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Post by bigblow69 on Jul 30, 2017 19:30:29 GMT -8
I was wondering what the demand for one of these may be. The IDOT is testing them in Hiawatha Service between Milwaukee and Chicago an I would like to see a high quality model made of one. Maybe Atlas Athearn or Scale Trains? I like the styling and paint on these better than the GE P42.   |
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Post by hovehicle on Jul 30, 2017 21:16:22 GMT -8
I think this locomotive could grow on me very fast, especially if I saw it in person. I would definitely like to see it in HO one day.
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Post by nw611 on Jul 31, 2017 2:39:03 GMT -8
This locomotive is a variation of the prototype Siemens Vectron DE, already made in Europe in H0 by Piko and announced by Trix and LS Models. Ciao. RG
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Post by roadkill on Jul 31, 2017 3:35:41 GMT -8
Yuck. Yet another reason why I will never model modern...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 3:44:14 GMT -8
I'd like to see the Amtrak paint scheme before deciding. I think the demonstrator paint is ugly.
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Post by roadkill on Jul 31, 2017 3:46:15 GMT -8
Sorry, but it ain't the paint making that thing ugly...
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Post by riogrande on Jul 31, 2017 5:53:01 GMT -8
I admit I'm now an anachronism so I see trains through the eyes of a second generation diesel fan. That engine looks pretty typical of European diesels these days. I've seen more appealing as far as modern passenger diesels go. I wonder where the buffers normally go.
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Post by jonklein611 on Jul 31, 2017 7:36:47 GMT -8
I admit I'm now an anachronism so I see trains through the eyes of a second generation diesel fan. That engine looks pretty typical of European diesels these days. I've seen more appealing as far as modern passenger diesels go. I wonder where the buffers normally go. Where the MU cables are:  |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 31, 2017 8:06:42 GMT -8
I believe it was BART that originated the concept that has taken over the locomotive styling world:  Take an extruded tube and stick a molded plastic end on it. Speaking of which, I've got to dig out my old HO BART model--the metal one--and peer at it. Check out the rubber band transmission. And put it back. Or maybe DCC it?  Ed |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Jul 31, 2017 8:20:54 GMT -8
Speaking of which, I've got to dig out my old HO BART model--the metal one--and peer at it. Check out the rubber band transmission. And put it back. Or maybe DCC it? Ed That might be a stretch......rubber band..... |
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Post by peoriaman on Jul 31, 2017 8:57:06 GMT -8
I believe it was BART that originated the concept that has taken over the locomotive styling world: Not to overlook BART's newer flat-ended cars, seen here in some of San Francisco's most beautiful concrete scenery:  |
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Post by Tom on Jul 31, 2017 11:23:04 GMT -8
One catch; they're not Amtrak owned locomotives. They're owned by the respective states in which they serve. These don't have the range or, currently the ability (re: dynamic braking) to serve in a nationwide capacity.
..and they look horrible. Anyone else wondering how well that intake will fare in the winter months?
EDIT: I personally prefer (having to pick between the two) the F125.
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Post by Tom on Jul 31, 2017 11:47:48 GMT -8
The European version in solid white with bigger front windows looks better. That's the Electric (Sprinter) version, known here as the ACS-64. The DB diesel (Vectron) is here:  |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 31, 2017 11:50:11 GMT -8
 Sorry. I just needed to cleanse my palate. Ed |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 31, 2017 11:51:13 GMT -8
Love those solar panels!!! Ed |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 16:22:52 GMT -8
I would suspect any models wouldn't arrive until the real units have been in actual service for a year or more at the earliest - at the moment few people will be actually aware they exist.
Also would need to wait and see what paint schemes they actually end up done in.
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Post by slowfreight on Jul 31, 2017 16:38:18 GMT -8
If you look at the PA1 photo again and then look at most newer passenger units starting with the Genesis series, the ability to lean out (or even see out) a side window has gone...well...out the window.
Kinda makes sense operationally, but it still looks naked to me when the engineer can only look forward.
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Post by el3672 on Jul 31, 2017 18:27:29 GMT -8
Sorry. I just needed to cleanse my palate. Ed Now That's what I'm Talking about, full window view, open side window where the engineer can reach out n feel the breeze, Classic. These Siemen things look like a Minions movie character. Way to ugly modern for me.
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Post by GP40P-2 on Jul 31, 2017 19:04:53 GMT -8
Yes I think it should be done (for those who model modern).
No I wouldn't buy one.
I would buy a P30CH.
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Post by roadkill on Aug 1, 2017 5:47:42 GMT -8
Sorry. I just needed to cleanse my palate. Ed Thanks, Ed, I needed that. |
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Post by riogrande on Aug 1, 2017 7:34:42 GMT -8
Sorry. I just needed to cleanse my palate. Ed Thanks, Ed, I needed that. Yes, breath of fresh air! Thanks. |
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Post by cp6027 on Aug 1, 2017 7:52:40 GMT -8
I would suspect any models wouldn't arrive until the real units have been in actual service for a year or more at the earliest - at the moment few people will be actually aware they exist. Also would need to wait and see what paint schemes they actually end up done in.
Not something I am interested in but there are several options for paint schemes so far: -Siemens demo -33 Illinois/Michigan/Missouri DOT "blue dots" (like the demo but without the big Siemens logo, will probably be called the Amtrak scheme even if they are not owned by Amtrak and may not have Amtrak logos) -22 Caltrans (dark blue cab with yellow swoosh) -8 Washington DOT "Cascades" (white with brown and dark green trim) -10 Florida Brightline yellow & black (have different streamlined pilot)
MARC also has eight on order; not sure what the paint scheme will look like.
That's a good selection of schemes covering almost every corner of the country so good potential for a model once these get more established in revenue service.
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Post by autocoach on Aug 1, 2017 9:24:50 GMT -8
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Post by autocoach on Jan 14, 2019 10:43:55 GMT -8
I saw a rumor today on RMWEB (UK Train Forum/Board) that Athearn was hinting at the SC-44 as a future release. As Atlas focused on the NJ Transit's latest electrics, maybe Athearn will see fit to service the rest of the country.
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Jan 14, 2019 11:26:03 GMT -8
No. It's an aesthetic wreck. They can't have even tried. The spirits of 139 GG1s are pointing and laughing.
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Post by kiwimodeller on Jan 14, 2019 12:30:46 GMT -8
Personally, I like the look of them. Would be great on a modern setup. Still remember some people not liking the P42's when the F40's were being replaced.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 14, 2019 13:00:07 GMT -8
Personally, I like the look of them. Would be great on a modern setup. Still remember some people not liking the P42's when the F40's were being replaced. I, too, still remember those people. Myself, for one. Looking at a P42, I am reminded that I still don't like them. I have several models because I must. But "like" isn't involved. I can't actually recall any locomotive made in the last 20 years that would receive any liking from me (sorta like most-all SUV's). I have yet to warm up to the various "W" versions. I can get behind most "spartan cab" models, some more than others. And the SDP40's and F40's, while nowhere near stunning, still do have something going, anyway. Some more palate cleansing:  Ed |
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 14, 2019 14:19:31 GMT -8
^ See, that does nothing for me. Give me a "boxy" SD70 any day over an E or F unit. Just my opinion. I personally would pick up an HO Charger when someone finally does one.
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Post by fr8kar on Jan 14, 2019 15:51:16 GMT -8
I like every photo posted in this thread. Some more than others, but I like 'em all. Those PAs though... Wow!
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Post by rails4dmv on Jan 14, 2019 15:53:26 GMT -8
I saw a rumor today on RMWEB (UK Train Forum/Board) that Athearn was hinting at the SC-44 as a future release. As Atlas focused on the NJ Transit's latest electrics, maybe Athearn will see fit to service the rest of the country. I suspect we will see a HO Scale & N scale SC-44 done to coincide with Amtrak's 50th Anniversary (2021), possibly along with a scale model of the new Acela II.
If Athearn does decide to produce the Charger, more than likely Athearn won't be doing any passenger cars for the model.
Unless Walthers does another production run of all phases of Budd Heritage Cars, Amfleets, Superliners, Viewliners or Horizon Cars, the SC-44 might be sitting on store shelves just like the Bachmann SEPTA ACS-64 & the SDP40F.
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