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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 28, 2019 17:28:37 GMT -8
More precisely, the Athearn cars that are a foot too wide are their Roundhouse 50' FMC boxes EXCEPT the 5347, and their Roundhouse 50' P-S, EXCEPT their 5277.
Ed
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Post by brakie on Apr 28, 2019 17:51:26 GMT -8
More precisely, the Athearn cars that are a foot too wide are their Roundhouse 50' FMC boxes EXCEPT the 5347, and their Roundhouse 50' P-S, EXCEPT their 5277. Ed Ed, The BB ACF (aka Railbox) boxcar is also a foot to wide.. I notice this when I had my collection of Athearn and Roundhouse short line IPD boxcars and IIRC the 57' reefer is a foot wide too as is the BB ACF covered hopper.. If one looks down the side of a long cut of these cars from a "ground" view they are uniform.
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Post by trainguy99 on Apr 29, 2019 2:36:24 GMT -8
Mainline is similar to Bachmann Silver Series, some are as good or better than Athearn MDC cars, some are toy like, just sift through them Indeed and they are still a foot to wide. Bachmann's "Silver Series" 50' ACF boxcar is a knock off of Athearns BB ACF(aka Railbox) 50' box No. The Walthers Mainline ACF "Railbox" car is not a knockoff of anything and its dimensions are correct.
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Post by brakie on Apr 29, 2019 6:03:42 GMT -8
Indeed and they are still a foot to wide. Bachmann's "Silver Series" 50' ACF boxcar is a knock off of Athearns BB ACF(aka Railbox) 50' box No. The Walthers Mainline ACF "Railbox" car is not a knockoff of anything and its dimensions are correct.
Reread my post.. I was referring to the Athearn and Roundhouse cars as being to wide and I said the "Bachmann's "Silver Series" 50' ACF boxcar is a knock off of Athearns BB ACF(aka Railbox) 50' box" not the Walthers. I had one Walthers ACF 50' boxcar and IMHO they a step above the BB ACF 50' boxcar.
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Post by marknycfan on Apr 29, 2019 7:41:31 GMT -8
I've got a few of the Bachmann Silver Series 50' flat cars with trailers, they're pretty nice models bought on sale, I'd never pay $45- for one though
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Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 29, 2019 9:40:09 GMT -8
...and IIRC the 57' reefer is a foot wide too as is the BB ACF covered hopper.. Athearn makes three ACF covered hoppers: the (very) old 4 bay 5250, and the much younger two bay 2970 and, the baby of the family, the Genesis 4600. I measured the width of all three and converted to HO dimensions: 5250--10'-7 1/2" 2970--10'-8 1/2" 4600--10'-6 1/4" real one--10'-8" I had to go down to the garage and dig out the ole 5250's. Didn't know I had so many. More stuff to practice my weathering on! I couldn't find the 57' reefers. I know I have a few, 'cause I lettered a couple in GN WAY before Athearn did. Ed
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Post by dti406 on May 1, 2019 5:27:45 GMT -8
These cars were pretty much trashed by the members of the Steam Era Freight Car Group, not correct in any way to the cars done by Westerfield.
Their suggestion, don't reserve and don't buy. Al Westerfield is going to contact Walthers and see if they can be fixed.
Rick Jesionowski
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Post by jbilbrey on May 2, 2019 18:27:15 GMT -8
These cars were pretty much trashed by the members of the Steam Era Freight Car Group, not correct in any way to the cars done by Westerfield. Their suggestion, don't reserve and don't buy. Al Westerfield is going to contact Walthers and see if they can be fixed. Rick Jesionowski I received an email concerning the single-sheathed cars. The references will be changed to "40' Single Sheathed Boxcar with Murphy Ends" to get around the fact that the car is a model of an XM-1 boxcar instead of a USRA boxcar for at least this production run. No decisions apparently were made about future production runs and/or if they would tool a correct single-sheathed USRA boxcar down the road.
I wish Al Westerfield the best of luck in contacting Walthers to see if improvements can be made to improve the line.
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Post by marknycfan on Jul 7, 2019 5:22:00 GMT -8
Any update if Walthers is going to correct any of these cars?
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Post by jbilbrey on Jul 7, 2019 8:20:29 GMT -8
Any update if Walthers is going to correct any of these cars? At least the single-sheathed "USRA" boxcars will not be corrected this run. Too bad they did not add roads such as L&N, B&M, or even the WAG so that the cars would be correct for something.
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Post by champagnetrail on Jul 7, 2019 18:56:24 GMT -8
Any update if Walthers is going to correct any of these cars? At least the single-sheathed "USRA" boxcars will not be corrected this run. Too bad they did not add roads such as L&N, B&M, or even the WAG so that the cars would be correct for something. Ain't it just like Walthers to churn out the foobie paint schemes while ignoring the handful of railroads who ACTUALLY had that kind of freight car. Sigh...
-pat
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Post by NJT4130 on Jul 8, 2019 15:04:13 GMT -8
There was lots of talk on "social media" with regard to inaccurate schemes. One big one was Walthers planning to do a blue Lehigh Valley boxcar when the prototype was in fact green. Many Lehigh Valley modelers expressed concern to Walthers with a zero response from them. One modeler also noted that on Facebook, Walthers has removed "view other member posts" in which you could see posts to the Walthers page from other modelers.
I am not sure what is going on with that company, but they certainly seem to have taken a turn for the worse sadly.
-Martin
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Post by 12bridge on Jul 8, 2019 15:47:41 GMT -8
Actually, Walthers DID respond, and they DID say it was a mistake in the artwork, and they are green.
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Post by NJT4130 on Jul 8, 2019 15:57:57 GMT -8
Ah GLAD they did, that will make LV modelers happy!
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jul 8, 2019 17:07:29 GMT -8
Actually, Walthers DID respond, and they DID say it was a mistake in the artwork, and they are green. To be fair, I recently contacted Walthers as well to politely point out some errors on another of their models and they replied nicely in a reasonable amount of time. They suggested they would be correcting the errors in a future run. So it seems that Walthers does indeed respond and take feedback & correct where practical.
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Post by riogrande on Jul 9, 2019 2:47:20 GMT -8
Nice to hear that.
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Post by grabirons on Sept 13, 2019 16:20:58 GMT -8
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Post by trainguy99 on Sept 14, 2019 7:27:05 GMT -8
Something to remember with all the manufacturers, not only Walthers: just because an email was sent doesn't mean it was to the right email address, that it got through the spam filter, that it got to the right person, and that the person is in the office and has time to reply.
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