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Post by James Ashley on Aug 6, 2024 11:15:04 GMT -8
Walthers August 2024 New Product Announcements
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dealers.walthers.com/forms/forms/August_2024_Walthers_New_Product_Announcement.pdfVideo:WalthersProto EMD GP35 Ph IIATSF, MILW, RF&P, Frisco, Rock Island, SP, and Undecs DCC/Sound: www.walthers.com/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?name=&sku=920-433**Standard DC: www.walthers.com/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?name=&sku=920-503**WalthersProto 67' Trinity 6351 cuft Covered Hopper
ADMX (plain), ADMX (leaf), Incrobrasa, Badger State Ethanol, CRDX, Midwest DDG, TILX (black), Vera Sun www.walthers.com/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?name=6351&sku=&manufacturer_name%5B%5D=18469WalthersMainline GE ES44AC BNSF, CN (ex Citirail), Ferromex, KSC, UP www.walthers.com/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?name=GEVO&sku=&manufacturer_name%5B%5D=18467WalthersMainline 72' ReeferUP/ARMN (high reporting marks), UP/ARMN (low reporting marks), BNSF, CEFX, CGFX, TILX, UP/ARMN (Cold Connect), UP/ARMN (Building America) www.walthers.com/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?name=72%27+modern&sku=&manufacturer_name%5B%5D=18467WalthersMainline Budd 85' Passenger CarsCP, PC, RI, VIA, ACL Walthers CornerstoneBlue Flag Kit www.walthers.com/catalog/product/view/id/487535/s/blue-flag-kit-kit/category/2/Brick Church (N scale) www.walthers.com/catalog/product/view/id/487527/s/brick-church-kit-933-3858/category/2/Flag Stop Station www.walthers.com/catalog/product/view/id/488193Milk Platform www.walthers.com/catalog/product/view/id/488195
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Post by edwardsutorik on Aug 6, 2024 11:54:55 GMT -8
RF&P GP35:
numberboards should be black on white
fuel tank shape is too "square", appearing to be of a greater capacity
Ed
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Post by timvanmersbergen on Aug 6, 2024 12:42:05 GMT -8
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Post by jeoffreythecat on Aug 6, 2024 13:00:35 GMT -8
RF&P GP35: numberboards should be black on white fuel tank shape is too "square", appearing to be of a greater capacity Ed Some of the photos on the fallenflags site make the numberboards look white on black, particularly when unlit. How they used those as examples rather than the overwhelming majority of black on white is a good question. Time for the RF&P HS members to crank out the emails to Walthers. [Updated in a later post after digging in the RF&P HS archives.] No need to flame Walthers. John |
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Post by 12bridge on Aug 6, 2024 13:03:20 GMT -8
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Post by jeoffreythecat on Aug 6, 2024 13:57:35 GMT -8
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Post by fr8kar on Aug 6, 2024 14:45:08 GMT -8
 Ooh, that GP35! Espee and Santa Fe for me, please. |
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Post by drolsen on Aug 6, 2024 16:27:04 GMT -8
RF&P GP35: numberboards should be black on white Ed, while nearly all photos show black on white, there are a couple that have white on black, like this photo from 1969, four years after it was built. A little hard to see on 131, but look at 133 in the back: www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1361039I’m not sure what timeframe those numberboards represent - probably as-delivered since the photo above is the first one in RRPA - but clearly it was a short period. Hard to argue with them doing the as-delivered scheme. Edit: Whoops! I guess my browser didn’t refresh, because I missed the two posts about this above. Dave |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Aug 6, 2024 16:30:23 GMT -8
So it looks like these Walthers RF&P GP35's will be good for 1969 (when they were renumbered) until a year or two later, when they got the new black on white numberboards.
If you model 1970, that's all very nice, indeed.
And then there's the fuel tank.
RF&P tended to run consists of the same model (NOT always, of course). So if you wanted to get a typical consist, you might get three (or four) of the same model and paint scheme done by one of the various manufacturers.
So far, I've got a set of GP40-2's, and two sets of GP40's, in different paint. Considering that I don't Officially model this (exceptionally wonderful) railroad, I'm expecting to slow down on the amassing.
I'll mention that in high school freshman English, I could look out the window and see the south end of Potomac Yard. It's a wonder I passed that class.
Ed
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Post by lvrr325 on Aug 6, 2024 16:41:45 GMT -8
The way the Rock used to mix up hood doors on shopped units, particularly GEs, a roIck Sland might have actually happened. |
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Aug 6, 2024 16:55:35 GMT -8
That Frisco GP35 looks great. The Blue Flags are cool too!
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Post by pjm20 on Aug 6, 2024 17:35:40 GMT -8
If I remember correctly someone said there are some dimensional issues with the frame in terms of height or such?
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Post by hudsonyard on Aug 6, 2024 19:30:14 GMT -8
Nothing to really add here other than the fact those 72' reefers are probably the nicest mainline car they have done.
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Post by crblue on Aug 6, 2024 20:36:40 GMT -8
I use this guy instead of the blue flag kit. I realize they're slightly different purposes, but I really like this one. |
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Post by hudsonyard on Aug 6, 2024 21:50:42 GMT -8
I use this guy instead of the blue flag kit. I realize they're slightly different purposes, but I really like this one.
we use these for rule 99 on a friends layout, they come in handy.
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Post by nstophat on Aug 7, 2024 3:24:38 GMT -8
RF&P GP35: numberboards should be black on white fuel tank shape is too "square", appearing to be of a greater capacity Ed When they were delivered in 1965 and numbered 111-118, they had white on black number boards. In 1969 when they were renumbered into 131-138, the number boards were changed to black on white and the font changed as well. Walthers does appear to have used the correct font though. Hopefully someone who works at Walthers and may lurk on this sight will see this and make the adjustments in time. Russ |
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Post by tom on Aug 7, 2024 4:05:42 GMT -8
If I remember correctly someone said there are some dimensional issues with the frame in terms of height or such? Yes it was quite a discussion mainly by "reviewers" looking at photos and videos who were claiming it was sitting way too high. This ended when someone actually measured it and the model turned out to be correct. I just happened to be working on a Phase II undec that I recently found online so I compared it to drawings from Mainline Modeler and my model matched the drawing. Mine will be an ex-NYC Penn Central GP35. NYC had five Phase II GP35s. |
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Post by dstark on Aug 7, 2024 5:05:22 GMT -8
When they were delivered in 1965 and numbered 111-118, they had white on black number boards. In 1969 when they were renumbered into 131-138, the number boards were changed to black on white and the font changed as well. Walthers does appear to have used the correct font though. Hopefully someone who works at Walthers and may lurk on this sight will see this and make the adjustments in time. Russ Here's 132 and 137 in May 1970 with white on black numberboards: www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1361040and 132 on Feb. 28, 1971, on close inspection white numbers on a black background can be seen on both units: www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2652743Photos indicate that by at least March 1972 the numberboards had changed to black numbers on a white background. Doug Stark |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Aug 7, 2024 5:46:30 GMT -8
RF&P GP35: numberboards should be black on white fuel tank shape is too "square", appearing to be of a greater capacity Ed When they were delivered in 1965 and numbered 111-118, they had white on black number boards. In 1969 when they were renumbered into 131-138, the number boards were changed to black on white and the font changed as well. Walthers does appear to have used the correct font though. Hopefully someone who works at Walthers and may lurk on this sight will see this and make the adjustments in time. Russ So it looks like these Walthers RF&P GP35's will be good for 1969 (when they were renumbered) until a year or two later, when they got the new black on white numberboards. If you model 1970, that's all very nice, indeed. Ed |
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Post by cemr5396 on Aug 7, 2024 6:55:32 GMT -8
Nothing to really add here other than the fact those 72' reefers are probably the nicest mainline car they have done. they are, but I really wish they hadn't picked such an oddball prototype to base them on. If they wanted to make a modern reefer, one of the 72 IL cars (Walthers is 64, same as the BLMA/Atlas and Exactrail cars) would have been nice. They're much more common and probably have more road names they could have done. |
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Post by hudsonyard on Aug 7, 2024 19:14:57 GMT -8
Nothing to really add here other than the fact those 72' reefers are probably the nicest mainline car they have done. they are, but I really wish they hadn't picked such an oddball prototype to base them on. If they wanted to make a modern reefer, one of the 72 IL cars (Walthers is 64, same as the BLMA/Atlas and Exactrail cars) would have been nice. They're much more common and probably have more road names they could have done.
ironically they show up here on long island pretty frequently, I saw one headed for a local food distributor a couple days ago.
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