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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 25, 2014 20:43:23 GMT -8
Oh, yeah.
The stupid weasels got the fonts all wrong on the NP unit. Too.
Yeah, yeah. I know weasels aren't that stupid. And they can tie their own shoes. Too.
Ed
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Post by bnsf971 on Sept 26, 2014 2:18:36 GMT -8
Perhaps the Hornby people can actually tie their own shoes. It's hard to tell from here. Ed That's why there's velcro... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2014 6:55:58 GMT -8
The colors on the CB&Q unit are hideous. The gray is too light and the red is too dark. The red on the Burlington herald is all wrong. The real and clean CB&Q 550......You be the judge of the model versus the prototype.  |
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Post by bdhicks on Sept 26, 2014 7:07:59 GMT -8
Looks like there's another downside to the etched handrails: the radius of the bend on the bottom of the stanchions makes an obvious gap, especially on the lighter paint schemes. (The bottom bit of the stanchion isn't painted to match the prototype either, but that's common on other existing models)
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Post by detroitterminal on Sept 27, 2014 20:43:44 GMT -8
The handrails aren't the greatest, but I'm assuming the wheel flanges will accept code 83 track. That was my biggest problem with the AHM-era U25's. Those pizza cutters couldn't handle code 83! Given the quality of the model, I'm waiting to see the price.
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Sept 27, 2014 23:05:32 GMT -8
The handrails aren't the greatest, but I'm assuming the wheel flanges will accept code 83 track. That was my biggest problem with the AHM-era U25's. Those pizza cutters couldn't handle code 83! Given the quality of the model, I'm waiting to see the price. Walthers shows list $219.99 for Standard/DC and $299.99 for Sound/DCC. My dealer was only able to discount the Standard/DC units to $187.00 and the Sound/DCC to $255.00. All subject to change, I'm sure... |
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Post by thebessemerkid on Oct 2, 2014 5:12:36 GMT -8
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Post by keystonefarm on Oct 2, 2014 7:58:20 GMT -8
I just ordered a PRR from FDT. We shall see. ------- Ken
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Post by tom on Oct 2, 2014 13:37:25 GMT -8
Nope. While that price seems pretty good for a sound unit I am not buying one unseen. The other day I was re-reading an article in the PCRRHS "Post" magazine that features a number of very good photos of PC's U25C's and the new Rivarossi U25C does not capture the correct U25C look. Those flat handrails and trucks that are not quite right and some things that I cannot place from the photos make it a no vote for me. Too bad as I really like the PC U25C prototype but in actuality compared to the rest of the PC roster the U25C were small in number. |
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Post by thebessemerkid on Oct 2, 2014 15:36:35 GMT -8
I just ordered a PRR from FDT. We shall see. ------- Ken Looking forward to a review. The C 636's will tap me out for a spell. If the U25's are good (or can easily be made good) they will be next on the list. |
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Post by bigblow69 on Oct 3, 2014 8:54:34 GMT -8
Between the paint issues, decoration issues(fonts), the trucks not being as "husky" as the prototype, handrail issues I just don't see why people would buy it. I realize that compromises must be made with models but come on man do some research. The Korea Brass one was a better model from what I seen. Shame it never made it to market. I feel sorry for you modelers that really wanted this engine and you get this.
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Post by atsfan on Oct 3, 2014 9:40:47 GMT -8
Sad we end up with yet another mediocre product
The handrails alone are something out of the 1970s
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Post by nightmare0331 on Oct 3, 2014 9:41:58 GMT -8
I looked at the Hornby samples this morning and they looked pretty nice in person. As a quick disclaimer, I do work in the industry for another manufacturer and have no financial interest in how this model is received.
Overall appearance wise, it is a very nice looking unit. In person, the 'handrail issue' is blown way out of proportion.
As with any model regardless of who it's from, things can be picked apart. Certain things irk one person that the next doesn't care about in the least...such is the nature of the beast. I have a general theory with any higher end model that 85% of the people will be happy with the units they purchase, 10% might have issues and address it it themselves (as reasonably well as can be done) and maybe even share this information with the manufacturer so things can be addressed in potential follow on runs, and 5% will complain to no end but never do anything about it.
I think Hornby will do well with it.
Just my half a cents worth.
Enjoy!
Kelley.
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Post by catt on Oct 3, 2014 10:34:30 GMT -8
If I wanted a HO U-25C I would buy this loco.If there was something I did not like about it,I would fix it to my satisfaction.I seem to recall that is what we all used to do at one time.Now it seems like if it doesn't your expections then it is just a POS and nobody should buy it.
"Hi there, I am nobody."
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Post by bigblow69 on Oct 3, 2014 11:25:08 GMT -8
If I wanted a HO U-25C I would buy this loco.If there was something I did not like about it,I would fix it to my satisfaction.I seem to recall that is what we all used to do at one time.Now it seems like if it doesn't your expections then it is just a POS and nobody should buy it. "Hi there, I am nobody." No too good for that but definitely from what I've gathered with this forum post not the quintessential locomotive that modelers are looking for. In the end people vote with their pocket book. If the modelers settle for something that is sub par it won't get any better in the second third or fourth runs. |
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Post by alcoc430 on Oct 3, 2014 12:33:12 GMT -8
I have the 60s Rivarossi lokie and the Kaslo detail kit waiting for me. I already built an atlas powered chassis utilizing the Rivarossi side frames. I going to stick to my Loco build.
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Post by atsfan on Oct 3, 2014 17:12:55 GMT -8
If I wanted a HO U-25C I would buy this loco.If there was something I did not like about it,I would fix it to my satisfaction.I seem to recall that is what we all used to do at one time.Now it seems like if it doesn't your expections then it is just a POS and nobody should buy it. "Hi there, I am nobody." At one time the POS did not cost $300. For that cash it shouldn't be in need fixing. |
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Post by atsfan on Oct 3, 2014 17:13:42 GMT -8
I looked at the Hornby samples this morning and they looked pretty nice in person. As a quick disclaimer, I do work in the industry for another manufacturer and have no financial interest in how this model is received. Overall appearance wise, it is a very nice looking unit. In person, the 'handrail issue' is blown way out of proportion. As with any model regardless of who it's from, things can be picked apart. Certain things irk one person that the next doesn't care about in the least...such is the nature of the beast. I have a general theory with any higher end model that 85% of the people will be happy with the units they purchase, 10% might have issues and address it it themselves (as reasonably well as can be done) and maybe even share this information with the manufacturer so things can be addressed in potential follow on runs, and 5% will complain to no end but never do anything about it. I think Hornby will do well with it. Just my half a cents worth. Enjoy! Kelley. Are these engines out to be seen? |
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Post by Chad on Oct 3, 2014 17:35:16 GMT -8
If I wanted a HO U-25C I would buy this loco.If there was something I did not like about it,I would fix it to my satisfaction.I seem to recall that is what we all used to do at one time.Now it seems like if it doesn't your expections then it is just a POS and nobody should buy it. "Hi there, I am nobody." At one time the POS did not cost $300. For that cash it shouldn't be in need fixing. WOW, they are not out yet and already they are a POS. An example of superb motivation for manufactures to make new models. It's easy to bitch, hard to create. |
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Post by grabbem88 on Oct 3, 2014 18:18:39 GMT -8
Hey I'm a new guy and learned real quick that to just listen/read what everybody has to say because some things that do get pointed out no matter how frivolous it is only helps me decide if my money will be or wise to be spent on given product being discussed...
I also consider if I can't fix it or kitbash it then I will make that choice in buying it..
Just like the whole mabuchi motor debacle... To me woopty doo! For others not so much
As for this particular engine I will pass until a road that I'm looking for comes along other than that everything that has been discusses has been irrelevant to my decision whether to buy or not to buy but I did listen/read what has been said..and appreciate the non sugar coated opinions/facts
Art
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Post by nightmare0331 on Oct 4, 2014 3:31:56 GMT -8
I looked at the Hornby samples this morning and they looked pretty nice in person. As a quick disclaimer, I do work in the industry for another manufacturer and have no financial interest in how this model is received. Overall appearance wise, it is a very nice looking unit. In person, the 'handrail issue' is blown way out of proportion. As with any model regardless of who it's from, things can be picked apart. Certain things irk one person that the next doesn't care about in the least...such is the nature of the beast. I have a general theory with any higher end model that 85% of the people will be happy with the units they purchase, 10% might have issues and address it it themselves (as reasonably well as can be done) and maybe even share this information with the manufacturer so things can be addressed in potential follow on runs, and 5% will complain to no end but never do anything about it. I think Hornby will do well with it. Just my half a cents worth. Enjoy! Kelley. Are these engines out to be seen? They are on display by the manufacturer at the I Hobby trade show in Schaumburg, IL (suburb of Chicago) this weekend. You can also have a discussion with the gentleman who headed up this project. He's very knowledgeable and knows his stuff but is also willing to listen to comments and constructive criticism. Enjoy! Kelley. |
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Post by thebessemerkid on Oct 4, 2014 10:45:09 GMT -8
I'm anxious to see how a light to moderately weathered U25 looks. That will be the litmus test for capturing the look of the engines.
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Post by keystonefarm on Oct 10, 2014 12:17:36 GMT -8
Received a notice today from Factory Direct Trains that the U-25c's will be in monday Oct 13th. Should be shipped early next week. Looking forward to their arrival. ------ Ken
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Post by Chad on Oct 11, 2014 16:17:18 GMT -8
Received a notice today from Factory Direct Trains that the U-25c's will be in monday Oct 13th. Should be shipped early next week. Looking forward to their arrival. ------ Ken That is very good news. I look forward to these. I am not sure the flat handrails will be much of an issue. One thing for sure is they will be sturdy. |
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Post by Spikre on Oct 11, 2014 16:29:49 GMT -8
?? does make me wonder if this Exact Loco was offered by Athearn what the Reaction would be ?? possibly a lot less nit picking,and others would be happy the Handrails arnt wavy. Spikre   |
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Post by onequiknova on Oct 11, 2014 18:49:06 GMT -8
?? does make me wonder if this Exact Loco was offered by Athearn what the Reaction would be ?? possibly a lot less nit picking,and others would be happy the Handrails arnt wavy. Spikre Did you forget about the GP9 fiasco, or the SDP40 expansion gap? Athearn isn't immune to scrutiny. |
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Post by Spikre on Oct 11, 2014 19:15:14 GMT -8
 John, that was the SDP45,and looking at Delivery pics of the ELs, there does seem to be a gap at certain angles. the Genesis GP7/9 has plenty of problems as they still need work. is the Cab too high ? or are the hoods too low ?? [ like the Front Range GPs ?] can the ride height be corrected ? as is they are too high above the trucks. Athearn can nail the DD40AX,but not the early GPs ?? Spikre
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Post by Chad on Oct 13, 2014 11:47:06 GMT -8
I was surprised to see these at my LHS today. They really look nice and when it was put on the test track the sound is fabulous. You need to hear the startup, it will blow you away. I am no U25C expert but it's a great looking and sounding model. Of course I bought one and to be honest I did not even notice the flat handrails. I'll make some time later this week to take pictures and maybe a video so you can hear the sound. I would say they did a great job. But remember, I am no expert.
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Post by thebessemerkid on Oct 13, 2014 11:53:06 GMT -8
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Post by carrman on Oct 13, 2014 16:58:31 GMT -8
Video of the new U25C:
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