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Post by railmodeltroy14 on Jan 28, 2020 19:43:04 GMT -8
Three SKU's of the Tangent caboose sold out in less than 96 hours. Crazy! Learned my lesson on the Tangent CSX quad hoppers a few years ago...all 12 numbers were gone in no time. The recent release of the CSX grain hoppers are sold out. I ordered the Chessie caboose late Friday night and they are history. RMT
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Post by el3672 on Jan 28, 2020 19:56:35 GMT -8
Yeah selling like hot cakes and warm syrup ...... just ordered the last one of the '73 green safety and '75 white. Why? Don't know just likem... waiting on my early blue & Y
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Post by csxt8400 on Jan 28, 2020 20:06:26 GMT -8
I was almost in the "Don't need one, but got one" camp with most of you here. Unfortunately the preorders are thick this year, so I have to be a little less impulsive. I too had my eye on that white one!
Happy for Tangent on their first caboose offering.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 8:05:54 GMT -8
...patiently waiting for the next announcement.
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Post by railmodeltroy14 on Jan 29, 2020 8:12:25 GMT -8
Mine arrived this morning to p.o.box...typical excellent product and customer service from Tangent.
I do like their approach...here they are...buy 'em...and they are off to the next project.
No pre-ordering!
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Post by 12bridge on Jan 29, 2020 8:19:24 GMT -8
Unboxing my undec right now, holy crap it has alot of parts!
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Jan 29, 2020 8:27:43 GMT -8
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jan 29, 2020 8:38:37 GMT -8
So jealous of you guys who have yours already. I just received my tracking number, so still a week or two before I see mine. I guess this is the excitement of the hobby these days, anticipation for arrival of shipments.
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Post by 12bridge on Jan 29, 2020 8:44:19 GMT -8
I would be surprised if it did not have more then that.
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Post by csx3305 on Jan 29, 2020 9:19:39 GMT -8
So then, now that we have plenty of SP, ATSF, and now Chessie cabooses, what’s left in the road specific plastic caboose market? I know there’s plenty yet left untouched, but what are the heavy hitters? SOU for one.
PC? UP?
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Post by cera2254 on Jan 29, 2020 9:25:47 GMT -8
Would love to see accurate plastic NYC/PC/CR long transfer cabooses, N9s IIRC.
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Post by riogrande on Jan 29, 2020 9:31:42 GMT -8
UP seems like a good candidate. But when you look on Ebay, there are a lot of brass UP cabooses, and some at fairly attractive (that is for brass) prices so it almost seems there is a small glut of brass UP cabooses out there. I just watched an Overland brass D&RGW painted EV caboose go for $450, which is high. I don't know if D&RGW is a heavy hitter but most of Overland brass cabooses have been selling for high prices. I believe Athearn Genesis will be running a D&RGW EV as part of their Genesis series at some point. Interestingly, Trainworx is offering an N scale version of the shop built D&RGW 01400 series cabooses.
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Post by fr8kar on Jan 29, 2020 10:16:42 GMT -8
Rock Island bay windows in four major groups. Some went to UP, some to CNW. The distinctive Mopac EV caboose is another missing model.
BN and SOO had large numbers of EV cabooses. The Atlas model is a decent starting point for many of those BN cabooses and the recent Walthers model covers about 2/3 of SOO cabooses, but a high quality model of each would still be welcome.
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Post by 12bridge on Jan 29, 2020 10:49:36 GMT -8
Some proper transfer cabooses would be great, even after Bluford has flooded the market with theirs.
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Post by nsfantodd on Jan 29, 2020 16:28:52 GMT -8
I'll take several Southern bay windows ! I have a ton of prototype data on the Southern bay windows as well as CAD drawings I made from the data. The CAD was my contribution to a package some dedicated Southern folks provided to WrightTrak about 19-20 years ago when they were developing their resin kit. I'd be happy to provide what I have to David if he wants to pursue this caboose. Ryan, That's a generous offer and I hope David will take you up on it! I had an Overland models version years ago and sold it??!! I dont know what I was thinking!
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Post by Frank on Jan 29, 2020 16:45:33 GMT -8
So then, now that we have plenty of SP, ATSF, and now Chessie cabooses, what’s left in the road specific plastic caboose market? I know there’s plenty yet left untouched, but what are the heavy hitters? SOU for one. PC? UP? SOU would be a huge hit, right now the most accurate version are the impossible to find Wright Trak resin kits. Huge following for that railroad, I would buy a few. The old Wright Trak kits are also still the only source of mostly accurate ACL/SCL M-5 cabooses. Of course, nothing quite compares to Tangent so I imagine they could do any caboose and sell out as quickly as this run seems to be going out of stock.
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Post by packer on Jan 29, 2020 17:35:24 GMT -8
I would be surprised if it did not have more then that. Want to count them? Lol So then, now that we have plenty of SP, ATSF, and now Chessie cabooses, what’s left in the road specific plastic caboose market? I know there’s plenty yet left untouched, but what are the heavy hitters? SOU for one. PC? UP? I’d like to see some BN cabooses, but could use GN, NP, CB&Q, or SP&S.
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Post by elfan on Jan 29, 2020 19:55:35 GMT -8
Very surprised to hear these models are close to selling out. Glad I let my impulse buy occur! I guess the quicker they get their funds back,the quicker they can allocate them toward production of a new model. It also shows there is a pent up market for caboose models,which all the manufacturers I’ve ever talked to in the past said wasn’t big enough to warrant producing. Another claim made by the manufacturers was cabooses are too road specific. They all said that was the niche of the small run resin guys. I think the finite road specific detail to which the loco market has risen to has made that argument not as valid as once believed.I think Tangent just proved it somewhat. Unless,of course,they only produced a very small number, on the scale of a brass manufacturer. At the price point these models were at,I would think they would have to produce a sizable number of units to make it profitable. which brings to mind a question. In the current era of limited model runs,what is the number of pieces that would normally be produced for a given model?
Tom
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Post by heymccall on Jan 29, 2020 20:33:52 GMT -8
I usually just lurk here, but, I just had to add my $.02 worth. I purchased three of these (I hope). The budget takes a hit, but these models will, most likely, never come around again. I missed the SMD I-12 cabeese, and I haven't seen any in Chessie anywhere for sale since they were produced. I saw a post the other day looking for a Circus WM loco, and I couldn't even find a Bachmann GP in Circus or the Speed Lettering online (of which I have one). Biggest problem is budgeting for the Genesis ICCs, but, if I dont get them now, I'll never find them again.
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 29, 2020 23:55:42 GMT -8
I've always been surprised that the NYC-PC-CR bay window has never been done outside of Wright Trak's kit. Either the riveted ones or the 1980-ish welded ones.
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Jan 30, 2020 0:06:42 GMT -8
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Jan 30, 2020 3:29:27 GMT -8
The Southern Rwy Historical Society picked up the Wright Trak Southern models didn't they ?
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Post by brammy on Jan 30, 2020 6:32:38 GMT -8
Mine arrived this morning to p.o.box...typical excellent product and customer service from Tangent. I do like their approach...here they are...buy 'em...and they are off to the next project. No pre-ordering! I mentioned that to them at the show. I do like it. I get Rapido doing pre-orders for their runs, but I'd be happier if Athearn just released the darn things.
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Post by brammy on Jan 30, 2020 6:33:49 GMT -8
I was at the show on Sat and told David if he did an Erie/EL bay window I’d buy ten. He asked me which version. I replied either the early rivited version or the modern welded version. If he does both I’d buy fifteen. He showed interest and said a few others had expressed my same desire,so maybe he can be convinced. If you read this DL, I can’t think of a better manufacturer than Tangent to bring them to market! Tom PS. Bought a B&O caboose just because! Lol Is there a good reference for the different cabooses the EL used? It's a gap in my EL knowledge I want to fix.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Jan 30, 2020 8:00:26 GMT -8
So then, now that we have plenty of SP, ATSF, and now Chessie cabooses, what’s left in the road specific plastic caboose market? I know there’s plenty yet left untouched, but what are the heavy hitters? SOU for one. PC? UP?
There is a lack of CP steel end, streamlined, center cabooses in their original plus rebuilt versions. These originated in the late 1940s and the final survivor was used until it was scrapped in 2012.
There's also potential for another run of the 1970-81 wide visions in shoving platform configuration.
CN modellers would also appreciate the steel Hawkers, transfer bays and another run of the PSCs. The latter seem to be selling for around $350 right now, same price as brass and almost 4x the price when TLT released them just 3 years ago in late 2016.
Plenty of demand for steel cabooses right now.
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Post by Christian on Jan 30, 2020 8:32:32 GMT -8
Plenty of demand for steel cabooses right now. The Athearn ICC caboose was the basis of many, many kitbashes. Despite it being a very odd prototype - Rock Island, I think I remember. The later Atlas ICC caboose was a much better foundation for kitbashing. There were/are aftermarket parts for the Atlas caboose. And there is the Walthers which is yet another prototype. I believe Moloco had/has parts and cupolas. And there are a gazillion prototype specific parts on Shapeways. Tangent has now given us two assortments of ICC parts. Bodies, trucks, etched and wire details, interior and so forth. I'm not going to lead any kitbash charge - but the available parts for any ICC caboose has taken a quantum leap. For those who look beyond the box.
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Post by cp6027 on Jan 30, 2020 12:56:26 GMT -8
So then, now that we have plenty of SP, ATSF, and now Chessie cabooses, what’s left in the road specific plastic caboose market? I know there’s plenty yet left untouched, but what are the heavy hitters? SOU for one. PC? UP?
There is a lack of CP steel end, streamlined, center cabooses in their original plus rebuilt versions. These originated in the late 1940s and the final survivor was used until it was scrapped in 2012.
There's also potential for another run of the 1970-81 wide visions in shoving platform configuration.
CN modellers would also appreciate the steel Hawkers, transfer bays and another run of the PSCs. The latter seem to be selling for around $350 right now, same price as brass and almost 4x the price when TLT released them just 3 years ago in late 2016.
Plenty of demand for steel cabooses right now.
I agree with everything in this post with one exception: I'd rather have another run of the Rapido CP Angus van in normal 70s-80s service and not a shoving platform. I have a bunch of the Rapido CP Angus van but could use a few more (or some variety with the steel end cupola design) to round out the fleet. I'm currently supplementing the Angus vans with a few TLT wooden CP models that are really a stretch for my era, even in yard/transfer service. The CN H-S and transfer designs would also be a must for me. In one of the Rapido newsletters it was mentioned that somebody on the Rapido team was pushing for another Canadian (if I recall correctly) caboose model. Price seemed to be an obstacle but perhaps the recent Tangent and Athearn offerings would help certain price points seem more reasonable.
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Post by 12bridge on Jan 30, 2020 18:45:24 GMT -8
It is worth noting that Tangent went with a plastic roof walk, not etched.
Which frankly, I think its fantastic. Its nice to see a properly rendered plastic roof walk. Etched parts are just too flat, and we all know about the warping issues, whereas the plastic one, no issues with warping, and it correctly showcases the proper thickness of the actual grating.
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Post by thebessemerkid on Jan 31, 2020 5:18:20 GMT -8
I'm anxious to see how the plastic roofwalk turned out. My order shipped yesterday so will be watching for the mailman.
All the Red/Orange/Yellow Chessies are sold out, but listed as to be rerun (different numbers, I'd imagine). One of the blue B&O's is also also out.
Guessing the next run will also have original B&O blue sans screens.
What a home run. Hopefully inspires David to do more. Lots of preserved cabins about, give a yell if you need us to go out and fetch pics and measurements.
Definitive Erie/EL/NYC/P&LE/NKP/B&LE/PC/C&O and probably others I missed would all get multiple # orders.
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 31, 2020 6:06:30 GMT -8
...and it correctly showcases the proper thickness of the actual grating.
Yes!! Somebody finally said it. The popular etched running boards just look like perforated metal strips if you scale them up to full size. They don't look like a 3-D grating, like they should.
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