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Post by lvrr325 on Feb 1, 2024 12:51:17 GMT -8
I suspected these were priced too high and passed on them, looks like that was the right choice since people are blowing them out below cost. I accidentally bought two of a 4650 hopper and the dupe was a sales dud. Probably doesn't help it was a leftover from two runs back.
Based on the logo, Citco is in some way related to Citgo.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 1, 2024 14:00:35 GMT -8
OK. Yes, you're right. I was thrown off by the lettering on the logo panel: CITCO. When I looked up Citco, I got that investment company. Looking back at the ORER, it is indeed a Cities Service operation. CSPX is the reporting mark for the chemicals group, and it appears to be called Citco, rather than Citgo. So perhaps they replace the "G" (which might stand for gas) with "C" (which likely stands for chemical). There is also shown a minerals group, with 433 tank cars. Perhaps their logo shows CITMO*. Anyway, the CSPX entry has a group of 5250's (5200-5258) and another (5259-7085). Total car count is 732. Around 1982-1983, it APPEARS Cities Service was broken up, with Occidental Petroleum buying the non-petroleum parts, and the petroleum parts going to Southland. So it would appear Occidental "got" the 5250's. HOWEVER, in '84 and '85 ORER's, there are no 5250's listed for Occidental. I am going to guess that the Citco 5250's were returned to ACF to lease out to someone else. Ed *I DID find a photo of one of the "mineral" cars, but there's no logo on it: www.flickr.com/photos/hunter1828/5303754761/in/pool-420201@N24/ |
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Post by riogrande on Feb 1, 2024 14:19:00 GMT -8
What really sucks is we have wanted a HQ replacement for the old Athearn 5250 and when it finally comes, it's priced in the stratosphere. And to make matters worse, Atlas fumbles out of the gate with the first run.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 1, 2024 14:46:13 GMT -8
What I would prefer is a HO replacement for the old AHM 5250. THAT one had a high brakewheel. And THAT one is the GN/BN one.
Ed
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Post by drsvelte on Feb 1, 2024 17:36:33 GMT -8
What really sucks is we have wanted a HQ replacement for the old Athearn 5250 and when it finally comes, it's priced in the stratosphere. And to make matters worse, Atlas fumbles out of the gate with the first run. Chill. The new 5250s are available from a number of vendors at reasonable prices, anywhere from $46 down to $29. |
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Post by riogrande on Feb 2, 2024 2:13:59 GMT -8
What really sucks is we have wanted a HQ replacement for the old Athearn 5250 and when it finally comes, it's priced in the stratosphere. And to make matters worse, Atlas fumbles out of the gate with the first run. Chill. The new 5250s are available from a number of vendors at reasonable prices, anywhere from $46 down to $29. Did you miss my earlier comment where I bought one at deep discount? |
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Post by buffalobill on Feb 2, 2024 4:19:56 GMT -8
Ed:
Cities Service shut down its high density polyethylene business in about 1983, and sold off its owned car fleet. It was mostly 5250's. The polyethylene business, particularly the film market was moving to linear low density resins.
Bill
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Post by wagnersteve on Feb 2, 2024 5:52:43 GMT -8
Groundhog Day, starting 8:46 a.m., EST, substantially revised by 8:56 after a little Internet research
Cities Service rebranded itself as CITGO in 1965, while I was an undergraduate in Ohio. Its original name always reminded me of a public utility, which it wasn't. The green and white Cities Service signs shaped like a clover leaf had been familiar in the Northeastern USA. Ironically, the big neon GITGO sign, mostly red and orange with some blue, which must have been put up in Boston's Kenmore Square, close to both Fenway Park and the eastern part of Boston University, about the same time, quickly became iconic in the Boston area, though when it was first put up it was far from the most spectacular animated neon sign in that location. That was, hands down, the White Fuel sign, advertising a local dealer in heating oil for homes, which featured a oil well gusher. In recent years the major owner of CITGO has been the state-owned oil company in Venezuela which, however, is not making money from it because of US sanctions against that country's government. The US operation is headquartered in Houston or its immediate area, but apparently it also has a unit in Bartlesville, Oklahoma, which was the original home of Phillips 66, named after the US highway linking Chicago with California.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Feb 2, 2024 6:47:13 GMT -8
Ed: Cities Service shut down its high density polyethylene business in about 1983, and sold off its owned car fleet. It was mostly 5250's. The polyethylene business, particularly the film market was moving to linear low density resins. Bill Thanks, Bill Ed |
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