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Post by rrpolice on May 17, 2024 8:05:34 GMT -8
Topic cleaned up. 2 week time-out. Back to the topic at hand.
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Post by tony on Jun 1, 2024 6:38:29 GMT -8
I didn't see any explanation as to why/how the World's Largest & Best model train company, with company owned factory in country, using the most advanced technology ever created, using superior processes and procedures, fluently speaking the local language, was not able to create these parts.
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Post by middledivision on Jun 1, 2024 6:48:33 GMT -8
I hear sirens!
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Post by delta767332er on Aug 7, 2024 14:03:18 GMT -8
This is mind-blowing to me. The original fan design wasn't great. While providing all the feedback to the product designer who is no longer with them (starting to be a trend with Rapido!), the fan design was changed to a separate part design similar to Atlas's, but of course with alleged better fidelity. What came out of the redesign looked even worse. I provided this feedback that this was not going in the right direction, but waved the white flag when it was clear the ugly ship was going to sail, resigned to the fact that discerning proto modelers would likely need to replace the fans REGARDLESS of what Rapido did or didn't do, because mass-producing fans of an acceptable quality is something I think only one company would/could get right, and Tangent doesn't make engines. But now to watch this video and hear they've had some sort of ridiculous revelation at Springfield that the fans suck, when I've been saying this for over two years before any tooling was even cut, likely partly because they've parted ways with yet another product designer that was working on stuff that was exciting for CSX modelers, is bang-my-head-against-the wall frustrating. Relatedly, it's been a very difficult journey for even Dave himself to get Gordon's fan design produced and flowing again, and somehow now out of the blue Rapido is going to magically start putting "Cannon" fans on their mass-produced RTR models?!?! GMAFB. A modeler needs to have some quality time at the workbench to properly build a Cannon fan and get it properly cleaned up and installed and painted and looking good. Look at all the Cannon fans on models out there that are "flashy," installed wrong, glue-y, crooked, bolts missing, bent and crooked grill rings. And Rapido thinks their factory is just going to bippity-bopp make this happen, like why has no one ever thought of this before, duh?!?! Even if they pull off Cannon fans (which they won't), we'll still be left with the god-awful journal spring "window" that's gaping hole into a big black abyss of the netherworld. ............................. "You may have seen in our last newsletter and on social media we were really excited to announce the licensed Cannon & Co fans being included on the GP40 to improve our model even more. We had also added that this was causing a delay in the redesign for our GP38s to see if we could make it happen. Unfortunately, due to production timelines, we could not ensure these licensed fans are incorporated into the design, however we did improve them greatly — the biggest difference being that we could only get down to a 0.3mm phalange thickness rather than 0.2mm. We still believe these are an incredibly improved design and can't wait for you to get your hands on the real thing!" Oh look! Color me shocked. I revisited this thread to basically take my foot out of my mouth. (Or put it in?) Please see my new thread admitting that Rapido pulled off "Cannon" fans about as well as I would expect to be possible on an RTR engine. Kudos to Rapido and bad on me for my pessimism, even if it was based on past realities. |
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Post by delta767332er on Aug 9, 2024 12:17:32 GMT -8
Cross post from first impressions thread:
Regarding the fans, they used the dynamic fan motor shrouds for the radiators, also. Not sure if this was factory mistake, or more likely Rapido just chose to tool one version. Additionally, they twisted the fan blades the wrong way. Hope it's not too hot in your layout room!
(I wasn't looking THAT hard, but chose to remove the top half of the ring to reinstall after removing flash - factory assembly was pretty shoddy - and also for weathering; the gloss light grey paint they chose to paint the fan innards with is silly. I guess they wanted to show off that they didn't glue them, so you can enjoy the realism of them spinning around.....if you're the type that likes to blow on your trains to see that.)
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