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Post by nebrzephyr on Mar 20, 2021 5:28:40 GMT -8
Did I miss it? Where's the Santa Fe version. Hopefully the "red" is better than the Scale Trains version . Bob
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Post by mdvle on Mar 20, 2021 6:13:09 GMT -8
Did I miss it? Where's the Santa Fe version. Hopefully the "red" is better than the Scale Trains version . Bob
These samples are from the first run announcement (August 2020), the SF is being offered in the just announced 2nd run.
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Post by nebrzephyr on Mar 20, 2021 8:37:51 GMT -8
Oops! So right. Guess I wasn't thinking 1st and 2nd runs since I just reserved 2 Santa Fe units.
Bob
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Post by middledivision on Mar 22, 2021 11:50:17 GMT -8
Just a heads up to anyone who orders a G2 Triclops or Dash9, if your engine arrives with roller bearing caps missing, don’t expect Athearn to replace them. A friend’s BNSF unit was missing two and when he contacted Athearn help they said “the parts we got from China are not for customers “. They should learn a lesson from Scale Trains and include extras.
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Post by upcsx on Mar 22, 2021 11:55:18 GMT -8
Athearn's customer service stinks I got a CSX 60ft boxcar and one truck is broken they will not send me a new one.
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Post by ambluco on Mar 22, 2021 12:50:51 GMT -8
A new car or a new truck?
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Post by upcsx on Mar 22, 2021 13:16:06 GMT -8
The truck was broken on the 60ft boxcar just one.
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Post by ambluco on Mar 22, 2021 13:37:55 GMT -8
No, they refuse to send a new truck or a whole new car?
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Post by upcsx on Mar 22, 2021 13:47:01 GMT -8
The 60 ft boxcar is ok they refuse to replace one truck.
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Post by riogrande on Mar 22, 2021 13:55:12 GMT -8
Outright refusal or are they just taking too long to get back to you?
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Post by edwardsutorik on Mar 22, 2021 15:15:22 GMT -8
Athearn's customer service stinks I got a CSX 60ft boxcar and one truck is broken they will not send me a new one. In retail sales, you usually go deal with the person/store you bought it from. Ed
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Post by raptorengineer on Mar 23, 2021 8:52:07 GMT -8
Just a heads up to anyone who orders a G2 Triclops or Dash9, if your engine arrives with roller bearing caps missing, don’t expect Athearn to replace them. A friend’s BNSF unit was missing two and when he contacted Athearn help they said “the parts we got from China are not for customers “. They should learn a lesson from Scale Trains and include extras. oh really darn. i got cp sd60m and once i added the decoder and sound i walked to pc to add sound file and later on i looked and one of the roller bearing caps fell off. and i just called athearn 10mins ago but someone in parts department was busy on phone. well i guess it time for me to turn this house upside down if you can't get extra roller bearing caps. i will say i love that new light pin board. makes removing shell so easy.
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Post by mdvle on Mar 23, 2021 14:24:44 GMT -8
Athearn Train Tuesday - March 23 2021 Guest - Tony Cook (shows up at 0:05) 0:05 - Roundhouse Gondolas 0:15 - Roundhouse ACF 5250 Hoppers 0:39 - N scale 1:06 - Prime for Grime contest 1:12 - Trainworld virtual event - Wed. March 24th 5:30 EDT - Jim & Tony Cook presenting the Dash-9 samples - Tony claims to show pink walkway pictures - event on Facebook and YouTube 1:24 - Q&A - Virtual Railfan - Elkhart IN - what do they think of the CP & KCS mergers - TC: don't know, see what happens J: interesting to see what happens - ATSF SD45-2B - great suggestion, use the suggestion email. YouTube link
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Post by stevewagner on Mar 23, 2021 16:19:17 GMT -8
Tuesday, March 23, 8:12 p.m. EDT
mdvie, once again, I thank you for your summary of an Athearn Tuesday session. I was so busy doing things for my family and walking outside in beautiful Spring warmth that I'd forgotten to tune in myself at 4:30 p.m. Eastern. I've now watched the part of the video I was most interested in seeing.
I think I'm a bit older than either James Wiggin or Tony Cook. MDC's 30' flatcar was not, as I remember, Model Die Casting's first plastic car. I think it produced plastic 40' boxcars, at least, similar to Athearn blue box kits and assembled cars, but with what I learned later were Superior doors, not t he Youngstown's Athearn's counterparts used, and with solid metal underframes earlier. Maybe also 50' boxcars.
The line on which the North Stratford RR operated was not originally Boston & Maine but rather Maine Central. The eras on the .pdf pages shown don't all correspond to those shown in the renderings of the models. If Athearn posts its next monthly announcements this Friday I'll be looking for improvements. To quote Alexander Pope, ca. 1700, "Hope springs eternal in the human breast ".
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Post by mdvle on Mar 23, 2021 18:00:49 GMT -8
If Athearn posts its next monthly announcements this Friday I'll be looking for improvements. To quote Alexander Pope, ca. 1700, "Hope springs eternal in the human breast ".
Jim did mention that he would be on Friday at 4:30 EDT with the new announcements so hopefully we don't get a repeat of the PDF problems again.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Mar 23, 2021 20:08:55 GMT -8
I think I'm a bit older than either James Wiggin or Tony Cook. MDC's 30' flatcar was not, as I remember, Model Die Casting's first plastic car. I think it produced plastic 40' boxcars, at least, similar to Athearn blue box kits and assembled cars, but with what I learned later were Superior doors, not t he Youngstown's Athearn's counterparts used, and with solid metal underframes earlier. Maybe also 50' boxcars. I remember the MDC PS (plastic) covered hoppers as coming out in early 1963, as I remember building one that summer. So, did the shorty flat come before or after that one? I don't think MDC had any 50' boxes of any kind, at this time. I kind of think that MDC did a kupla of these new plastic kits before they plasticized their old stuff. Just another excuse to thumb through old train magazines! Ed PS: my recollection also is that the shorty MDC flat was a Milwaukee car. Milwaukee had cars 60110-601117, 100 ton cars.
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Post by mdvle on Mar 26, 2021 13:56:23 GMT -8
Athearn April Announcements 0:04 - Genesis F units 0:13 - Genesis ICC Caboose 0:15 - Genesis Tank Train 0:18 - Genesis 50' PC&F Boxcar 0:21 - RTR ACF 2970 0:24 - RTR FMC 60' Boxcar 0:28 - RTR 40' Ballast 0:31 - RTR Husky Stack Car 0:34 - RTR 48' Container 0:37 - Roundhouse 50' ACF Boxcar 0:40 - N Scale 0:49 - Q&A - Virtual Railfan - Galesburg IL - shirts? - SD70ACU shirts in progress - SD60M bearing caps - working on a solution (approx 0:57) - CSX Coke Express Hoppers - if enough interest would take a serious look - Boston MBTA - commuter rail interesting segment - California Cars! - Spokane Portland & Seattle pre 64 F7A's - really important railroad, unfortunately don't get much demand for models, could change if demand changes (ie. send in your requests to the email address) YouTube link
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Post by mdvle on Mar 26, 2021 13:58:34 GMT -8
Just a heads up to anyone who orders a G2 Triclops or Dash9, if your engine arrives with roller bearing caps missing, don’t expect Athearn to replace them. A friend’s BNSF unit was missing two and when he contacted Athearn help they said “the parts we got from China are not for customers “. They should learn a lesson from Scale Trains and include extras.
I mentioned it in my summary, but to give it greater prominence Athearn addressed the issue in today's announcement video after a question was asked - they have heard from many people and they are working on a solution.
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Post by middledivision on Mar 27, 2021 7:34:46 GMT -8
A solution to a problem that should not exist. Just include extras. Like the company started by the former Athearn employees do! I was lucky, my Soo unit has all it's caps and is stunning.
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Post by csxt8400 on Mar 27, 2021 10:23:07 GMT -8
I was lucky and ordered mine through my local shop. The unit he brought out had a few bearings missing and even an entire axle housing. He pulled the same SKU off the shelf, it also had one bearing missing, so I scavenged another bearing from the worse of the two and was on my way.
Pretty bad to be raiding these things for spare parts! Besides that debacle, I'm very impressed with my UP version.
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Post by mdvle on Mar 27, 2021 12:11:58 GMT -8
Not saying it's the case, or an excuse, but I suspect one of the problems all of the manufacturers are running into is the inability to visit the factories for over 12 months now. Which has perhaps allowed some of the factories a bit more leeway than they should have.
Certainly Rapido seemed to indicate 3 to 4 (or more) visits a year, and while they don't give frequency the others also mention periodic visits.
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Post by mdvle on Mar 30, 2021 13:57:31 GMT -8
Athearn Train Tuesday - March 30th 2021 0:04 - Genesis F units 0:29 - Genesis ICC cabooses - SAL version result of feedback to Athearn email address 0:36 - Prime for Grime contest - featuring some entries 0:46 - In stock now - RTR ACF 2970 0:48 - Q&A - Virtual Railfan - Forth Worth TX - were the ICC cabooses a success? - outstanding success - what other cabooses coming? - depends on feedback - Athearn stickers would be cool - they are working on them - IGC long porch cabooses - great idea - new run of BN city theme trailers - can't remember when they were last run - Amtrak 50th P42s - a bit of a non answer with a see what happens ending YouTube link
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Post by lars on Mar 30, 2021 16:53:33 GMT -8
A third of the way through the year and no GP40, AC4400CW or SW1500 yet. I wonder if we'll see any of those from Athearn in 2021.
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Post by markfj on Mar 30, 2021 17:33:35 GMT -8
I was wondering the same thing. And no comments on the GP38 either.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Mar 30, 2021 19:13:48 GMT -8
And no Empire Builder SDP40F's.
The world's gone to hell.
Ed
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Post by middledivision on Mar 31, 2021 7:45:29 GMT -8
A third of the way through the year and no GP40, AC4400CW or SW1500 yet. I wonder if we'll see any of those from Athearn in 2021. The fact that Athearn and Scale Trains have not offered the AC4400 is a head scratcher. Maybe they think it will steal sales from the Dash 9's and Gevos.
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Post by mdvle on Mar 31, 2021 7:57:42 GMT -8
They have both said that the AC4400 is coming - they both simply want to get some runs of the Dash-9 done to pay off that tooling and generate some cash flow before bringing out the AC4400.
The last ScaleTrains Q&A they said they wanted to get some more Dash-9 runs done - though given the nature of the duelling AC4400's both sides will be keeping things secretive.
I would guess that we will have an up to date AC4400 by late 2022, though there is a chance either/both may release this year.
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Post by lars on Mar 31, 2021 8:42:58 GMT -8
One would think given that each side has stated or implied that they would do an AC4400 that there would be a race to be the first to market. I know I would want to snap up as much as that market as I could and keep my competitor from getting it. I don't know their balance sheets, but I for darn sure wouldn't give up the opportunity cost of losing sales in the wait to pay off some tooling.
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Post by middledivision on Mar 31, 2021 9:26:38 GMT -8
^^^ Agreed. Scale Trains had enough capital to do the SDL39. Head to head, I prefer ST but if Athearn was first with the AC4400, I would grab a few.
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Post by NS4122 on Mar 31, 2021 9:33:38 GMT -8
Can't help but think that the 50th Anniversary P42s will be sold exclusively through Amtrak the first time around just like the 40th anniversary heritage units.
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