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Post by timvanmersbergen on Oct 14, 2024 11:17:36 GMT -8
In 1968, the Chicago and NorthWestern acquired/merged with the Chicago Great Western. With this, they got a bunch of F-units. In 1971-72, they were renumbered into the 200s (A-units) and 300s (B-units) along with what remained of the CNW Fs and a bunch of secondhand that were picked up. Between 1968 and late 1971, they ran pretty much unchanged with the exception of just a few that were re-painted yellow and green wearing their old numbers. This is one of those units. Prototype from Lake States Archive, WS Kuba photo: www.lakestatesarchive.org/William-S-Kuba-Collection/CNW-Diesel-Locomotives-and-Trains/i-sFpsZ95/A  As I had posted before, it was my goal to model this consist, shown in Marshalltown, IA in 1969: www.lakestatesarchive.org/William-S-Kuba-Collection/CNW-Diesel-Locomotives-and-Trains/i-78MgGC8/A(Lake States - WS Kuba photo) With this F3, a CGW F7B, and the FP9 posted earlier this year, here is that consist in action.  Tim VanMersbergen  |
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Post by wagnersteve on Oct 14, 2024 13:55:29 GMT -8
Oct. 14, close to 6 p.m., EDT
Tim, great, inspirational modeling! Thanks for doing it and posting the photos.
One question about the second photo: What is the first boxcar, next to the yellow and green C&NW loco? I can't read the road name on it.
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Post by timvanmersbergen on Oct 14, 2024 14:26:22 GMT -8
Oct. 14, close to 6 p.m., EDT Tim, great, inspirational modeling! Thanks for doing it and posting the photos. One question about the second photo: What is the first boxcar, next to the yellow and green C&NW loco? I can't read the road name on it. Thank you for the kind words. The first car is a Soo Line boxcar, patched out former Duluth, South Shore, & Atlantic, 10'6" ih, with 5/5 square corner dreadnaught ends. Built from an Intermountain 1937 modified kit with 3d printed square corner ends. Decals were a combination of K4 sets and some Microscale. Here is a better view.  Prototype photo, pilfered from an E-bay auction.  |
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Post by hudsonyard on Oct 14, 2024 17:17:48 GMT -8
I have quite the soft spot for the CGW, one of the apartments I lived in in minneapolis was within walking distance of their east minneapolis yard, now used by UP. I've explored a lot of their ROW in southern MN. I probably have a southern MN/northern IA layout in me one day. Maybe Northfield and Randolph, MN.. Great work!
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Post by wagnersteve on Oct 15, 2024 4:03:12 GMT -8
Oct. 15, starting about 7:52 a.m.
timvanmersbergen, thanks for your reply and the fine photos.
The first real loco I saw in the off-white and bright red Soo Line livery was a double-ended ex-DSS&A Baldwin in Marquette, MI in 1964. My family of origin rode the Marquette & Huron Mountain tourist line behind an ex-LS&I steamer, possibly one of those that later went to the Grand Canyon tourist line. When a crew member said he had worked for the South Shore, I thought he meant the former Insull-owned interurban CSS&SB, which I rode all the way from Chicago to downtown South Bend, IN, in April 1970. My HO roster includes one Accurail DSS&A 40' boxcar.
hudsonyard, I also have a "soft spot" for the CGW, though I prefer their old Corn Belt route herald to the "Lucky Strike" one. I've been in most parts of Minnesota. I liked the red and maroon passenger livery probably first used by the Chicago & Alton; similar colors were used by the GM&O and CGW and have been used by several tourist railroads.
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Post by slowfreight on Oct 15, 2024 5:33:34 GMT -8
Neat to see the FP9 as well. Those were very elusive on the North Western...not around very long, and mostly used in the upper midwest AFAIK. The whole consist looks good, and I think to keep it safe from the dogs you should send it to me.
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Post by wagnersteve on Oct 15, 2024 8:51:24 GMT -8
Oct. 15, starting about 12:45 p.m.
Most FP9 units were built for railways outside the USA, especially in Canada but also in Mexico. At least one CP FP9A pulled a D&H train from Montreal to Rouses Point, NY on an occasion when the regular D&H locos weren't available. Perhpas the most famous EMD FPA units were the FP7A units used back-to-back on the Reading's Crusaderbetween Philadelphia and Jersey City after the Pacific partly shrouded in stainless steel were retired. They were also used on other Reading trains, possibly including the Wall Streeter, also between those two points, plus trains elsewhere on the system. Some FP9s built for Canadian railways were later used on US railroads, at least in some cases to power business trains.
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Post by timvanmersbergen on Oct 15, 2024 9:59:46 GMT -8
Oct. 15, starting about 12:45 p.m. Most FP9 units were built for railways outside the USA, especially in Canada but also in Mexico. At least one CP FP9A pulled a D&H train from Montreal to Rouses Point, NY on an occasion when the regular D&H locos weren't available. Perhpas the most famous EMD FPA units were the FP7A units used back-to-back on the Reading's Crusaderbetween Philadelphia and Jersey City after the Pacific partly shrouded in stainless steel were retired. They were also used on other Reading trains, possibly including the Wall Streeter, also between those two points, plus trains elsewhere on the system. Some FP9s built for Canadian railways were later used on US railroads, at least in some cases to power business trains. The only FP9 units built for an American railroad were the four built for the CNW from traded FTs. All other FP9s were for either Canada or Mexico. It is a rarity in the USA. |
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Post by Baikal on Oct 15, 2024 10:18:09 GMT -8
Oct. 15, starting about 12:45 p.m. Most FP9 units were built for railways outside the USA, especially in Canada but also in Mexico. At least one CP FP9A pulled a D&H train from Montreal to Rouses Point, NY on an occasion when the regular D&H locos weren't available. Perhpas the most famous EMD FPA units were the FP7A units used back-to-back on the Reading's Crusaderbetween Philadelphia and Jersey City after the Pacific partly shrouded in stainless steel were retired. They were also used on other Reading trains, possibly including the Wall Streeter, also between those two points, plus trains elsewhere on the system. Some FP9s built for Canadian railways were later used on US railroads, at least in some cases to power business trains.
I show NdeM with 16 FP7s #s 6300A - 6308A & 6328A - 6334A.
and 25 FP9s #s 7010A - 7034A.
Totals could be wrong, they are from a 1973 roster published in a mag with the initials RMS(?) Anyone know what that is?
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Post by slowfreight on Oct 15, 2024 14:14:03 GMT -8
Oct. 15, starting about 12:45 p.m. Most FP9 units were built for railways outside the USA, especially in Canada but also in Mexico. At least one CP FP9A pulled a D&H train from Montreal to Rouses Point, NY on an occasion when the regular D&H locos weren't available. Perhpas the most famous EMD FPA units were the FP7A units used back-to-back on the Reading's Crusaderbetween Philadelphia and Jersey City after the Pacific partly shrouded in stainless steel were retired. They were also used on other Reading trains, possibly including the Wall Streeter, also between those two points, plus trains elsewhere on the system. Some FP9s built for Canadian railways were later used on US railroads, at least in some cases to power business trains. The only FP9 units built for an American railroad were the four built for the CNW from traded FTs. All other FP9s were for either Canada or Mexico. It is a rarity in the USA. Those same units got traded in on GP15-1s. The possibility exists that the generators and trucks emerged 3 different times from EMD as "new." |
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