Toledo, Peoria and Western "olive" paint

[schroed2]

Hi all,

can anybody recommend a suitable Toledo, Peoria and Western "olive" paint for HO models ?

Note: I am in Germany, so shipping restrictions ARE relevant


thanks
Bernd

[Christian]

How about Revell Nato Olive? It should be available in Germany. It seems to have just enough green that it isn't gray. It looks similar to several online photos of the scheme, which is very dark even in sunlight. The Atlas N-scale model is very much lighter and greener.

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Toledo_Peoria_and_Western_204_%28RS2%29_idling_on_ready_track_in_front_of_Main_Shops_and_yards_at_Peoria%2C_IL_in_June_1963_%2822450276755%29.jpg

If this doesn't click, a Google search will turn this up at wikimedia.org (My URL shorteners don't seem to want to deal with this!)



Tamiya Acrylic Paint XF-62 Olive Drab looks closer and I guess should be at the military modeler shops in Germany.

[schroed2]

Aug 24, 2024 7:08:27 GMT -8 Christian said:

Tamiya Acrylic Paint XF-62 Olive Drab looks closer and I guess should be at the military modeler shops in Germany.

Tamiya is no problem...thanks for the idea. If necessary, I can mix it a bit to match..but to what source?

I am a bit confused by the fact that the olive on the TP&W models I own (Atlas C42x and Walthers/P2K GP7) is quite different and the Branchline boxcars in TPW (repainted in the late 60ies) are more of dark green and not really a match to either of the locomotives.

The "yellow" is even worse...

[ambluco]

The TP&W Hist. Soc. recommends Coach Green first and then Pullman Green.

Floquil Coach green is Tamiya #71 Cockpit Green
Floquil Pullman Green is MM 4784, Vallejo VMA 71.019, or ModelFliex 16-180, or Humbrol HU 86 Matt Light Olive

[Baikal]

Aug 24, 2024 7:31:42 GMT -8 schroed2 said:

Aug 24, 2024 7:08:27 GMT -8 Christian said:

Tamiya Acrylic Paint XF-62 Olive Drab looks closer and I guess should be at the military modeler shops in Germany.

Tamiya is no problem...thanks for the idea. If necessary, I can mix it a bit to match..but to what source?

I am a bit confused by the fact that the olive on the TP&W models I own (Atlas C42x and Walthers/P2K GP7) is quite different and the Branchline boxcars in TPW (repainted in the late 60ies) are more of dark green and not really a match to either of the locomotives.

The "yellow" is even worse...

Two different dark greens are seen on TP&W caboose 519. I think you want the darker green on the bottom, if not even darker(?). The loco green looks to be a very dark gray-green, not "Pullman" green or the very dark PRR DGLE/Brunswick green or GN Empire Builder brownish-green. Did any other railroads use the TP&W color?  I was thinking the Reading's original dark green but it looks to yellow-ish.

modelrailroadnews.com/tip-up-transfer-toledo-peoria-western-caboose-in-ho-scale-from-bluford-shops/

Some more color photos:

industrialscenery.blogspot.com/2014/10/toledo-peoria-western.html

(I dig that mid-century modern HQ building)

www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=374165&nseq=52

[schroed2]

Thanks for all ideas...looks to me like the TP&W did some "mix and match" on their own.

So I guess I can follow this approach, too

[cera2254]

Aug 24, 2024 23:41:31 GMT -8 schroed2 said:

Thanks for all ideas...looks to me like the TP&W did some "mix and match" on their own.

So I guess I can follow this approach, too

I think that is a safe bet, I know their later scheme varied quite a bit depending on who painted them and when, so I’m sure the same could be said for the olive scheme!