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Post by Artur on Dec 8, 2018 16:59:17 GMT -8
Is it possible to extract the sound file from a loksound decoder using a lokprogrammer? Then loading that file into another ESU decoder.
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Post by Mark R. on Dec 8, 2018 19:02:39 GMT -8
No, it's not. Most all files (except Rapido) are available for download on the ESU site. Out of the more than 100 files, there are a number of substitutes for those that aren't. ;-)
Mark.
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Post by nebrzephyr on Dec 9, 2018 11:01:17 GMT -8
Maybe I'm not understanding your question completely. But if you can read the sound file from the existing decoder, save the "project", replace the decoder with the new one, then load the saved project file into the new decoder.
That should get you 2 matching decoders(assuming the same decoder #, V4.0, etc).
Bob
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Post by Mark R. on Dec 9, 2018 14:57:13 GMT -8
Maybe I'm not understanding your question completely. But if you can read the sound file from the existing decoder, save the "project", replace the decoder with the new one, then load the saved project file into the new decoder. That should get you 2 matching decoders(assuming the same decoder #, V4.0, etc). Bob Won't work Bob. When you READ a decoder, all you are reading are the CV settings. If you remove that engine and place another on the track and hit WRITE, all you are writing are the CV settings from the old decoder to the new decoder. The sounds (software) is not readable per se. The sound file (software) is installed in the decoder - you can't READ software, only settings. Mark.
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Post by Artur on Dec 9, 2018 16:20:30 GMT -8
That sucks, I’ll have to tinker around with it. Maybe FileZilla or similar software will work.
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Post by Mark R. on Dec 9, 2018 17:24:24 GMT -8
ESU uses a proprietary file format - nothing but ESU software can utilize it or understand it. It uses a suffix .esux. The File Type Advisor page which also describe it for you .... www.filetypeadvisor.com/extension/esuxAlso note, the Lokprogrammer is the only means to open a .esux file. Mark.
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Post by nebrzephyr on Dec 10, 2018 6:57:35 GMT -8
Maybe I'm not understanding your question completely. But if you can read the sound file from the existing decoder, save the "project", replace the decoder with the new one, then load the saved project file into the new decoder. That should get you 2 matching decoders(assuming the same decoder #, V4.0, etc). Bob Won't work Bob. When you READ a decoder, all you are reading are the CV settings. If you remove that engine and place another on the track and hit WRITE, all you are writing are the CV settings from the old decoder to the new decoder. The sounds (software) is not readable per se. The sound file (software) is installed in the decoder - you can't READ software, only settings. Mark. Mark, correct. I wasn't thinking it clear through, I overlooked the sound portion of the equation. . I had used the approach I described to reset decoders to "default" values.
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Post by canrailfan on Dec 11, 2018 11:08:00 GMT -8
That sucks, I’ll have to tinker around with it. Maybe FileZilla or similar software will work. What sound file do you want to replicate? AFAIK, the only ones not available on the ESU website are Rapido's and they do sell their decoders separately, already loaded with their sound files. The price is only about $10-12 more than the price of a blank decoder. Hardly seems worth the trouble to try and read the sound program from an existing decoder.
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Post by Artur on Dec 11, 2018 12:13:58 GMT -8
That sucks, I’ll have to tinker around with it. Maybe FileZilla or similar software will work. What sound file do you want to replicate? AFAIK, the only ones not available on the ESU website are Rapido's and they do sell their decoders separately, already loaded with their sound files. The price is only about $10-12 more than the price of a blank decoder. Hardly seems worth the trouble to try and read the sound program from an existing decoder. I wanted to load the file onto my blank decoder which is already installed
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Post by Mark R. on Dec 11, 2018 14:27:12 GMT -8
What sound file do you want to replicate? AFAIK, the only ones not available on the ESU website are Rapido's and they do sell their decoders separately, already loaded with their sound files. The price is only about $10-12 more than the price of a blank decoder. Hardly seems worth the trouble to try and read the sound program from an existing decoder. I wanted to load the file onto my blank decoder which is already installed You still haven't told us what file you are wanting to replicate .... Mark.
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Post by Artur on Dec 11, 2018 18:10:16 GMT -8
I wanted to load the file onto my blank decoder which is already installed You still haven't told us what file you are wanting to replicate .... Mark. Dash 8-40CM 7FDL-V16. I wanted to load it into a 8-40CW. I guess I’ll just use the ESU sound file.
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Post by Mark R. on Dec 11, 2018 20:16:41 GMT -8
FWIW - I actually think the ESU version of any of Rapido's files are superior in recording quality. Install the ESU version and see what you think. You will probably have to do some re-mapping if you want it to match the obscure set up Jason insists on using. Or, better yet, re-map the Rapido engine to be standard with what ESU uses.
I've lost count of how many Rapido engines I've reprogrammed for customers so they match the rest of their ESU fleet.
Mark.
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Post by Artur on Dec 14, 2018 11:39:28 GMT -8
FWIW - I actually think the ESU version of any of Rapido's files are superior in recording quality. Install the ESU version and see what you think. You will probably have to do some re-mapping if you want it to match the obscure set up Jason insists on using. Or, better yet, re-map the Rapido engine to be standard with what ESU uses. I've lost count of how many Rapido engines I've reprogrammed for customers so they match the rest of their ESU fleet. Mark. Ya I noticed that, I already reprogrammed the decoder to match the ESU. that lokprogrammer was a good investment lol.
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