GMT -8
Same frame as the 80 and 90 Macs?
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Post by csxt8400 on Mar 29, 2019 18:30:18 GMT -8
I will say that the model is nice looking, and it does fit my era, even. When Conrail 80MAC's come out I'd get one for sure, maybe even a phase I UP SD9043 if I can find a shot of one in a CSX or WC merchandise train, not coal related.. So maybe three of this platform make their way into my home. Whereas probably upwards of 15+ ScaleTrains SD45's if I have any say in the matter
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Post by csxt8400 on Mar 29, 2019 18:30:31 GMT -8
Same frame as the 80 and 90 Macs? Correct.
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Post by railmodeltroy14 on Mar 29, 2019 18:36:08 GMT -8
So... Was this engine high on the modern guys' request list? It looks like a very nice model to me. No sale here...however...too modern. Additionally, I like other version with the rounded nose versus the H2 version. It is a huge diesel. Not on my list and a big surprise...but...as you said...I also like the cab on the first SD90 and SD80 much better. We have 4 of the earlier Kato units and they are big but I still rate them among the smoothest running and best pullers available. Athearn will sell out of these in no time if they offer all of the various versions and roadnames. I see this model as a big seller but it will list price close to $350.00. RMT
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Post by nsfantodd on Mar 29, 2019 19:28:43 GMT -8
So... Was this engine high on the modern guys' request list? It looks like a very nice model to me. No sale here...however...too modern. Additionally, I like other version with the rounded nose versus the H2 version. It is a huge diesel. I don't think this engine was that high on the list, but I also don't think Athearn just tooled this engine. If they covered all the parts, this engine combined with the the tooling Athearn already has and some additional tooling could lead quite a few new locomotives, including the; SD80MAC SD90MAC SD70ACU SD80ACU SD70ACC I'm excited about the possibilities!
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Post by packer on Mar 29, 2019 19:29:43 GMT -8
Genesis 2.0? Etched steps, tread plate, ground lights, and something else I’m forgetting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 19:30:59 GMT -8
So... Was this engine high on the modern guys' request list? It looks like a very nice model to me. No sale here...however...too modern. Additionally, I like other version with the rounded nose versus the H2 version. It is a huge diesel. Not on my list and a big surprise...but...as you said...I also like the cab on the first SD90 and SD80 much better. We have 4 of the earlier Kato units and they are big but I still rate them among the smoothest running and best pullers available. Athearn will sell out of these in no time if they offer all of the various versions and roadnames. I see this model as a big seller but it will list price close to $350.00. RMT I think it will be a good seller as well. The SD9043 and SD80s are almost a certain follow up to these.
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Post by bdhicks on Mar 29, 2019 19:36:04 GMT -8
So... Was this engine high on the modern guys' request list? It looks like a very nice model to me. No sale here...however...too modern. Additionally, I like other version with the rounded nose versus the H2 version. It is a huge diesel. Well, there's certainly a reason it didn't get a plastic model until well after the SD9043MAC and AC6000, but it's big UP power and the appeal is basically the same as big UP power of other eras. Probably more practical for a home layout than an 8 axle double diesel, a turbine, or a Big Boy, too.
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Post by gevohogger on Mar 30, 2019 3:55:59 GMT -8
NS has these too I think? Any reason they couldn't have done them in NS, or are theirs substantially different, or not yet in service (pending their rebuilds), or whatever? After all, as Janek said, Athearn "...doesn't leave eastern modelers out to dry".
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Post by bdhicks on Mar 30, 2019 5:17:21 GMT -8
NS has these too I think? Any reason they couldn't have done them in NS, or are theirs substantially different, or not yet in service (pending their rebuilds), or whatever? After all, as Janek said, Athearn "...doesn't leave eastern modelers out to dry". To the best of my knowledge, the NS AS70ACU program has only done rebuilds based on the earlier SD90/43MAC version so far. Plus, Athearn would probably want to do those rebuilds as a separate product.
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