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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 4:20:43 GMT -8
I have now finished 10 cars for my general merchandise freight. This is car #10. MODEL: Train Miniature UNDERFRAME: Accurail (modified to fit) TRUCKS: Tahoe Model Works COUPLERS: Kadee BRAKE WHEEL: Details West This car was a nightmare of flash. By the time I finished cleaning it all up, there was a lot of paint scraped off. This called for a repaint. A trip to the local RC hobby store brought home six different shades of Tamiya gray. To my surprise it turns out that Tamiya XF-19 was a perfect match for the gray on the model. The roof, roof walk, roof doors and lower car sides got repainted gray. The ends got repainted black. I was able to do all the paintwork and preserve all the lettering. I tossed the TM underframe and trucks. I used an Accurail 40' boxcar frame. This I trimmed to fit the car. Weathering was done with washes and pigments. URTX_REFER_63851_WEATHERED_01 by Brian Banna, on Flickr URTX_REFER_63851_WEATHERED_02 by Brian Banna, on Flickr URTX_REFER_63851_WEATHERED_03 by Brian Banna, on Flickr Brian
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Post by ncrc5315 on Aug 19, 2019 14:33:26 GMT -8
Really nice work!
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Post by marknycfan on Aug 19, 2019 15:56:38 GMT -8
Well that's damn nice looking!
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Post by valenciajim on Aug 19, 2019 15:58:50 GMT -8
Very nice.
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Post by brakie on Aug 19, 2019 16:39:56 GMT -8
Sweet looking reefer.. If that was mine I would think twice about taking it to a club.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 9:38:07 GMT -8
This is a repost from teh thread "Athearn Announcemnet" I thought I would move it here since it is part of my Club Runner Series. A place to post them all instead of starting anew thread each time. The fix up on this car required new bolster pins. This car had the snap clip trucks. I filled the giant bolster hole and built a new bolster pad. I built the pin up and then center drilled it for a new screw. It rides on Kato 70 ton solid bearing trucks. Other work that was done to the car was a clean up of some unsightly flash. Not as much as I should have done, but some. I then matched the paint and re-shot all the areas I cleaned up. I also painted the trucks the body color. Just seemed right to do that. To my knowledge, this car is a foob. But it is a car that I really like and is part of my nostalgia collection. A collection of cars I had as a kid in N-Scale that I am replicating in HO scale. The difference between this car and what AHM produced in N-Scale is the N-Scale car is a longer four bay hopper. AHM NAUGATUCK PLASTICS HOPPER by Brian Banna, on Flickr Brian
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 9:46:03 GMT -8
This is another car in my nostalgia collection. My brother had this car in N-scale when we were kids. I bought it in HO. AHM KO&G 40' Plug Door Boxcar #30011 This is a foob car. The actual prototype is a 50' plug door car. KO&G repainted just one of their 50' cars blue with a silver roof. Even though it is a foob car. I repainted the roof to match the prototype and I added a much better looking brake wheel. Using Tamiya paints I was able to mix up a perfect match to the blue for the brake wheel. It rides on Tahoe Model Works 50 ton trucks. I fit a much better Accurail underframe and installed Kadee couplers. KO&G_BOXCAR_30011 by Brian Banna, on Flickr Brian
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Post by riogrande on Aug 21, 2019 9:49:59 GMT -8
Nice looking foob!
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Post by brakie on Aug 22, 2019 3:59:34 GMT -8
Jim,I fully agree.. I wouldn't take either one of those great looking Foobs" to any club.. That's what BB and Roundhouse cars are for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 4:52:07 GMT -8
It is not really a club I run with. It is the Sipping and Switching Society of North Carolina. Modules are built to the same standards. Majority of us have our own modules we bring. Mine are currently in the being built stages. Two 8 footers with three more 8 footers planned and then a set of 6 footers for a coke and chemical plant. We set up a few times a year. My equipment is pretty much always in my care. When we are done. We pack up our things and go home. Cars are not left on the layout for anyone to use as in a normal club environment. We do not have a building were the modules are left in for people to come at anytime and operate in. The next setup will be this November at the Raleigh, NC fair grounds. Last year I think it was a 16,000 square foot layout. This year it will probably be about the same. The layout is growing with more modules being built each year. The scenery on each module is getting more and more completed each year as well and I can say, there are some modules that need to be retired. For the most part, the setup is quick and the operations are fairly flawless. If you want to see what some of the modules look like. This a a good friend of mine that lives a couple miles from me. Jeff Patterson. He models the Grand trunk. He has about 50 or so modules built that are ready for track and maybe 10 that have track on them. His track laying and scenery work is magnificent. Another good friend (Randy) that lives about a mile from me has some excellent modules. Probably about 60' or more. I have loads of support when it comes to building my modules and getting the scenery done. GTJeff gtwflintsub.blogspot.com/p/trowbridge_17.html?showComment=1475102289678Brian
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 5:06:34 GMT -8
The way Brian's club designs their modules is also very interesting. Everything is neat and professional looking. The modules are designed to travel well; they have fold up legs on them with wheels to aid in setup.
These cars will blend in nicely with a local freight on those layouts. The Sipping and Switching group in all areas is a very talented group of modelers.
The Ohio Sipping and Switching group comes to the STL RPM; Their layout is one of the first that I visit. Even if they are just running them around the layout...it's large enough to allow them to run extremely long trains and break in new equipment.
The Freemo layouts likewise peak my interest...as they are professionally built scenes often based on prototype locations...I love to go to the large shows and see these types of layouts...The time an effort put into both module groups is to be commended. They put on excellent exhibitions and enjoy their work while doing it.
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Post by riogrande on Aug 22, 2019 5:19:48 GMT -8
What is the difference between a club and a society?
What do they sip when they switch, and do they actually sip?
Vexing questions!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 5:26:35 GMT -8
I think they sip...and switch...but while on duty only soft drinks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 5:28:34 GMT -8
What is the difference between a club and a society? What do they sip when they switch, and do they actually sip? Vexing questions! There is no structure. Meaning no president or board members. No dues to pay. You show up. Help setup or tear down. That is it. They really do not sip anything during the show. Maybe an Ice tea or soda. It is just a name. Brian
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Post by riogrande on Aug 22, 2019 5:42:53 GMT -8
So they just use the force and it all works. Is that all you need to make a club work. Make an un-club!
Gotta stay hydrated. Guess the connotation if true would require too many designated drivers. My wife, a Brit, always wonders how I can drink ice tea. To her it's just wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 5:57:15 GMT -8
The group has four designated setups per year. First late winter/ early spring in Wilmington, NC. Second is late spring early summer in Denver, NC. Third is summer at the YMCA in Goldsboro, NC. I think the group raised almost $600.00 for the YMCA from visitors donating. The fourth is fall at the Raleigh, NC train show. One person volunteers to be in charge. That is the person who secures the facility to setup in. Someone in the group has a database with all the modules in it. One member is really good at designing the layout and about a month or so before the setup, they get a confirmation on what modules will be available. then teh layout design is done. Everyone shows up on setup day and in a few hours the layout is up and running. That is pretty much it.
Brian
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Post by lvrr325 on Aug 22, 2019 18:48:58 GMT -8
I mean are AHM and Train Miniature cars really that different from Athearn BB cars?
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Post by snootie3257 on Aug 23, 2019 3:47:47 GMT -8
I mean are AHM and Train Miniature cars really that different from Athearn BB cars? IMO no. Some are worse depending on which one you’re talking about. It’s been a long time since I’ve had an AHM or Train Miniature but I do remember the ones I had and the trucks and the way they mounted on the AHM ones sucked. At least the ones I had. All mine have been history since the late 70s early 80s. Train Miniatures a little longer. I still have Athearn bb cars yet. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 4:35:48 GMT -8
I mean are AHM and Train Miniature cars really that different from Athearn BB cars? No, not really. But Steve is correct about TM cars. The whole underframe, trucks and the way the couplers mount is horrible. I toss all that and fit Accurail frames and Tahoe Model Works trucks. Pretty much the same for AHM cars. For the AHM covered hoppers I have to rebuild the bolsters. With the recent E&B Valley covered hopper I cut all the the brake gear out and added Accurail brake gear. The category of Club Runner cars I look for though are pretty much all the same. I try to keep things uniform and not mix the high end cars with the low end cars. Athearn BB, Walthers Mainline, Atlas Trainman, Accurail (my favorite), AHM, Train Miniature and the like are what I am interested in. It is an enjoyable challenge for me to clean these cars up, match the paint and weather them. Turn them into a decent representation of the prototype. The one thing I like that Athearn did with their BB boxcars is change the door out. Mold it in place. The old BB sliding door was terrible with those grappling hook door rollers. Brian
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Post by craigz on Aug 23, 2019 5:03:47 GMT -8
The group has four designated setups per year. First late winter/ early spring in Wilmington, NC. Second is late spring early summer in Denver, NC. Third is summer at the YMCA in Goldsboro, NC. I think the group raised almost $600.00 for the YMCA from visitors donating. The fourth is fall at the Raleigh, NC train show. One person volunteers to be in charge. That is the person who secures the facility to setup in. Someone in the group has a database with all the modules in it. One member is really good at designing the layout and about a month or so before the setup, they get a confirmation on what modules will be available. then teh layout design is done. Everyone shows up on setup day and in a few hours the layout is up and running. That is pretty much it. Brian Well...as a 25+ year participant (hard to be a 'member' when there's no club and no members...) there's been as many as six and as few as three set up a year; really depends on where large space is available. The big one's coming in November in Raleigh NC where we'll be upwards of 14,000 sq ft of floor space of modules and 1000+ ft of double train main line for continuous running, plus who knows many more hundreds of feet of secondary trackage. We run 35-40 amps of NCE command stations and radio with JMRI to allow use of wifi throttles. It works and it works REALLY well. We do everything the 'experts' say can't be done. No bridge tracks over the module frontiers/joints. No height adjustment on the legs. Extensive though not exclusive use of code 70 and 55 rail. Lightweight construction. No club structure. No officers. No dues. No 'club' property. Yet somehow we'll all get together Friday beginning at lunchtime before the Raleigh show, unload a thousand linear feet of modules, get them connected, and have stuff running before supper. It works and it works well. Yes, it takes longer to build modules to these high standards; this build time is saved in spades by quick set ups and reliable running qualities. And if you think I'm exaggerating....come to Raleigh and see it. I dare ya
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Post by riogrande on Aug 23, 2019 6:12:24 GMT -8
Four hours to Raleigh. Hmmm...
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Post by brakie on Aug 23, 2019 6:34:28 GMT -8
I mean are AHM and Train Miniature cars really that different from Athearn BB cars? Considering BB and Roundhouse cars are like Timex watches.. They can take beating and keep on ticking. Some AHM cars looks far better the some BB cars.. Train Miniature cars was consider top line period cars back in the day and can still take their place along side of Accurail wooden cars. We didn't have any issues with the coupler box.. Like the BB coupler box a 2-56 screw works wonders. There is a S&S Society in the Cleveland area. They had a very nice sit up at one of the train shows I attended in the Cleveland area.
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Post by gevohogger on Aug 23, 2019 6:45:10 GMT -8
I had assumed the "sipping" part meant they had a well-stocked cooler full of adult beverages. Way to bust that bubble...
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Post by riogrande on Aug 23, 2019 6:53:26 GMT -8
or take a lickin and keep on tickin. Some of my MDC box cars, the truck screw they came with is really too small. I've run them at modular meets and the truck falls off. It's on the to-do list to put a bigger screw or maybe CA the one it came with. I had assumed the "sipping" part meant they had a well-stocked cooler full of adult beverages. Way to bust that bubble... One would think so, but I guess at public gatherings, an such "sipping" would have to be done on the sly. I've always found those kind of "club names" or whatever they are, to be amusing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 9:24:04 GMT -8
or take a lickin and keep on tickin. Some of my MDC box cars, the truck screw they came with is really too small. I've run them at modular meets and the truck falls off. It's on the to-do list to put a bigger screw or maybe CA the one it came with. I had assumed the "sipping" part meant they had a well-stocked cooler full of adult beverages. Way to bust that bubble... One would think so, but I guess at public gatherings, an such "sipping" would have to be done on the sly. I've always found those kind of "club names" or whatever they are, to be amusing. I have no idea why the sipping is in the name. I have never seen anyone doing any such thing. Probably just a humorous twist. As for the switching. Not as much of that goes on either. Maybe a half dozen folks do any sort of switching. No matter. It is loads of fun with the group. Brian
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Post by riogrande on Aug 23, 2019 9:39:01 GMT -8
I've seen portable layout groups with Sipping and Switching in the name at train shows - not sure if was always the same group or a naming trend that repeats.
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Post by brakie on Aug 23, 2019 9:44:48 GMT -8
Brian, I goofed up! I just recalled the S&S Society is in Cincinnati, not Cleveland. The S&S Society was displaying at the NTS in Cleveland.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 7:15:50 GMT -8
The next car in my series is CSRX #5022. Yes, this is a proto-freelance model. BAck when I lived in Phoenix, AZ I came up with this railroad. It was a modern era railroad and I do not like to model modern era. I am a late 1960's to mid 1970's era fan. I had to find a way to bring it back in time so I came up with the idea that before the Copper State Railway was a full fledged railroad, it was a leasing company with a variety of boxcars. The logo is from a custom decal sheet I had made for my locomotives. I threw this one on there as a test and it worked out well for the boxcars. The rest of the lettering is pieced together from Microscale sheets. I have two of these cars. This car #5022 and the second #5037. I'll get started on weathering #5037 today. I'll try a different approach in order to vary the look of the cars. CSRX_BOXCAR_5022_01 by Brian Banna, on Flickr CSRX_BOXCAR_5022_02 by Brian Banna, on Flickr Brian
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 4:51:23 GMT -8
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Post by brakie on Sept 5, 2019 17:45:33 GMT -8
Brian, Those four boxcars are mighty sweet looking cars. The tank car looks great. As far as the Baby Ruth car.. I'm shock to see a modeler of your caliber having one But, let me be honest. I'm very bias against such cars so, that weighs in heavily even though the weathering makes it look decent..
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