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Post by csxt8400 on Jun 29, 2018 7:52:50 GMT -8
I'd do terrible things for some new autoparts cars, and I think I'm in good company here.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jun 29, 2018 13:44:44 GMT -8
70s era 35' Sea-Land containers. Preferably simple and basic so that 20 or 30 are affordable. They don't need separate details on the doors.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 18:42:27 GMT -8
Finally, a true flexi flow hopper ( is what im hoping will be inside those boxes).
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Post by Gary P on Jul 3, 2018 10:16:54 GMT -8
Now we can only hope that the rather slow, factory production in China, doesn't delay the announcement of some very fine models from Mr. Hadfield! Other manufactures have been noting things taking much longer than expected. I am confident the models will be worth the wait. FWIW, it's not just model railroad items. A newer customer of a company I work for just told us that a new line they are carrying is going to be delayed another month or two, due to production delays in China. These are not train related items, but medical supplies that we distribute for them.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 8:15:21 GMT -8
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Post by roadkill on Jul 11, 2018 9:23:27 GMT -8
*drumroll*
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Post by gevohogger on Jul 11, 2018 9:26:35 GMT -8
I hope whatever this is, is worth the hype.
Or is it perhaps just boxes full of more boxes?
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Post by packer on Jul 11, 2018 10:04:49 GMT -8
I hope whatever this is, is worth the hype. Or is it perhaps just boxes full of more boxes? By boxes, you mean boxcar, right? lol
I generally dislike the side-open box. so I like the box.
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Post by wp8thsub on Jul 11, 2018 14:17:54 GMT -8
 And I get my freight cars from one. |
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Post by nstophat on Jul 11, 2018 17:12:03 GMT -8
I hope whatever this is, is worth the hype. Or is it perhaps just boxes full of more boxes? It could be a container loaded with boxes full of containers…. |
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Post by fr8kar on Jul 11, 2018 23:45:26 GMT -8
Let it be carbon dioxide tank cars. My plans for a bottling plant will be no more than dreams without them.
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Post by dti406 on Jul 12, 2018 5:33:14 GMT -8
I hope whatever this is, is worth the hype. Or is it perhaps just boxes full of more boxes? It could be a container loaded with boxes full of containers…. Or this could happen!  Rick Jesionowski |
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Post by djh4d on Jul 23, 2018 15:40:20 GMT -8
In case you guys missed it, Blaine posted a short video about Arrowhead and dropped a couple more hints about the first car.
I'm going to guess 86' auto parts box car.
-Dave
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Post by ambluco on Jul 23, 2018 16:26:13 GMT -8
I disagree with his point that an accurate, state of the art model has not been produced in decades in his "market". I think Rapido produces models that are both that, in freight, passenger and diesel HO markets (their steam isn't out yet), using technology that other manufacturers hadn't used yet (like 3D scan).
No need for the hyperbole.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 16:30:29 GMT -8
Well, from the video I gather that he has already shown it to someone. Stating that "it is garnering praise from noted freight car historians". What publication is it in. Blaine states "and published reviews that state that it may be the nicest car of its type ever produced". Or is it not yet out in publication, but will be soon? Hmm. I doubt that it is an 89' auto parts boxcar. The Arrowhead box is to short.  This is loads of fun Blaine. Dangling little bits and pieces in front of us and keeping us guessing. I am sure it will please a large market. I hope it does and leads to maybe a Northern Pacific/ BN Darby Hopper.  Brian |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 23, 2018 16:43:33 GMT -8
I doubt that it is an 89' auto parts boxcar. The Arrowhead box is to short. There ya go, using that logic thing. Ed |
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Post by bdhicks on Jul 23, 2018 17:40:02 GMT -8
keiffer, sounds like you watched the video on the Arrowhead front page. The new video is Arrowhead Models Trailer 3, which is the top one on the Video page.
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Post by choochooboy on Jul 23, 2018 18:20:10 GMT -8
I disagree with his point that an accurate, state of the art model has not been produced in decades in his "market". I think Rapido produces models that are both that, in freight, passenger and diesel HO markets (their steam isn't out yet), using technology that other manufacturers hadn't used yet (like 3D scan). Just as a note of clarification, when I say that our model "is directed at a market that has not seen an accurate, state-of-the-art model in many decades", I am not saying that the industry itself has not seen an accurate, state-of-the-art model in many decades. I am saying that our model targets a market within our industry that has not seen an accurate, state-of-the-art industry in many decades. If the former, you are right. To say that the industry proper has not seen any state-of-the-art model in many decades would be a very odd claim indeed. Blaine Hadfield Arrowhead Models |
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Post by Christian on Jul 24, 2018 0:47:48 GMT -8
Just as a note of clarification, when I say that our model "is directed at a market that has not seen an accurate, state-of-the-art model in many decades" That would seem to eliminate freight and passenger cars as well as diesel and steam locomotives. What's left? Perhaps we are finally going to have a kick-ass Peter Witt car or, could it be, an E44? |
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Post by txcavgr on Jul 24, 2018 1:36:28 GMT -8
Pickle car!
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Jul 24, 2018 2:50:06 GMT -8
Helium car!
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Post by nstophat on Jul 24, 2018 4:19:46 GMT -8
I disagree with his point that an accurate, state of the art model has not been produced in decades in his "market". I think Rapido produces models that are both that, in freight, passenger and diesel HO markets (their steam isn't out yet), using technology that other manufacturers hadn't used yet (like 3D scan). Just as a note of clarification, when I say that our model "is directed at a market that has not seen an accurate, state-of-the-art model in many decades", I am not saying that the industry itself has not seen an accurate, state-of-the-art model in many decades. I am saying that our model targets a market within our industry that has not seen an accurate, state-of-the-art industry in many decades. If the former, you are right. To say that the industry proper has not seen any state-of-the-art model in many decades would be a very odd claim indeed. Blaine Hadfield Arrowhead Models Please Blaine, do not let it be another F Unit...….. |
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Post by roadkill on Jul 24, 2018 4:45:40 GMT -8
In case you guys missed it, Blaine posted a short video about Arrowhead and dropped a couple more hints about the first car. I'm going to guess 86' auto parts box car. -Dave I'd be good with that! Me too  ! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 7:40:58 GMT -8
I disagree with his point that an accurate, state of the art model has not been produced in decades in his "market". I think Rapido produces models that are both that, in freight, passenger and diesel HO markets (their steam isn't out yet), using technology that other manufacturers hadn't used yet (like 3D scan). No need for the hyperbole. Freight, passenger and diesel are the broad markets as well as steam. I think it is safe to say that structures, track, vehicles, figures, scenery, electronics, tools and the like are not Arrowhead's market. I have met Blaine. I have had discussions with Blaine and through this I understand Blaine is genuinely a freight car guy. So I am going to suggest that the market he is referring to is the fright car market. Now I have to think. What part of the freight car market is he targeting with this first model. There are plenty of sub categories of the type of car as well as regions or industry served. After seeing what I did on the Rapido table at the St. Louis RPM meet over the weekend. I will 100% agree with you that Rapido is leading the charge with a new innovative approach to manufacturing. The B36 and RS11 are proof of that. The Royal Hudson is no slouch either. Rapido though is just beginning to test the US market. By US market, I mean US railroad prototypes. They really have not produced any mainstream US freight cars. The Flexi-Flo will pretty much be the first for an ultra high end car (one that I will rejoice over). I am talking freight cars. Not passenger cars. So lets take Rapido off the table for this discussion. To date. I think we can pretty much all agree that Blaine's tenure at Exactrail produced the finest cars to date. Especially the quad hoppers. The cars that were designed and produced under Blaine's time at Exactrail to me are now called Blaine cars. Keep in mind the new bulkhead car that Exactrail just announced is ALSO a Blaine car. So what I am hearing from this video is that Blaine is going to one up himself. My expectation is that not only is the car going to be rendered in the finest detail, but the assembly and paint is going to be over the top as well. The only car that I can think of that has not been done in super high quality and is prolific on both the east coast and west coast and everywhere in between is the ACF 4600. I know that Athearn has announced this car and has showed samples, but after reading Brian Bennett's post on Facebook about it, there is plenty of room for a correct high quality plastic model of this car. Not to mention the number of road names that can go on this car. I am not putting money on it, but my guess is the ACF 4600. Although it could be a boxcar. Plenty of those still to do and they are prolific all over the country. As well it could be a coal hopper. The Lord knows that the Eastern coal haulers have been left in the dust for many years. Especially PRR/NYC/PC/CR as well as C&O/B&O/WM/Chessie, but that goes against the prolific on both coasts. Time to put that Bowser 100 ton to rest. Brian |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 24, 2018 8:03:15 GMT -8
The only car that I can think of that has not been done in super high quality and is prolific on both the east coast and west coast and everywhere in between is the ACF 4600. 5250. Ed |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 8:53:16 GMT -8
Seems to me we are forgetting the Tangent Scale Models freight cars, and in actual practice, I have received much better quality (individually assembled) cars from Tangent than from ExactRail (QA/QC issues were not related to Blaine's design, but assembly issues).
My request is simple: please, please make sure the product assembly quality of whatever you make is up to snuff. I can count on one hand the number of manufacturers that generally are able to accomplish that.
Personally, I do hope we see a great 86' high cube auto parts boxcar!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 9:10:06 GMT -8
Between the ACF 4600 and the 5250, since Athearn is well along in the 4600 I'd think the next logical gaping hole to fill would be the 5250. That seems like a pretty "safe" model to offer for return on tooling investment. Nothing is sacred anymore. Will Athearn execute on it? Most likely you will buy what they hand you. Will hobbyists be happy with it? For the most part probably because they do not know what is wrong with it. But Athearn hasn't released their 4600 yet. So the market is still open for it. ScalesTrains has duplicated both Tangents efforts as well as Intermountains. We the hobbyist have to decide who's is more worthy of our $$$'s. For my wallet I would put my money on Tangent hands down for the Tangent/ ScaleTrains offer and on ScaleTrains for the Intermountian/ ScaleTrains offer. All I know is in less than two weeks we will find out what it is. It is fun speculating though and it is fun to try and justify our speculation. Brian |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 9:19:00 GMT -8
Seems to me we are forgetting the Tangent Scale Models freight cars, and in actual practice, I have received much better quality (individually assembled) cars from Tangent than from ExactRail (QA/QC issues were not related to Blaine's design, but assembly issues).
My request is simple: please, please make sure the product assembly quality of whatever you make is up to snuff. I can count on one hand the number of manufacturers that generally are able to accomplish that.
Personally, I do hope we see a great 86' high cube auto parts boxcar!
That is true. I have yet to come across a Tangent car that had ANY assembly or paint issues. None so far. I just went through stripping 29 Tangent PS-3 hoppers and painted them black for BN repaints. No issues at all. All the parts were seated properly and solid in place. The ONLY thing I had to do was clean up a few of the sprue boogers. Nothing to complain about though since I was stripping and repainting the cars. I am banking on Arrowhead to pay very close attention to assembly and paint as well. If Blaine is going to produce a better model, then I would think he has also listened to the customer about how tired we are of the piss poor quality in assembly and paint. Tangent being the exception. I too have a loads of Exactrail hoppers and although the assembly is complete, it is not the same car to car with some of the wire products skewed a bit and in some places the parts not seated fully. Brian |
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Post by nstophat on Jul 24, 2018 13:19:48 GMT -8
Between the ACF 4600 and the 5250, since Athearn is well along in the 4600 I'd think the next logical gaping hole to fill would be the 5250. That seems like a pretty "safe" model to offer for return on tooling investment. Nothing is sacred anymore. Will Athearn execute on it? Most likely you will buy what they hand you. Will hobbyists be happy with it? For the most part probably because they do not know what is wrong with it. But Athearn hasn't released their 4600 yet. So the market is still open for it. ScalesTrains has duplicated both Tangents efforts as well as Intermountains. We the hobbyist have to decide who's is more worthy of our $$$'s. For my wallet I would put my money on Tangent hands down for the Tangent/ ScaleTrains offer and on ScaleTrains for the Intermountian/ ScaleTrains offer. All I know is in less than two weeks we will find out what it is. It is fun speculating though and it is fun to try and justify our speculation. Brian Brian: I can assure you that Scaletrains had no intention to duplicate cars with either Tangent or IMRC, however both projects were too far along to bail on either car because a competitor was also in production. They have bailed on other projects because they had an inkling or an announcement had been made about a project of interest. Personally, I would like an ACF 5250, or could see Blaine going all of on either an autorack or a 86' auto parts box. Regards, Russ |
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Post by 12bridge on Jul 24, 2018 14:53:35 GMT -8
All these great new cars and engines...
Can we PLEASE move to scale draft gears now? Especially on engines? Please?
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