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Post by fr8kar on Nov 11, 2013 7:57:44 GMT -8
What about the Aero Cab GP59's? The ones with the "streamlined" cabs? I believe those are on the longer GP59/60 frame, and wouldn't work on Athearn's current Genesis GP frame. It would be nice if Athearn offered the GP59/60 at some point in the future and even nicer if the demonstrator cab was offered. That chassis would also allow Genesis versions of the GP60B and GP60M. Just throwin' it out there...
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Post by carrman on Nov 11, 2013 7:58:12 GMT -8
I guarantee Athearn pays far closer attention to forums and Facebook than most folks realize. Again, I'll go with Athearns wisdom about what to make over Curts rants any day.
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Post by curtmc on Nov 11, 2013 9:09:46 GMT -8
Carrman, you forgot to put "wisdom" in the quotation marks it deserves... My "rants" (as you claim) are personal product opinions based on actual QA/QC problems experienced recently (by myself and others I know) with products of Athearn and other importers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2013 9:19:54 GMT -8
Dave:
You are correct...FWIW...the new GP40-2's on display at Athearn's booth show very nice hand rails, and paint...IMO. I am FINALLY going to get that elusive walkway that i need to build the MoPac 2300 series GP38-2's...with the triangular anti-climber on the front...and the regular short anti-climber on the rear...with the 3600 gallon fuel tank!!!
Athearn states the parts will be in the near future...so I'm STOKED!!!!
They do pay attention to the stuff said on the forums...I am sure they "qualify" the remarks made by some posters and respond (or not) accordingly.
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Post by curtmc on Nov 11, 2013 12:44:53 GMT -8
BTW, you're not going to get a full one-piece walkway with those anticlimbers because of the way Athearn did the design... You're likely going to get a anticlimber add on piece that leaves an unprototypical seam and gap between it and the walkway. Some of the Southern GP50s had enough of a gap between the front walkway and anticlimber to not only leave an unsightly seam, but with a gap wide enough to see light or roadbed below unit through the walkway.
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Post by dstark on Nov 11, 2013 16:04:21 GMT -8
When you are methodically working with undecorated parts, the fit of Athearn Genesis parts is just about flawless. I believe Thomas knows ALL about the add-on anticlimber design as he may well hold the record for quantity of undec MP version Genesis GP15-1s purchased, and these happened to leave the factory without anticlimbers included. Ooops. Athearn eventually made good about nine(?) months later. I'm privy to this as Thomas and I made a mutually beneficial GP15-1 walkway swap a couple of years ago. Doug Stark BTW, you're not going to get a full one-piece walkway with those anticlimbers because of the way Athearn did the design... You're likely going to get a anticlimber add on piece that leaves an unprototypical seam and gap between it and the walkway. Some of the Southern GP50s had enough of a gap between the front walkway and anticlimber to not only leave an unsightly seam, but with a gap wide enough to see light or roadbed below unit through the walkway.
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Post by curtmc on Nov 11, 2013 16:22:21 GMT -8
Doug, Every factory decorated unit I've seen with that later anticlimber part/extension had a very noticeable and quite unprototypical seam or gap. IMHO it would have a much better appearance if the anticlimbers had been integrated into a front/rear walkway section instead of being a part that leaves a very visible seam/gap.
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Post by dstark on Nov 11, 2013 17:26:20 GMT -8
Curt, I don't disagree. My point was that a good modeler can out-assemble the pants off Athearn with their own undec model and leave no gap and minimal seam. That shouldn't be the case at the prices Athearn charges. Also agree it would be better if the anticlimber were integrated with the sill piece. This is one thing where surprisingly the P2K GP38-2 excelled. Below photo is a P2K pre-production sill, which will be part of a mash-up with an Atlas Ph 2 long hood and Cannon cab and nose. Doug, Every factory decorated unit I've seen with that later anticlimber part/extension had a very noticeable and quite unprototypical seam or gap. IMHO it would have a much better appearance if the anticlimbers had been integrated into a front/rear walkway section instead of being a part that leaves a very visible seam/gap. Attachments:
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Post by curtmc on Nov 13, 2013 18:52:55 GMT -8
Upon further inspection of the photos, it appears Athearn has a few more revisions to do on the top details of their GP39X... Why is it that the Athearn Southern #4600 model (see thumbnail in Doug Stark's posting above atlasrescueforum.proboards.com/attachment/download/372 ) shows the exhaust opening toward the short hood end of the exhaust silencer box on the GP39X... and yet the lower top-down photo of prototype #4600 in ambluco's prototype info posting atlasrescueforum.proboards.com/thread/1750/southern-gp39x-proto-info shows that exhaust opening should be on the side toward the dynamic fan? Did Athearn put the exhaust silencer part on backwards on their display and marketing photo model? Or work off info questionably saying the exhaust stack was to the front? Also the small square top opening in the dynamic air intake section looks to be centered (front to back) in the section on the GP39X prototype and off-center (toward the dynamics) on the Athearn GP39X model.
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