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Post by sd40dash2 on Jan 20, 2021 18:29:08 GMT -8
^ Sure thing.
I am disappointed that they didn't tool up the correct trucks for this given their "all new model from rails to roof" statement.
As for the overall model, I agree that it's actually quite crude in many ways and should be rebuilt the way I did the four SOO cabooses I posted about earlier. That means rebuilt underframe with Plano steps, Moloco draft gear, remove the huge chunk of plastic inside the body and replace with flush fitting acetate for the windows. Plus of course install a bunch of grabs, air whistle, hoses, lines, uncoupling levers and weathering. Not doing these things means you end up with a fairly crude model by modern standards. The red GN X74 and X84 are the most accurate as we've been discussing so I would imagine those will sell out first. If you want those you may not see them for another 5-10 years or more, so now's the time to decide.
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Post by kmaster on Jan 27, 2021 11:13:33 GMT -8
These cabeese are really nice looking, the tangent BO/Chessie ones look very nice,I don't personally own one but I do know people who do. They are great cabs
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Post by NYSW3614 on Mar 12, 2021 11:30:07 GMT -8
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Post by sd40dash2 on Mar 12, 2021 11:57:40 GMT -8
^ Thanks very much for posting. Wow this looks very promising indeed, nice to see a new high quality plastic caboose and at such a reasonable price too!
Three styles of truck: Andrews, Birdsboro and Taylor
Two different cupola roofs
Two-tread or three-tread steps
Two different sides – standard and Lehigh Valley with rain gutters above the windows.
Three different ends walls – Solid (RDG, CNJ), single window (LV) and double window (WM)
Two running boards: Integral diamond-tread and Alan Wood Superior
Multiple optional parts including stacks, window blanks, etched window frames and screens, tool boxes and more!
Full underbody detail
Turned metal wheels
Operating interior lights*
Factory-equipped with Kadee #158 couplers
So while it seems this will have interior lights, but no interior furniture, is that right?
Congrats to those modelling this!
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Post by mdvle on Mar 12, 2021 13:04:28 GMT -8
I have put in a question to Rapido about the interior, will post if I get a response.
What does need to be said though is well done to all of those modellers and customers who reacted in a positive manner to the Athearn Genesis ICC caboose and it's price point - by demonstrating a willingness to pay a reasonable price for a unique piece of rolling stock they have told the various manufacturers that there is potential in tooling up the caboose in a modern detailed form.
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Post by ambluco on Mar 12, 2021 13:31:57 GMT -8
I see no mention of round end windows. Maybe a future release? Hopefully. The LV had plenty.
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Post by mdvle on Mar 12, 2021 14:19:20 GMT -8
Following is the response from Rapido regarding the question of an interior:
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Post by markfj on Mar 13, 2021 6:06:53 GMT -8
Here is a photo of a Duryea cushion underframe being unloaded by the Reading. I think I posted this one before, but it is still an interesting photo. Wonder why they didn’t use a flat car and load them stacked one on top of the other.  Thanks, Mark |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Mar 13, 2021 7:05:11 GMT -8
Wonder why they didn’t use a flat car and load them stacked one on top of the other. Load shifting/restraint is my guess. As the stack of underframes gets higher on a flat, there is lessening ability by the side stakes and whatever else they would have put on to restrain the top underframe--weighing how many tons? With a gon, all of the underframes would have been equally supported. And, at least in theory, the ends of the gon will restrain movement towards the ends . Of course, that line of reasoning implies thoughtful intent. There's also the possibility that the car "seemed like a good idea at the time" to somebody clueless but in authority. Ed |
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Mar 15, 2021 21:22:33 GMT -8
Interior lighting is such a waste. Most model railroaders don’t model nighttime and real railroaders (I’m one) don’t leave the lights on long. I’m sure they didn’t then either on locomotives or cabooses!Only lights a caboose needs is either Rear End Flashers (like an EOT) or perhaps class light type markers.
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Post by fr8kar on Mar 16, 2021 9:53:37 GMT -8
Interior lighting is such a waste. Most model railroaders don’t model nighttime and real railroaders (I’m one) don’t leave the lights on long. I’m sure they didn’t then either on locomotives or cabooses!Only lights a caboose needs is either Rear End Flashers (like an EOT) or perhaps class light type markers. I agree and I hate to see effort wasted on gimmicky lighting. Accessory lights beyond headlights and markers on the exterior? Eh, okay if that floats your boat, but interior lighting? Nah. Waste of money to me. Screams Lionel. |
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Post by slowfreight on Mar 16, 2021 11:05:23 GMT -8
Also screams Athearn blue box with the giant light bracket in the cab.
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Post by lvrr325 on Mar 18, 2021 11:07:37 GMT -8
What got me was the Athearn caboose with sound. Even the ones without have a decoder to control the lights. It's nice but not features I need. As long as there's enough interior you can't see through where you're not supposed to see I'm good.
One problem with the old Proto lighted cars is the whole car would glow because the inside was unpainted.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Aug 9, 2021 10:44:09 GMT -8
Seems things have gotten quiet on the caboose front lately. Has anyone heard of anything new (besides new paint jobs on previously tooled models) coming down the pipe?
I see from Tangent's newsletters they are still planning on some new caboose releases in the coming months. Here's hoping their next project will be the much-needed CP end cupola van.
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Post by riogrande on Aug 9, 2021 13:54:32 GMT -8
Seems Athearn has taken a break from the icc cabooses. I'm hoping for a DRGW in the next run whenever that is.
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Post by cemr5396 on Aug 10, 2021 11:52:12 GMT -8
Walthers has just announced a run of Proto cabooses based on the DMIR Class G2 in several different road names.
Interestingly, DMIR is NOT one of them.
I imagine it's a safe bet these are probably all foobies.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Aug 10, 2021 12:34:59 GMT -8
^ Thanks for the response in this thread. While certainly a beautiful model, the Walthers G2 caboose is not new. Sounds like they are just selling some more paint jobs on an existing model. DMIR painted version was released in 2016.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Aug 18, 2021 4:35:37 GMT -8
As it seems that all-new caboose releases and news postings in this thread have again stalled, I started a new thread to discuss what is still needed. Hopefully we don't see another 15-20 year gap with little to no new RTR plastic model releases in the hobby.
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Post by heymccall on Sept 3, 2021 20:07:11 GMT -8
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Post by riogrande on Sept 3, 2021 20:26:09 GMT -8
Looks like Tangent disagrees with those who thought demand for cabooses was falling off.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Sept 4, 2021 4:30:17 GMT -8
^ Indeed! The era of “one size fits all” cabooses in HO scale plastic is over. |
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Post by sd40dash2 on Sept 4, 2021 4:31:58 GMT -8
P.S. Above two posts are referencing the RTR plastic Conrail et al N7 bay window caboose that Tangent announced for immediate ordering on 9-3-21.
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Post by lvrr325 on Sept 4, 2021 15:17:46 GMT -8
Looks like Tangent disagrees with those who thought demand for cabooses was falling off. Correct cabooses are always hot. In fact when someone does a run that's correct for you, you should snap some right up, because once they're sold out the prices only go up, unless you get lucky at a show. |
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Post by riogrande on Sept 4, 2021 16:07:31 GMT -8
Yep
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Post by sd40dash2 on Oct 9, 2021 17:52:17 GMT -8
Some schemes of the N7 bay window RTR are now sold out at Tangent. It seems like this was another very successful product for them as they continue to raise their own bar in the hobby. Good job Tangent!
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Oct 27, 2021 2:03:13 GMT -8
Shall we play the prediction game again? What caboose will Tangent produce next? I'd be surprised if it's not a Southern bay window since lots of people are asking for those.
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Post by sd40dash2 on Oct 27, 2021 3:19:20 GMT -8
^ I heard Tangent was planning a surprise run of CP steel end cupola vans in 4 numbers of all schemes, eras and variations. Available for easy click-buy immediate ordering along with high-quality specialized kits, documentation and parts available through their website at the same time. That will be followed by 3 pages of thread here filled with excited posts saying things like "just ordered 4 and got my tracking number!", regardless if they model CP or not. That will finally silence the armchair experts and naysayers here who keep telling us ONE 35 year old musty brass van or plastic foobie is all anyone who models CP will buy for their layout.  |
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Post by Gino Damen on Oct 27, 2021 3:55:47 GMT -8
Shall we play the prediction game again? What caboose will Tangent produce next? I'd be surprised if it's not a Southern bay window since lots of people are asking for those.
A true prototypical Southern Caboose.....? Count me in!
Gino
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Post by riogrande on Oct 27, 2021 4:49:05 GMT -8
Whatever caboose Tangent does next will probably not be anything western, but I'd be happy to be wrong about it. The ironic thing is during the past 25 years I've lived in territory that Tangent has or probably will make cabooses in.  |
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Post by gevohogger on Oct 27, 2021 5:01:59 GMT -8
The clock is ticking.... The "Two Years of the Caboose" will be over in a couple months.
2022 is "The Year of the Carbon Black Hopper".
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