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Post by diburning on Oct 2, 2012 19:37:13 GMT -8
Question, since the 2002 Salt Lake Games are long over, are they still copyrighted etc such that Micro scale now could not do the decals? Or do them for a small fee, as in, who is paying money 10 years later to hype those games? The issue is not so much the paint scheme, but the logos. Even though the games are long over, all of the logos are still in use, and are still owned by their respective trademark owners. |
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Post by curtmc on Oct 2, 2012 20:26:27 GMT -8
Paul, sorry but I missed your spiteful questions earlier... lost in the on-topic discussion of CMT and the poor people who have apparently lost deposits and/or models. The fact of the matter is that OMI had been getting UP approval and licensing to do units for several years prior to that (1996 or so), so naturally they would have been the first on the list. I don't think OMI kicked off anything in regard to the licensing, unless UP thought if they could get OMI to pay (and/or provide freebies) then they could get others to do it too.
By the way, what was the rest of that posting I made that you reposted out of context? Wasn't that where I identified other companies that had been added to the listing?
I have been told that the IOC/USOC does not allow duplicate products (along with their timeframe restrictions) so I would advise you to point your arrows toward them on the exclusive rights... I have also been told that any other model manufacturer could have applied to do them under same production limitations but none did.
Here's a pointer to the next HO manufacturer wanting to do HO loco models with Olympic games logos on them the next time the Olympics are in the US and the UP (or some other railroad) does units with the logos of those future games... Be in the front of the line with the IOC/USOC with a big check ready, be willing to certify the accuracy/quality of the models and get their approval, be willing to give freebies to the corporate sponsors involved, and be willing to do a single run and destroy all items not sold by the date IOC/USOC specifies. Because those are apparently what is required to get the approval to use those valuable Olympic logos that will lead to sales...
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Post by curtmc on Oct 2, 2012 20:35:44 GMT -8
Yes, and the IOC/USOC reportedly no longer approves the use of the logos of past Olympic games on new production items. It is their way of protecting the sponsors who put out millions for the rights to use the logos of the upcoming games. And they apparently don't want companies using logos of old games as a substitute for the logos of the upcoming or current games.
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Post by el3637 on Oct 2, 2012 20:55:39 GMT -8
Question, since the 2002 Salt Lake Games are long over, are they still copyrighted etc such that Micro scale now could not do the decals? Or do them for a small fee, as in, who is paying money 10 years later to hype those games? The universe could entropy, collapse, and big bang again and 319 quintillion years from now the bloody IOC would still want to extort tribute for those 5 circles. I'm surprised they haven't retroactively taxed the ancient Greeks. Andy |
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Post by Paul Cutler III on Oct 3, 2012 7:06:17 GMT -8
Curt, "Spiteful", Curt? Really? Asking "Am I wrong?" is a "spiteful question"? Good grief. If I asked you the time of day, would that be considered inflammatory, too? Sheesh. I am posting the opinion that OMI kicked off the overly restrictive UP Licensing fiasco of 2002-06, using the fact that OMI was the first to sign up as evidence. So far, all you've said is that I'm wrong without saying why, other than OMI and UP had earlier agreements so it only makes sense that OMI signed up first. Well, the problem with that is that we have no idea who else had signed up with the older UP licensing like OMI had done. For all we know, Microscale, Athearn, Atlas, et al, also had prior agreements with UP, yet they didn't sign up with UP for years and after threats of legal action against them. For your old posting on the old Forum, here's the link: forum.atlasrr.com/archive/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=44579The post I quoted from was on Page 3 of 3. Going from that post, BTW, OMI was the first and only HO manufacturer on the UP list as of the Fall of '03 ("8 months ago..." as of May '04), Kato was onboard by December '03, and then Bowser in April '04. By May '04, Red Caboose. Who wasn't in May '04? "Athearn, Atlas, Bachmann, Broadway Limited, InterMountain, Con Cor, IHC, Life-Like, Kadee, Mantua, Model Power, MRC, Rivarossi, Roundhouse, Stewart, Trix and Walthers." - D. Harrison |
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Post by atsfan on Oct 3, 2012 8:00:02 GMT -8
Question, since the 2002 Salt Lake Games are long over, are they still copyrighted etc such that Micro scale now could not do the decals? Or do them for a small fee, as in, who is paying money 10 years later to hype those games? The universe could entropy, collapse, and big bang again and 319 quintillion years from now the bloody IOC would still want to extort tribute for those 5 circles. I'm surprised they haven't retroactively taxed the ancient Greeks. Andy Thanks for the morning chuckle........  |
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Post by atsfan on Oct 3, 2012 8:11:08 GMT -8
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Post by mlehman on Oct 3, 2012 9:22:24 GMT -8
Olympics and trains? I couldn't care less.  This reminds me of what is said about some academic debates. The passions run so high, because there is so little really at stake... Now remind me of exactly what this has to do with CMT's collapse? Like maybe they had too much old stock on the shelf or ? |
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Post by Paul Cutler III on Oct 5, 2012 17:50:46 GMT -8
Mike,
Drift happens.
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