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Post by Spikre on Jan 11, 2017 9:50:04 GMT -8
have always been interested in the 50s Pennsy Experimental GE and Westinghouse Cab units. was rather young,but am sure at least one set was seen,but not sure which one it was ? Spikre
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 11, 2017 12:47:18 GMT -8
have always been interested in the 50s Pennsy Experimental GE and Westinghouse Cab units. was rather young,but am sure at least one set was seen,but not sure which one it was ? Spikre I think this is a shot of one of the "Pennsy" locos on the GN (photo from the gn/np archives): Ed
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Post by gmpullman on Jan 11, 2017 20:35:37 GMT -8
As a native Clevelander I'm very partial to these: Ditto: +1 Thankfully, I was able to ride behind P2b-s between Harmon and GCT a few times! Regards, Ed
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Post by mrsocal on Jan 12, 2017 16:56:50 GMT -8
This does take me back... 1974 and I was all of 9 yrs. old. My folks took me to visit grandma & grandpa in Greenfield, Mass. this is where my dad grew up. My grandfather at the time was the head Bridge & Tunnel Inspector for the Boston & Maine working out of the East Deerfield Yard. This included the Hoosac Tunnel. They took me up there to see the east portal for the 1st time and my dad told me stories about himself being up there as a young boy to watch trains. As well as take motorcar rides with grandpa as he inspected the tunnel once a year from one end to the other. Anyway, he told me of the electric locos that were responsible for pulling the big steam trains through the tunnel because they could not be under steam to get though the tunnel alone, that it would make to much smoke and harm the train crews. At the time I was there the centenary lines were all gone and the diesel age had control but to here the stories from my dad and grandfather were just so exciting and WOW. This is one of the few and only pic's that I have of the Hoosac Tunnel Electrics and it is one I found on line.
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Post by Chet on Jan 24, 2017 11:54:55 GMT -8
When I was growing up, I had relatives working for both the Northern Pacific and the Milwaukee Road. I was lucky enough to have ridden in the cabs of the Milwaukee Road electrics, both in box cabs and the Little Joes. I was also lucky enough to have been able to travel over the entire Mountain Division from Harlowton, MT to Avery, ID. I still have relative living in Harlowtown, Three Forks and Deer Lodge, MT. I drive by E-70 every time we go to visit relatives in Deer Lodge.
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Post by talltim on Jan 25, 2017 7:19:32 GMT -8
This does take me back... 1974 and I was all of 9 yrs. old. My folks took me to visit grandma & grandpa in Greenfield, Mass. this is where my dad grew up. My grandfather at the time was the head Bridge & Tunnel Inspector for the Boston & Maine working out of the East Deerfield Yard. This included the Hoosac Tunnel. They took me up there to see the east portal for the 1st time and my dad told me stories about himself being up there as a young boy to watch trains. As well as take motorcar rides with grandpa as he inspected the tunnel once a year from one end to the other. Anyway, he told me of the electric locos that were responsible for pulling the big steam trains through the tunnel because they could not be under steam to get though the tunnel alone, that it would make to much smoke and harm the train crews. At the time I was there the centenary lines were all gone and the diesel age had control but to here the stories from my dad and grandfather were just so exciting and WOW. This is one of the few and only pic's that I have of the Hoosac Tunnel Electrics and it is one I found on line. I've been doing some casual research on te Hoosac Tunnel electrics as I think hooking up the electrics would make a good feature for a layout. Have you seen this video?
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Post by Spikre on Jan 25, 2017 12:07:31 GMT -8
Ed, that GE loco was built as a Demo especially for GN.it did end up on PRR after GN sent it back to GE. found a good book on the GE Experiments," the GN - PRR Electric Connection". printed in 1994.will get the complete title if You want it. even has 1 good pic of the Westinghouse loco in it.am surprised that the 2 units have unique "C" trucks,thought they had the late Baldwin Delta "C" trucks, but they are Single equalized and different from the F-M Train Master "C" trucks. now to find the PRR Electric Loco book that covers all PRR Electrics. Spikre
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 25, 2017 14:52:04 GMT -8
Ed, that GE loco was built as a Demo especially for GN.it did end up on PRR after GN sent it back to GE. found a good book on the GE Experiments," the GN - PRR Electric Connection". printed in 1994.will get the complete title if You want it. even has 1 good pic of the Westinghouse loco in it.am surprised that the 2 units have unique "C" trucks,thought they had the late Baldwin Delta "C" trucks, but they are Single equalized and different from the F-M Train Master "C" trucks. now to find the PRR Electric Loco book that covers all PRR Electrics. Spikre Yes, Spikre. I believe I would like the complete title. Sounds interesting. Somewhere in there should be that PRR got GN's Y-1 electrics. Ed
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Post by Spikre on Jan 26, 2017 10:44:56 GMT -8
Ed, the Y-1s became PRR FF-2s,never saw any of them. "Cross Continent Electrics" the Pennsylvania-Great Northern Connections. Bert Pennypacker Custom Brass Books,,,,1994. picked it up last Friday,nice,but Alco-GE didn't build U.P. 80, U.P. built it,never saw that monster either,but was in Omaha circa 1963 for a week.80/8080 was really Unique !! only a pic and a caption on it since it used the GN W-1 electric as its base. Spikre
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Post by Amboy Secondary on Jan 27, 2017 16:11:36 GMT -8
I recall reading in Trains Magazine about the PRR acquiring the GN motors, back in the early '60s, when the GN gave up on catenary. By 1967, all of the exotic electrics were gone, and all that remained were GG1s and E44s. There were also B1 and L6 and L6a engines used in Sunnyside Yard and Penn Station New York, but I never really encountered them. FF2s were used as helpers, from what I was told, but that may not be their only use.
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