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Post by trainboyy on Sept 2, 2022 8:33:36 GMT -8
These cars are available for preorder on September 10th. Same model as the Athearn cars, which will probably be out next year. Not in my era but... just wow. These samples are insane...    |
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Post by talltim on Sept 2, 2022 8:38:52 GMT -8
They do look nice, far too modern for me but tempting as models in their own right. Which is wired considering they are basically a reinforced box! See they’ve been testing them with a Chinese loco.
A prototype question, I notice that the side/end plates are cut away just below the top chord in the corners. I’ve noticed this feature on new British gons too, anyone know why this is done?
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Post by nstophat on Sept 2, 2022 9:32:09 GMT -8
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Post by stevef45 on Sept 2, 2022 9:58:44 GMT -8
Hopefully the price is right on them. Im definitely in for a bunch.
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Post by middledivision on Sept 2, 2022 10:07:06 GMT -8
I'd wager north of $50
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Post by stevef45 on Sept 2, 2022 10:11:26 GMT -8
Maybe just 1 or 2 then lol |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 2, 2022 11:21:27 GMT -8
Wow! I see they're actual models instead of "renderings".
And flawless assembly quality!
Ed
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Post by mvlandsw on Sept 2, 2022 13:42:52 GMT -8
A prototype question, I notice that the side/end plates are cut away just below the top chord in the corners. I’ve noticed this feature on new British gons too, anyone know why this is done? The cut away allows for a pivoting pin connected corner joint rather than a rigid connection that would break if stressed too much. I believe this was first used on Trailer Train's Railgons around 1980. |
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Post by markfj on Sept 2, 2022 16:32:36 GMT -8
A price of $50 seems reasonable for a car done to this level of detail. When you consider that Bowser is selling 80s tooled RTR hopper near $30, the higher price for this hopper gets you a lot of value for the money. Yes, $50 is a lot of money for a hopper car, but I’m getting close to that price when I add Kadee couplers and better wheels (if not complete replacement trucks) to lesser quality hoppers like the Bowser cars. And the upgraded car still has molded grabirons, no trainline or hoses, no brake air lines, and crude or absent hopper door details.
Hope these sell well!
Thanks, Mark
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Post by nsfantodd on Sept 2, 2022 17:05:44 GMT -8
Look really good to me. Never seen them in the area I model, so I'll have to try to find A way to justify them.
I like to support anyone who produces a high quality model by purchasing a couple. If successful the next model they produce might be something I need😁
Looks like some new scale couplers also?
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Post by Canadian Atlantic on Sept 2, 2022 17:10:54 GMT -8
Very nice looking cars. How are they unloaded, dumper or scooped out?
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Post by Mr. Trainiac on Sept 2, 2022 17:39:22 GMT -8
Very nice looking cars. How are they unloaded, dumper or scooped out? These are not rotary cars. The NSC website calls them MSW/C&D gondolas (Municipal Solid Waste/Construction & Demolition). That means they are basically scrap gons. They can be scooped out as you said, although electromagnet cranes work for ferrous scrap. I see them around sometimes, so I'm happy they are getting modeled. The Walthers high-side 'woodchip' gondolas are starting to look a bit tired and outdated, I'm glad we are getting a modern scrap car replacement. A scrap yard is an easy industry to model and doesn't take up a lot of space. It's a good filler for an urban scene or for a corner of a layout. You don't need a unit train, one or two gondolas will be fine, so even if these OVR cars are a bit expensive, you only need to get one or two. |
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Post by hovehicle on Sept 2, 2022 19:25:45 GMT -8
Same model as what Athearn car? Not even close to what Athearn has in their lineup.
Vito L.
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Post by simulatortrain on Sept 2, 2022 19:27:45 GMT -8
Can't use any of these, but if I could, they'd all be Otter Valley. No contest looking at the two.
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Post by hovehicle on Sept 2, 2022 19:32:34 GMT -8
OK, I just saw the announcement, so I stand corrected. My apology to the original poster. A good choice for a model and now we need construction and debris loads!
Vito L.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 2, 2022 19:57:21 GMT -8
Could y'all calm down a bit.
WHO is making this model? Please provide a link to the manufacturerer.
What is it a model of? What railroads and what series numbers?
What is the connection to Athearn? What does it mean: "No contest looking at the two."
The "two" what?
From what I am seeing, this model, as excellent as it is, is useless to me.
But, then, there's almost no information.
Ed
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Sept 3, 2022 0:19:27 GMT -8
Ed, Athearn has announced the same car.
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Post by stevef45 on Sept 3, 2022 5:09:12 GMT -8
Same model as what Athearn car? Not even close to what Athearn has in their lineup. Vito L. Athearn announced there's yesterday too on facebook. Not on the website yet. Same exact car. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 3, 2022 5:45:31 GMT -8
Could y'all calm down a bit. WHO is making this model? Please provide a link to the manufacturerer. What is it a model of? What railroads and what series numbers? What is the connection to Athearn? What does it mean: "No contest looking at the two." The "two" what? From what I am seeing, this model, as excellent as it is, is useless to me. But, then, there's almost no information. Ed OK. Athearn. I was also interested in the prototype. I don't recall seeing it before. Some research turns up that they appear to be all privately owned. And the earliest date I find is 2012. I see that a string of AIMX cars went through Vancouver WA in 2019. AIMX being American Iron and Metal Company, I'm assuming a batch of scrap metal. Interesting. I might find that I DO want some after all. But it still gets me scratching my head over why THIS car. Ed |
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Post by 690 on Sept 3, 2022 6:04:01 GMT -8
Could y'all calm down a bit. WHO is making this model? Please provide a link to the manufacturerer. What is it a model of? What railroads and what series numbers? What is the connection to Athearn? What does it mean: "No contest looking at the two." The "two" what? From what I am seeing, this model, as excellent as it is, is useless to me. But, then, there's almost no information. Ed OK. Athearn. I was also interested in the prototype. I don't recall seeing it before. Some research turns up that they appear to be all privately owned. And the earliest date I find is 2012. I see that a string of AIMX cars went through Vancouver WA in 2019. AIMX being American Iron and Metal Company, I'm assuming a batch of scrap metal. Interesting. I might find that I DO want some after all. But it still gets me scratching my head over why THIS car. Ed It's an extremely common car, especially in the northeast. AIMX itself has hundreds of them (maybe even a few thousand), along with various other owners. |
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Post by stevef45 on Sept 3, 2022 7:08:47 GMT -8
Could y'all calm down a bit. WHO is making this model? Please provide a link to the manufacturerer. What is it a model of? What railroads and what series numbers? What is the connection to Athearn? What does it mean: "No contest looking at the two." The "two" what? From what I am seeing, this model, as excellent as it is, is useless to me. But, then, there's almost no information. Ed OK. Athearn. I was also interested in the prototype. I don't recall seeing it before. Some research turns up that they appear to be all privately owned. And the earliest date I find is 2012. I see that a string of AIMX cars went through Vancouver WA in 2019. AIMX being American Iron and Metal Company, I'm assuming a batch of scrap metal. Interesting. I might find that I DO want some after all. But it still gets me scratching my head over why THIS car. Ed This car is all over the Northeast. Cardella Waste Services (CWSX) These are painted green compared to everyone elses grey or off grey. Oak Ridge (OAKX) Waste Management, just started seeing these MWCX is a reporting mark and gets loaded in Jersey City, NJ |
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Post by 12bridge on Sept 3, 2022 7:49:36 GMT -8
These cars pretty much replaced the hoards of beat to death former coal and woodchip cars that were the backbone of this service for almost 20 years. These cars carry Construction & Demolition debris, a large commodity pretty much out of the Northeast only.
A common misconception is that this is ordinary household garbage - it is not, that stuff has to be shipped in sealed containers/cars.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 3, 2022 7:55:32 GMT -8
Ah, more garbage cars. Atlas did some, too.
The garbage trains through my area tend to be BNSF and TTX 48' well cars filled with, you guessed it, 48' garbage containers. So neither the Atlas nor the Athearn help me there. Plus: I'm not enamored with building a garbage train in the first place. Probably the LAST unit train I'd want to assemble. Romance-of-the-rails, and all that. Also why graffiti is absent on my railroad.
However. If those prototype cars I mentioned were hauling scrap metal, I can definitely see getting three and filling them with.....
Ed
PS:
12bridge got his post in ahead of mine. I believe I've seen construction debris in "my" trains too. Rather than in stacked 48's, it'll be single stacks, and often smaller. Even some "regular" debris boxes, sometimes.
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Post by lvrr325 on Sept 3, 2022 8:33:20 GMT -8
What, you mean you don't want to model a garbage load out of.. garbage? No sound on these but you could model the smell
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 3, 2022 8:43:50 GMT -8
I have stood on a bridge right over "my" garbage trains as they pass under, and didn't catch much of a smell, if any. Not entirely a disappointment, really.
Ed
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Post by 690 on Sept 3, 2022 8:53:59 GMT -8
The AIMX cars are for scrap service.
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Post by runs2waynoka on Sept 3, 2022 9:25:06 GMT -8
There is a a nearly identical but slightly larger version with end dump doors for cottonseed service, it is very common in the west. Hopefully one of them does that body, the blue CASX cars are really neat. I’m guessing Athearn will do a show about these soon that will tell more details of what variants they are doing.
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Post by cajonfun on Sept 4, 2022 14:01:48 GMT -8
This the first of 6 new freight cars, we are working on.
We have tooled v2, v3 and v4 of the NSC 6400s.
We will be announcing 12 paint schemes, pricing and sales packs on the 10th.
We have our Manufacturers Pop Up Event at our retail store/warehouse, September 10th from 10am to 4pm.
If you are near the Southern Ontario area of Tillsonburg, please join us. We will have Sylvan, Rapido, Mini Prints, Aurora, Intermountain, OVRTrains Private Label and more!
Take care and thanks for the support.
Lorne James, Otter Valley Railroad.
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Post by 690 on Sept 4, 2022 14:30:30 GMT -8
This the first of 6 new freight cars, we are working on. We have tooled v2, v3 and v4 of the NSC 6400s. We will be announcing 12 paint schemes, pricing and sales packs on the 10th. We have our Manufacturers Pop Up Event at our retail store/warehouse, September 10th from 10am to 4pm. If you are near the Southern Ontario area of Tillsonburg, please join us. We will have Sylvan, Rapido, Mini Prints, Aurora, Intermountain, OVRTrains Private Label and more! Take care and thanks for the support. Lorne James, Otter Valley Railroad. These look fantastic, hopefully one of the other cars you're working on is something I can use, these are sadly too new for me. |
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Post by kpack on Sept 4, 2022 18:07:57 GMT -8
I'm sure I could use a couple. Looks excellent. And I'm happy to support a smaller/new company.
Six new cars you say? Might one of them be a Gunderson reefer with a modern rebuild, CRYX style? Or the legendary Greenbrier BNSF 82' reefer? Either one of those and my life will be complete.
Kevin
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