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Post by talltim on Jul 1, 2019 5:07:42 GMT -8
I'm going to disagree with that. I know of many clubs whose members have built stock (kits and scratcbuilding even) specifically for their club layout, not because they don't want to run their own stock, but to get prototypical trains for the location and era of the layout. I said "most", not "all" clubs. You wrote "many", not "all" clubs. You validate my point. Actually, you said 'Even the most prototypical club', i.e. as an example of the least likely to do it. Mind you the situation is different in the UK. RTR Foobies have been pretty much extinct since the 1980s (with the exception of the very cheapest train set type locos), this is partly because the various railways built their own locos so there isn't the same opportunity for the model manufacturers to produce, for example, the equivalent of an USRA loco in some prototypical schemes and many unprototypical schemes. This doesn't stop people running stock in unprototypical combinations, hell I've even run my US trains on my club's British layout (except for the ones that were too big to fit through the tunnels and past the patforms!) Also different in the UK is the fact that most club layouts are built for exhibitions. On a running night at the club you might see a bit of everything, but at an exhibition the stock will be carefully chosen. Another historical difference is that while HO is fairly accurate for track gauge, OO isn't, so many clubs builds layouts in EM and P4 gauges* which naturally proclude someone bringing their new 'shiney' purchase to run on the club layout. *18.2mm and 18.83mm track guages respectively. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jul 1, 2019 6:27:25 GMT -8
FWIF, OO scale in the US uses a 19.05mm (.750") gage. Hugely close to the P4, above.
I wonder if anyone's still doing it.
Ed
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Post by lvrr325 on Jul 1, 2019 6:45:00 GMT -8
IIRC the Empire State Express had the misfortune of being introduced on Dec 7 1941.
Coaches from that train went (eventually) to Metro North before going to both R&GV and WNY NRHS chapters. I rode them on the Ontario Midland a couple of times.
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Post by antoniofp45 on Jul 2, 2019 11:23:43 GMT -8
Ivrr325 thanks 👍🏻
I’ll plan for 2 coaches. From what I’ve heard, the rolling qualities are better than those of the Walthers Passenger cars. Iam wondering if the trucks are plastic instead of metal like the Walthers units.
On another note, I recently learned that the MTH HO New York City subway have a few dimensional discrepancies. This includes truck center to center distance, floor height, and body width. Yet, even with those issues they still look closer to the prototype then the Life Like P1K IRT subway cars from years back.
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Post by jonklein611 on Jul 2, 2019 17:18:22 GMT -8
Ivrr325 thanks 👍🏻 I’ll plan for 2 coaches. From what I’ve heard, the rolling qualities are better than those of the Walthers Passenger cars. Iam wondering if the trucks are plastic instead of metal like the Walthers units. On another note, I recently learned that the MTH HO New York City subway have a few dimensional discrepancies. This includes truck center to center distance, floor height, and body width. Yet, even with those issues they still look closer to the prototype then the Life Like P1K IRT subway cars from years back.
They have plastic trucks with metal wheels. A gentle breath can make these cars roll (they will alert you to ANY slope on your layout / sidings). Installed caps for keep alive lighting and they look sharp.
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Post by antoniofp45 on Jul 4, 2019 7:07:18 GMT -8
Ivrr325
Hey, thanks again. Good to know that the ESE cars are easy rollers. Question that comes to mind: How are the electrical “pickups” for interior lighting set up?
Walthers design works but sometimes requires a bit of fiddling with for decent operation.
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Post by espeenut on Jul 5, 2019 20:55:18 GMT -8
Whenever the topic of MTH stuff comes up there are the immediate naysayers and those who have had positive experiences, I am one of those who fell in the first category until I saw a set of Southern Pacific Daylight cars from MTH - I bought them and now I'm a believer. The only other non brass maker of these cars is BLI and their cars simply don't compare nearly as well in terms of detail and prototypical adherence. I had ordered the BLI advance release of the Daylight observation car and was familiar with what BLI was offering, when I saw the MTH cars the difference was immediately obvious. I will leave it at that, to each his own...
Cheers,
Lorne Miller
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Post by jonklein611 on Jul 8, 2019 3:27:06 GMT -8
Ivrr325 Hey, thanks again. Good to know that the ESE cars are easy rollers. Question that comes to mind: How are the electrical “pickups” for interior lighting set up? Walthers design works but sometimes requires a bit of fiddling with for decent operation. I don't recall the exacts, but I haven't had any issues with lighting (other than from dirty wheels). |
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Post by desertrails on Jul 29, 2019 13:40:06 GMT -8
MTH's stuff is for noobs. Talk about hyping ho-hum stuff up. Their catalogs are fun to read though.
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Post by GP40P-2 on Jul 29, 2019 14:59:46 GMT -8
Dude, really? Way to go pouring gasoline back on to this smoldering fire.
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Post by TBird1958 on Jul 29, 2019 16:05:38 GMT -8
I'll leave this here............  |
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Post by grabirons on Jul 29, 2019 18:36:43 GMT -8
I'll leave this here............ Okay, who else knows about the swayze express? |
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