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Post by riogrande on Sept 14, 2012 15:19:38 GMT -8
I have some Stewart 3-bay coal hoppers for late 60's and 1970's running. I have some more on the way too.
Since these come with plastic wheels, what do y'all recommend as good metal wheels (size, brand) that will fit these.
Also, I converted one of my Stewarts to KD's and it come out a bit high - used #5's. I had to do a little filing on the bolster to get them to come down. Anyone else had this with their Stewart 3 bay hoppers or maybe I had an oddball that time.
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Post by rhpd42002 on Sept 15, 2012 5:58:30 GMT -8
I can't help you with the coupler issue, other than to suggest the filing you did with your 1st one, or look into the KD offset shank coupler.
As far as wheelsets, I think you'd be fine using the P2K's. I've used them in nearly every freight car I own that didn't already come with metal wheelsets. (over 250)
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Post by riogrande on Sept 15, 2012 9:41:09 GMT -8
I think these are 70 ton hoppers so 33-inche wheels? I'll have to check the build dates but I think it was late 50's. I've seen photo's of the hoppers in use in the early 80's so I know these should be good for my time frame. I just snagged a 6-pack of brown Carbon County hoppers which were out of Utah.
BTW, in the Rio Grande Odyssey dvd, I can see a number of black offset hoppers with hexagon shaped emblems on them - but the view is too extreme so I can't make out the logo - I'm guessing N&W?
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Post by Judge Doom on Sept 15, 2012 9:47:02 GMT -8
The 33" P2K wheelsets will fit the truck sideframes they come with nicely. I have a few of them released under Bowser that I've done this too.
The cars are also a bit light, so you might want to add weight (the problem is there's not many places to hide it...some have put smaller weights underneath in between the dump gate bays).
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Post by mlehman on Sept 15, 2012 11:14:20 GMT -8
I'm sure that I have Jaybee wheels in mine, and 98% sure that KD #5s worked as couplers. But I'm a generic kind of guy and others with more specific memry of their build probably have better advice. Did you make sure any flash was clear from the kingpin/truck interface? I don't recall any specific trouble with the Stewarts, but have had that happen. The car wasn't settled all the way down. Jim, If you tell me roughly where on the RGO DVD the hoppers you're talking about are, I'll take a peek at it and see what it looks like to me. Sounds familiar, but CRS...  |
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Post by riogrande on Sept 15, 2012 14:17:50 GMT -8
Mike, the hoppers with the Hexagon logo I Believe are on disc 2 of RGO, think it is on one of the fast freights passing the one in the siding at Una in the desert.
There are lots of Carbon Country hoppers in the early part of Disc 1 with the 4 stripe F units pulling lots of hoppers and GS gons over Soldier Summit.
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Post by mlehman on Sept 16, 2012 18:47:24 GMT -8
Jim, Dang, I offered to help and now I'm drawing a blank. I've been around to the usual spots and can't locate my RGO  It could just be lost, it could be my CRS, or maybe I'm just now realizing I lost it in the fire a few years back. Not sure... I guess the only thing I guess I can add is that the lozenge description might mean Frisco? |
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Post by riogrande on Sept 16, 2012 19:24:53 GMT -8
What is an RGO for those of us who live in a cave? Of course if I lived in a basement I could run trains! Oh wait, I do live in a tiny basement because thats all I can afford after child support goes out and the cost of living in DC is crazy. I think these hexagonal white logo's on a black hopper are N&W but again, I only see them from a steep angle so I haven't been able to make it out properly.
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Post by mlehman on Sept 16, 2012 21:00:46 GMT -8
RGO = Rio Grande Odyssey  |
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Post by TREBOR on Sept 18, 2012 9:16:35 GMT -8
Shoot, I thought RGO was Railfans Get Obese.
I use Intermountain on Bowsers, hav't done a Stewart/Bowow yet. The IM 36" are great on 100T H43 clones.
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Post by dti406 on Sept 18, 2012 11:44:01 GMT -8
I have a number for the 14 Panel Stewarts, H37's and H39's and I use Intermountain 33" Wheels without any problems with rolling or coupler height.
Rick J
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Post by riogrande on Sept 18, 2012 14:23:02 GMT -8
At the next Timonium, I'll try to remember to pick up some wheels for these Stewarts and a few more KD#5 couplers.
Sounds like some of you are using 36" wheels and some 33" wheels.
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Post by Judge Doom on Sept 18, 2012 20:56:46 GMT -8
33" wheels are the right size for the traditional 2773 cuft "triple hoppers" they make (should be what they included as plastic wheels as well).
For the larger 100 ton cars, 36" wheels.
Rule of thumb = 33" for 70 ton cars and under, 36" for 100 ton and over. 28" for special clearance cars like autoracks.
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