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Post by wagnersteve on Feb 2, 2023 16:19:36 GMT -8
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think by the time the Santa Fe used the livery the Scale Trains Kit Classic ATSF cabooses will come in -- and certainly by the time they'd been given new numbers starting with 999 -- their windows had been modernized as shown in the photo theengineshed posted. Mr. Trainiac's comments are also correct. The forthcoming ST cars certainly don't match CP vans. I'm less impressed by them than by the ST Kit Classic versions of 40' reefers and especially of offset quad hoppers.
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Post by Mr. Trainiac on Feb 2, 2023 19:18:23 GMT -8
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think by the time the Santa Fe used the livery the Scale Trains Kit Classic ATSF cabooses will come in -- and certainly by the time they'd been given new numbers starting with 999 -- their windows had been modernized as shown in the photo theengineshed posted. Mr. Trainiac's comments are also correct. The forthcoming ST cars certainly don't match CP vans. I'm less impressed by them than by the ST Kit Classic versions of 40' reefers and especially of offset quad hoppers. I found this article on the CE-1 class: atsf.railfan.net/waycars/ce1.html Sounds like the repaint and window modifications happened at the same time. The roofs were originally black, so the Scaletrains scheme is from the late 1970's: red roof, wheel dot (1978), 2-panel COTS (1974). Here are all three schemes offered by Scaletrains: all have modified windows rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4975195rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4975203rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4975208 (lead caboose) If I was Scaletrains, I would have chosen numbers from CE-3 class (999600+) A good number of those cars kept all their windows. I don't know what class of cabooses these were rebuilt from, but they look a lot like the model. For a basic kit car, it probably would have been 'close enough.' rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4990701 |
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Feb 2, 2023 23:44:55 GMT -8
The color of the CP caboose from Scale Trains is... odd? The colour is the least of your worries. |
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Post by cemr5396 on Feb 3, 2023 8:41:10 GMT -8
The color of the CP caboose from Scale Trains is... odd? The colour is the least of your worries. they could have at least attempted to get it the right color. That's got to be one of the worst color matches I've ever seen on a model. |
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Post by sd40dash2 on Feb 3, 2023 8:50:48 GMT -8
The colour is the least of your worries. they could have at least attempted to get it the right color. That's got to be one of the worst color matches I've ever seen on a model. LOL. It looks to me like the photo was taken in late-day, weak sunlight. I bet the actual colour is closer.
OR maybe they used a colour sample or photo from rusted and aged action yellow on a current caboose survivor, then photographed it in low, late-day light.
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Post by cp6027 on Feb 3, 2023 9:47:24 GMT -8
The color of the CP caboose from Scale Trains is... odd? The colour is the least of your worries. Haha I suppose so! CP Action Yellow does seem to be rather sensitive to lighting conditions, looking very orangish in late-day shots as others have noted. I suppose UP modellers often face the same thing with UP Armour Yellow. |
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Post by gevohogger on Feb 3, 2023 11:25:14 GMT -8
The colour is the least of your worries. Haha I suppose so! CP Action Yellow does seem to be rather sensitive to lighting conditions, looking very orangish in late-day shots as others have noted. I suppose UP modellers often face the same thing with UP Armour Yellow.In recent years, though, that color has increasingly more and more resembled the color of dirt! |
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Post by richardthomasatal on Feb 3, 2023 15:25:21 GMT -8
I think it will be a great budget item and maybe even something for someone to practice weathering on or park in a yard and make look great!
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Post by lvrr325 on Feb 3, 2023 15:36:22 GMT -8
I wish I'd saved the picture I saw on Facebook the other day. Apparently one UP GE had a major engine failure. As a result the engine behind it was completely black with oil. Had the look of a model painted with six thick coats of Testors enamel. But it would make getting the yellow correct a lot easier.
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Post by whiterosehobbies on Feb 18, 2023 17:40:04 GMT -8
I think the Scaletrains/MTH caboose does a few things better than the Athearn, but a few things worse as well. The ladders look better and mount in a more prototypical manner. The Athearn ladders are one piece and don't attach to the roof. On the actual car, the ladder mounts to the roof and the taller railings are a separate piece like the Scaletrains model. The car sides also look thinner. The Athearn model has noticeably recessed windows, while the Scaletrains tooling has the window frame more flush with the car sides. I think the one big flaw with the Scaletrains caboose is the lack of window glass. The model shown at the beginning of the thread just has open windows, and I don't see mention of glass on the product features tab on their website. Adding it isn't that difficult, but I think a molded clear window piece would look a bit better than a clear acetate sheet installed behind the window. I have confirmed with them that there will not be any window glass... |
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Post by el3672 on Feb 20, 2023 21:52:22 GMT -8
Aside from all the cupola caboose chatter, Been Licking my chops on the
depressed flat arrival.
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Post by grabirons on Feb 21, 2023 1:02:13 GMT -8
How exactly would one go about doing their own window glass for this model then? I'm sure somebody will offer a kit cut in acrylic and it will raise the overall price. And then you start getting into the territory of walther's Main Line Caboose where you can get that at a discount at about what the price of the scale trains Caboose will cost, Mainline model at least has dimples for grabs and other parts. I kind of wish they would have gone that route but scale trains can't because those models already have existing molded on parts so they can't probably retool it or can't have the option to put those separate parts on if you want it. I wish they would just continually release more rbls in different paint schemes there's so many that can be done just like their sd40-2.
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Post by lvrr325 on Feb 23, 2023 7:30:08 GMT -8
The box probably comes with a clear window in the front. Cut it up and glue it inside the shell.
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Post by gevohogger on Feb 23, 2023 8:11:38 GMT -8
The box probably comes with a clear window in the front. Cut it up and glue it inside the shell. Thus beating Arrowhead at their own game! |
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Post by packer on Feb 23, 2023 11:25:45 GMT -8
The box probably comes with a clear window in the front. Cut it up and glue it inside the shell. We’ve gone from “what’s in the box” to “use the box” |
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Post by hudsonyard on Feb 23, 2023 16:00:26 GMT -8
using the plastic from the box as window glazing is truly living up to the name "kit classics"
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Post by wagnersteve on Feb 24, 2023 4:43:18 GMT -8
2/24/2023, starting about 7:30 a.m., EST, with interruptions before posting
hudsonyard's post above reminded me of the source of the window screen I installed inside a structure that I built around 1960 from a Revell kit for a yard office or engine crew's shanty, which was based on the same main casting first used in that firm's ready-to-run work car converted from a double-sheathed boxcar, which may have been sold as a track cleaning car. It was a small piece of a nylon stocking my mother had discarded, which I painted black. The window it's in faces the aisle of my small layout. Visible through it is the head of a railroad worker, which was an unpainted part of that or another railroad kit. That casting was faulty, with one hand missing, so I used it where that wouldn't be visible; I'm not sure whether I painted the parts of the figure that don't show through the screened window.
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