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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Sept 5, 2023 17:31:56 GMT -8
For those interested; The HO 40ft Drop Frame Trailers that Trainworx announced in October 2020 won't be out until February 2024 if then per Pat Sanders @tw. This is crazy. I mean wth, How can ScaleTrains, Tangent, and others get their products from Announcement to Production to Stores in a decent fashion but not Spring Mills Depot, Trainworx, Intermountain, and Atlas?
 TRAINWORX by Matt Fisher, on Flickr
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Post by jonklein611 on Sept 6, 2023 4:37:07 GMT -8
It depends highly on the factory they are going through and what priority they have. COVID also has a tremendous impact on things in China.
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Post by prr 4467 on Sept 6, 2023 9:18:47 GMT -8
Factories which are mostly shared with other importers have production windows that can be difficult to schedule. The "bigger" clients probably get more say in when their window occurs. In the case of Arrowhead, they did not receive completely acceptable product quality from whatever factory they were using, and some covered hoppers (including my order for CNW yellow hoppers) subsequently got returned for full refund. Arrowhead gave me my money back with no hassles whatsoever; they also informed me they were switching to another factory, which unfortunately will cost them time with future releases. That is all I know about that.
We don't know if Trainworx saw and approved the samples for those trailers or not yet, do we? That is one fair question. Did they somehow find out that changes were required?
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Post by Frank on Sept 6, 2023 13:13:17 GMT -8
Train-Worx has always taken a while to deliver, this does not seem too unusual. Their focus is mainly N scale anyway, yes?
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Post by cera2254 on Sept 6, 2023 13:32:57 GMT -8
I guess I had missed these, guess I’ll have to preorder some!
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Post by hudsonyard on Sept 6, 2023 14:40:05 GMT -8
Be nice if someone did the B85 flats so we wouldn't have to wait for the possibility TW might throw everyone a bone in HO.
the trailers are super nice i'll give them that, i just wish i had them in my hand sooner.
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Post by ed on Sept 7, 2023 5:25:44 GMT -8
I wonder how many foobie paint schemes are among the pending drop frame trailers. The drop frame trailers were not nearly as common as other 40' trailers, either.
I'd be happy to have more of the Athearn 40' ribbed trailers. I remember more of that type from back in the 1960s.
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Post by lvrr325 on Sept 7, 2023 7:44:18 GMT -8
The LV videos I got to research cars I saw quite a few drop frames, enough that I should have several in every train.
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Post by riogrande on Sept 7, 2023 8:06:02 GMT -8
I wonder how many foobie paint schemes are among the pending drop frame trailers. The drop frame trailers were not nearly as common as other 40' trailers, either. I'm pretty sure the Rio Grande drop frame is a foobie; at least the ones in my Color Guide shows a D&RGW 45' drop frame, no 40 footers. I plan on getting on anyway as a standin. I am not sure about the others. As pointed out above, drop frames were common enough that they were seen in most TOFC block. I've found some photos on the D&RGW as evidence. |
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Post by prr 4467 on Sept 7, 2023 8:20:44 GMT -8
I was not aware that TW did any foobies at all? So far as I know the few of them that I've purchased have been correct models of real trailers that actually existed?
In that era especially many trailers only lasted in over the road service for 7 years or so, so it is possible that some were very rarely photographed.
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Sept 7, 2023 14:39:20 GMT -8
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Post by ed on Sept 9, 2023 7:20:27 GMT -8
The LV videos I got to research cars I saw quite a few drop frames, enough that I should have several in every train. From the Penn Central era TOFC train videos and photos I've observed taken in Massachusetts, there were NO drop frame trailers to be seen. As with any subject, YMMV. |
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Sept 9, 2023 16:40:20 GMT -8
I wonder how many foobie paint schemes are among the pending drop frame trailers. The drop frame trailers were not nearly as common as other 40' trailers, either. I'm pretty sure the Rio Grande drop frame is a foobie; at least the ones in my Color Guide shows a D&RGW 45' drop frame, no 40 footers. I plan on getting on anyway as a standin. I am not sure about the others. As pointed out above, drop frames were common enough that they were seen in most TOFC block. I've found some photos on the D&RGW as evidence. You can't always go by Morning Sun Books color guides as they miss a lot of stuff because lack of decent photos. Case in point are the Penn Central 40' Drop Frames. there are no pictures in either MSB Penn Central Color Guides even though they had them. |
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Post by riogrande on Sept 9, 2023 19:10:21 GMT -8
You can't always go by Morning Sun Books color guides as they miss a lot of stuff because lack of decent photos. I am aware of that. So I will rephrase, the Rio Grande drop frame may be a foobie. The only picture I have found so far is a 45' drop frame. That said, I still plan to buy a TW Rio Grande drop frame. Either it will be a stand in or maybe a copy of a real trailer. |
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Post by Frank on Sept 10, 2023 13:32:16 GMT -8
I have a May 1970 copy of the OIER. By this publication date, Realco was already managing the vast majority of the drop deck trailer fleets for the railroads. As was tradition, they would take railroad owned trailers, refurbish them, then lease them back to the railroad or into a pooled service. To that end, these rebuilt drop decks seem to take on Realco numbers in random 200000 series. Also, I saw 0 drop deck listed for DRGW.. Some of these may have entered service after 1970 though.
The OIER also lists what these trailers were specifically set up for. Categories for drop deck trailers include explosives, glass, Sears merchandise only, water heaters only, freezers, siding products / wallboard, furniture, finished paper cans, Nabisco products, and garments. Some were specially tandem locked for West Coast service only. Lots had the smaller Webb 3 spoke wheels.
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Post by riogrande on Sept 10, 2023 13:37:49 GMT -8
Regarding Rio Grande drop frames, the only one I have a reference for is pictured in Jim Eagers Rio Grande Color guide on page 65. Caption reads:
"RGTZ 200145 Z 200199 series
This 45 foot hi-cube drop-frame dry van was built by Great Dane and wore an even large logo. It was also at Roper in July 1984.
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Post by cera2254 on Oct 2, 2024 8:12:58 GMT -8
I emailed Trainworx this morning to see what they were thinking on these trailers, and they informed me they think it will be February.
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Post by azrailfan on Oct 2, 2024 19:28:52 GMT -8
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Post by cera2254 on Oct 3, 2024 1:37:34 GMT -8
Trainworx told me yesterday they should be in sometime this coming February. |
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Oct 6, 2024 18:54:55 GMT -8
Trainworx told me yesterday they should be in sometime this coming February. Damn, they pushed them back again? Pat told me November or December. |
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