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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2013 4:43:02 GMT -8
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Post by marknycfan on Apr 28, 2013 9:22:44 GMT -8
A+, top shelf work Jim, I've always had an interest in this GN era.
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Post by mecu18b on Apr 28, 2013 9:34:57 GMT -8
Very nice work Jim...very nice!
Ted
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Post by mlehman on Apr 28, 2013 11:22:27 GMT -8
Nice work, Jim. I'm not normally partial to blue color schemes. I make an exception for this all-too short-lived GN scheme, which is quite handsome. But the GN always had good tastes in such things, so it's hard to choose a favorite. I assembled a P2K Mather GSX stock car I traded for with a buddy and 3 Accurail stock cars for the Rio Grande. Nuttin' special, just Jay-Bee metal wheels, Kadee whisker couplers, and renumbered two of the Accurails. Pic is at Mountain Packing, which serves both SG and narrowgauge bull shippers.    |
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Post by Judge Doom on Apr 28, 2013 11:33:54 GMT -8
GN blue is always nice, and those are some nicely detailed pens! A recent repaint I just finished. This started out as a P2K SD60 painted in the off-coloured SOO red/white livery:  |
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Post by nw611 on Apr 28, 2013 13:19:16 GMT -8
cp4097west, could you please give me a lesson on CP locomotives' paint schemes. I'd like to know in which years the following paint schemes were adopted:
red multimark
red no multimark
CP Rail
CP Rail with US and Canadian flags
spelled Canadian Pacific with and w/o Beaver.
Thanks. Ciao. Raffaele
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Post by buffalobill on Apr 28, 2013 13:30:29 GMT -8
Jim: The GN BS Blue F's are beautiful. Really nice work. Will look good once they are mounted on the chassis. Are you using Genesis or old Kato F mechanisms.
CP: the SD-60 looks very nice also. Like Raffaele's request, I assume that is a very recent paint job for the ex Soo units. Definitely better than the original white and red.
Bill
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Post by Judge Doom on Apr 28, 2013 13:55:00 GMT -8
CP: the SD-60 looks very nice also. Like Raffaele's request, I assume that is a very recent paint job for the ex Soo units. Definitely better than the original white and red. Bill Indeed it is Bill! Done after one of the rebuilds done at CAD Rail in Montreal in 2012. cp4097west, could you please give me a lesson on CP locomotives' paint schemes. I'd like to know in which years the following paint schemes were adopted: red multimark red no multimark CP Rail CP Rail with US and Canadian flags spelled Canadian Pacific with and w/o Beaver. Thanks. Ciao. Raffaele Certainly Raffaele. My memory is a bit rough but off the top of my head: - 1968 was when they unveiled the new CP Rail / Multimark branding and "Action red" livery for their rail system (other transportation modes got other colours, CP Ships was Green, CP Transport blue, etc). Freight car colours varied depending on use, but locomotives painted red with 5" full frontal white striping (cab and nose) and large multimark (or pac-man logo). Rear striping was black and white to the top of the hood. Noses of road units weren't initially painted black, but done so not too long after to reduce glare. Frame and down black. *There was a brief period around 1975 where an experimental "Ogden Multi" was introduced, that is, full 5" front striping but with a small multi and rear striping only going as far as the rear multi height. Didn't catch on. - Mid-late 70's they switched over from 5" to larger 8" striping just on nose only, large multi retained. - Early 80's they switched from large to small multi** - Late 80's multimark was eliminated (88 or so?), rear striping was changed to red and white like front. - Early-mid 90's (1993) was the introduction of the CP System livery: CP on nose, CP Rail System lettering and dual flags logos on side of units. Red changed to "Candy Apple Red" (used on all orders since then). No striping on either end. -STLH - 1995 - St. Lawrence & Hudson Ry, created by CP to operate all their eastern lines and NE US (D&H) as CP was thinking of spinning them off at the time. Never happened. Basically CP System red with STLH logos, a bunch of SD40-2's and Geeps got this livery. - Late 90's Canadian Pacific livery with gold beaver logo introduced (1997) - Mid 00's(?) to present - beaver logo was dropped ("shaved beaver livery" as some call it). **Note, large multi era named so because of full multimark on backs of hood units, i.e. SD40-2's GP35's etc. Small multis were applied to units with little space for large, i.e. F-units under the grills, switchers under the cab windows, etc. This is a rough timeline, excluding some minor transitional variations between livery eras and those applicable to only certain units (e.g. in the 1980's some switchers received the multimark on the hood in front of the cab, instead of on the cab). |
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Post by fr8kar on Apr 28, 2013 15:25:53 GMT -8
Nice work! In the spirit of showing off BN predecessors, I've got another one of my grain hoppers weathered. It's a P2K 4427 kit assembled and weathered to resemble a prototype photo I found online:  |
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Post by shoofly on Apr 28, 2013 16:23:18 GMT -8
Here's what I've been modeling. Sorry for attaching the image, my image-serve seems to have gotten flushed down the toilet. Attachments:
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Post by upinct on Apr 28, 2013 16:58:49 GMT -8
Hi Chris, Any idea when the Pan Am stuff will be out? Starting to scenic the layout.   Derek |
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Post by shoofly on Apr 28, 2013 18:13:50 GMT -8
Derek, in a week! Attachments:
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Post by calzephyr on May 1, 2013 13:31:18 GMT -8
Hi Chris, Any idea when the Pan Am stuff will be out? Starting to scenic the layout. Derek That paint scheme is nice. Larry |
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Post by upinct on May 1, 2013 17:05:56 GMT -8
Hi Larry, Believe it or not, that is Pan Am's Phase II paint. Its funny that they are onto their Phase II paint sceme before they have repainted all the old Guilford Units. It also seems weird to talk about Phase II paint with a RR that has only been around since I believe 2006. A link to phase I paint www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=619452 |
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Post by calzephyr on May 2, 2013 11:34:39 GMT -8
Hi Larry, Believe it or not, that is Pan Am's Phase II paint. Its funny that they are onto their Phase II paint sceme before they have repainted all the old Guilford Units. It also seems weird to talk about Phase II paint with a RR that has only been around since I believe 2006. A link to phase I paint www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=619452I have seen pictures of their units, which really do look nice. The one question I have about the railroad is the name. I believe they paid to use that name, but why would a railroad use a name that was extremely famous for an airline? Very nice colors for sure. The paint scheme is a great improvement over the old Guilford Units Larry |
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Post by calzephyr on May 2, 2013 17:01:07 GMT -8
GN blue is always nice, and those are some nicely detailed pens! A recent repaint I just finished. This started out as a P2K SD60 painted in the off-coloured SOO red/white livery:  Very nice!! Larry |
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Post by upinct on May 2, 2013 18:06:54 GMT -8
Hi Larry,
Guilford/Pan Am is just a crazy train and the reason I am modeling it.
If you remember B&M which Guilford bought had a commuter airline associated with it. Mr Mellon and Mr Fink didn't just want the Pan Am name they wanted to operate the airline again. So with the name and B&M's air ops they tried to restart the airline on a shoestring and at a modest level. After operating for a time the FAA stepped in and shut them down. So after the airline shutdown they decided in 2006 to rename Guildford as Pan Am. They own all the rights to the name, so for example the recent TV show "Pan Am" had to license the name from the rr. In addition to the RR, the company is also a real estate company and manufactures and recycles wood railroad ties.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 19:15:14 GMT -8
They own all the rights to the name, so for example the recent TV show "Pan Am" had to license the name from the rr. Hopefully the railroad will be around a bit longer than the TV show which lasted all of 14 episodes. |
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Post by santafe49 on May 4, 2013 18:54:06 GMT -8
Sadly, 75% of the TV audience probably thought Pan Am was a fictitious airline.
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Post by mlehman on May 4, 2013 19:15:10 GMT -8
Sadly, 75% of the TV audience probably thought Pan Am was a fictitious airline. Well, they'd be correct that it's the one they most frequently see in old movies and TV. And it's pretty much still fictitious as far as being an airline. Maybe they sell a few extra shares of RR stock to that old guy who can't keep his names straight? Win, win. How the mighty have fallen. My family returned from dad's last foreign assignment in Europe via Pan Am Flight 1 on January 1, 1975. That's the one that was always circling the globe, although the planes changed out.   |
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