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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Dec 15, 2019 6:21:51 GMT -8
Get to posting boys and girls...love to see all the work on the Nice list here.....
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 15, 2019 8:59:19 GMT -8
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Post by sd40dash2 on Dec 15, 2019 9:23:37 GMT -8
Hi Ryan,
"...replaced the draft gear and brake equipment with Moloco parts..."
The yellow gon looks great! I would love to see a photo of the underframe in order to satisfy my curiosity about how you mounted the new draft gear.
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 15, 2019 9:40:58 GMT -8
Hi Ryan, "...replaced the draft gear and brake equipment with Moloco parts..." The yellow gon looks great! I would love to see a photo of the underframe in order to satisfy my curiosity about how you mounted the new draft gear. I'll try to get a photo later today, but I just cut the draft gear off even with the outboard edge of the bolster then attached the Moloco part in its place. It still comes up 9 inches short of the prototype's length over the pulling faces, but it's a massive improvement over the couplers being even with the end of the body. If I do another one I'll completely rebuild the brake rigging and arrange the brake components where they belong. And I'll position the draft gear better to make it the right length.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Dec 15, 2019 9:50:19 GMT -8
How did you affix the box in place? I have never had any success putting screws through the floor of any gon without penetrating the top of the floor. I gave up in frustration and used glue which won't provide any strength in operations.
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Post by wrgmilw on Dec 15, 2019 10:15:03 GMT -8
HI Guys Great work ! I check the Sunday Photo fun topic almost every week ! I signed for Flickr to share pictures ! I have lots of work ahead to make a nice layout 1110191110c by William Gile, on Flickr
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Post by grahamline on Dec 15, 2019 10:23:35 GMT -8
How did you affix the box in place? I have never had any success putting screws through the floor of any gon without penetrating the top of the floor. I gave up in frustration and used glue which won't provide any strength in operations. I've done a few of these on gons and flats. The screw can run all the way through the floor if it is then cutoff and painted to match the car floor. If you use a permanent load, you may not even need to do that. Moloco supplies good hardware but Kadee's engineering plastic screws are easier to cut off and smooth.
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 15, 2019 11:05:22 GMT -8
How did you affix the box in place? I have never had any success putting screws through the floor of any gon without penetrating the top of the floor. I gave up in frustration and used glue which won't provide any strength in operations. Tamiya cement in the green bottle. I think it's acetone, so it's pretty much a permanent bond. If you try to pry it off the part will be destroyed before the bond is broken (been there, done that).
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 15, 2019 11:06:15 GMT -8
How did you affix the box in place? I have never had any success putting screws through the floor of any gon without penetrating the top of the floor. I gave up in frustration and used glue which won't provide any strength in operations. I've done a few of these on gons and flats. The screw can run all the way through the floor if it is then cutoff and painted to match the car floor. If you use a permanent load, you may not even need to do that. Moloco supplies good hardware but Kadee's engineering plastic screws are easier to cut off and smooth. That's really good to know about the Kadee screws. Thanks!
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Post by TBird1958 on Dec 15, 2019 11:11:36 GMT -8
Bowser covered hopper, now in locomotive sand service Kadee PS1 that's had it's roof walk removed but still has the supports and high ladders. Filthy mineral service covered hoppers.
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Post by dti406 on Dec 15, 2019 12:43:05 GMT -8
Here is what I have accomplished in the last couple of weeks. First up is an old Varney (now Life-Like) covered hopper with the basis of the car a 50 ton twin hopper car with a roof applied, this car was made by the Bettendorf Car Company (Same as the truck people) whose plant in Bettendorf, IA made the most cars west of the Mississippi, but went out of business in 1932 in the midst of the depression. The National Plate Glass Co. had a large glass plant in Ottawa, IL and was purchased by GM in the 1910's as one of their glass suppliers for automobiles, they divisted themselves of the plant in 1930 with the sale to Libbery-Owens-Ford and the promise of 7 years of supplying GM as the only supplier of glass. Car was painted with Scalecoat II Black paint and lettered with Champ Decals. Used for hauling silica sand or limestone, major components in the glass making business. Next is a Intermountain 50' PS1 boxcar, I cut down a plug door to 6' width and substituted a 10' YSD from the scrapbox supplies. Applied ladders instead of grabs to match the prototype and they were delivered with no roofwalks. Car was painted with Scalecoat II IC Orange paint and lettered with Dan Kohlbergs IC decals. Car was in general service on the IC. KATO SD-45 with added lift rings, signal box on the short hood, moved the grabs on the short hood from the engineers side to the fireman's side due to the signal box. Added a DA early MU Box to the front of the unit along with MU Cables. Painted the Body with Scalecoat II Engine Black and the trucks and fuel tank with Scalecoat II Grimy Black. Decaled with Microscale decals and used MV lenses for the Red class lights. I know Scaletrains is doing a new SD45, but I am more than happy with my KATO's and since I run a SD40 with a SD45 (like the prototype), it makes more sense to match the KATO units together. A pair of Athearn FP7's pinch hitting on the Broadway Limited! Thanks for looking! Rick Jesionowski
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Post by valenciajim on Dec 15, 2019 13:13:13 GMT -8
Great pictures everyone! I have become fascinated with gondolas over the past several months. One of the gondolas I modified required me to put the weight on the gondola floor, so I built another floor which I glued over the weight. That also allowed the couple box screws to penetrate the existing gondola floor.
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 15, 2019 13:50:12 GMT -8
Hi Ryan, "...replaced the draft gear and brake equipment with Moloco parts..." The yellow gon looks great! I would love to see a photo of the underframe in order to satisfy my curiosity about how you mounted the new draft gear.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Dec 15, 2019 14:01:55 GMT -8
Thanks for the photo, Ryan. Great idea to use that glue, solves the problem for sure. Love how you addressed the DG on this car as you'll be one of the few to do this. Good job.
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 15, 2019 14:32:02 GMT -8
Thanks for the photo, Ryan. Great idea to use that glue, solves the problem for sure. Love how you addressed the DG on this car as you'll be one of the few to do this. Good job. You're welcome! I ought to mention the floor and underframe parts were unpainted. I discovered Model Master "RLM Gelb" enamel was a good match for the body color. MM "Aluminum" enamel was used for the draft gear, trucks and new handbrake parts as well as touch up in areas where the factory paint was a bit thin. You know, if decals were an option, I think I'd do this again by cutting down an ExactRail gondola. I'd still use Moloco draft gear, but I could keep everything else and have a killer looking car.
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Post by grahamline on Dec 15, 2019 14:56:05 GMT -8
Really like that IC boxcar.
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Dec 15, 2019 18:29:04 GMT -8
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Post by csxt8400 on Dec 15, 2019 19:05:04 GMT -8
Good stuff guys. Ryan, as a huge fan of gons and coil cars I can appreciate that simple black gon!
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Post by kpack on Dec 16, 2019 12:03:35 GMT -8
A little late to the party, but here's what's on my bench right now. TrinityRail 82' refrigerator car for BNSF. I took two ExactRail TrinCool 64' reefers and chopped them up. I then spliced the pieces together in the correct dimensions. I'll be totally honest....my scratchbashing work needs help. I'd give my splicing and subsequent body work a solid 5/10. Hopefully the weathering will hide most of the imperfections. The curved roof was a bit of a puzzle, but I think what I did works. I 3D printed new jack pads but I think I made the hole too large. I'll get around to printing some correct ones and pop these ones off. Still working on the end cage. There are, unfortunately, a lot of issues with the Microscale sheet for these cars. Sizing is wrong on quite a bit of it. So far my model has lots of imperfections, but I got tired of waiting for someone to manufacturer one. -Kevin
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Post by edgecrusher on Dec 16, 2019 12:57:12 GMT -8
I don't have a whole lot to show, but I did have a productive weekend. (kids at grandparents & wife working all weekend.) I managed to run DCC bus wires and hook up some feeders. Also got two tortoise's mounted and aligned. It's amazing how fast time passes while doing seemingly simple stuff like this.
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Post by fr8kar on Dec 16, 2019 13:01:18 GMT -8
Wow, Kevin! That's awesome.
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Post by cr9617 on Dec 16, 2019 17:08:25 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 17:58:36 GMT -8
A little late to the party, but here's what's on my bench right now. TrinityRail 82' refrigerator car for BNSF. I took two ExactRail TrinCool 64' reefers and chopped them up. I then spliced the pieces together in the correct dimensions. I'll be totally honest....my scratchbashing work needs help. I'd give my splicing and subsequent body work a solid 5/10. Hopefully the weathering will hide most of the imperfections. The curved roof was a bit of a puzzle, but I think what I did works. I 3D printed new jack pads but I think I made the hole too large. I'll get around to printing some correct ones and pop these ones off. Still working on the end cage. There are, unfortunately, a lot of issues with the Microscale sheet for these cars. Sizing is wrong on quite a bit of it. So far my model has lots of imperfections, but I got tired of waiting for someone to manufacturer one. -Kevin Well, we should see them mass produced now that somebody has finally built one.
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Post by drolsen on Dec 16, 2019 20:23:10 GMT -8
Ryan, your gondola projects are excellent! I feel like that's one type of freight car that we we could use a lot more quality models of. You did a great job of creating some unique models.
One technique I use to mount Moloco coupler boxes on this type of car (or hoppers with their open ends) is to use a piece of styrene rod (or sprue) instead of the mounting screw that goes through the floor. I glue the coupler box in place, then drill through the screw mounting hold into the floor above, glue a piece of styrene rod in the hole, and slide off the excess on top. Clean up with putty / filler if needed. I think of it as a way of permanently integrating the coupler box into the floor with a solid glue bond. This work a little better on the non-cushioned Moloco pockets, where the single screw that's closer to the striker can hold the lid on, but it can be done with cushioned draft gear too.
Dave Olsen
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Post by kpack on Dec 16, 2019 20:33:58 GMT -8
A little late to the party, but here's what's on my bench right now. TrinityRail 82' refrigerator car for BNSF. I took two ExactRail TrinCool 64' reefers and chopped them up. I then spliced the pieces together in the correct dimensions. I'll be totally honest....my scratchbashing work needs help. I'd give my splicing and subsequent body work a solid 5/10. Hopefully the weathering will hide most of the imperfections. The curved roof was a bit of a puzzle, but I think what I did works. I 3D printed new jack pads but I think I made the hole too large. I'll get around to printing some correct ones and pop these ones off. Still working on the end cage. There are, unfortunately, a lot of issues with the Microscale sheet for these cars. Sizing is wrong on quite a bit of it. So far my model has lots of imperfections, but I got tired of waiting for someone to manufacturer one. -Kevin Well, we should see them mass produced now that somebody has finally built one. I figured I'd break the ice so that we can all benefit. I say at least a year, then hopefully these will be on the market.
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Post by Funnelfan on Dec 16, 2019 22:53:56 GMT -8
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Post by slowfreight on Dec 17, 2019 8:35:52 GMT -8
Almost done turning this old Tyco kit into a accurate model. Took almost 10 hours of research for each hour of modeling to figure out key details. Poured many hours into making the best example of a later 70s era Burger King. The first ones in Spokane and Coeur d'Alene exactly like this one opened in 1978. Now part of a commercial district on the River City Modelers layout in Spokane. That is absolutely outstanding! I have a Vollmer Burger King that I'd like to use, but I'm dreading the research phase. These big companies are so good at updating their images that like you said, the research is intense just to figure out how to backdate and recreate the graphics. But it really sets the bar on realism when these "everyday" models we all recognize are done right. Please feel free to post more details.
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Post by riogrande on Dec 17, 2019 8:45:39 GMT -8
Have it your way! or was that Wendy's?
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Post by snootie3257 on Dec 17, 2019 9:26:01 GMT -8
Have it your way! or was that Wendy's? That was Burger King. Steve
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Post by riogrande on Dec 17, 2019 9:52:46 GMT -8
Memory was fuzzy on that. Maybe it was Wendy's that had the "where's the beef" with Clara Peller commercial.
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