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Post by riogrande on May 13, 2020 7:07:42 GMT -8
If I recall correctly, the Atlas RBL's are a little low in height, which could explain why you had to shorten up the vents. It's kind of too bad that no company has yet offered a good accurate high quality Evans 50' box car. IIRC Details West did the 1st one, then Atlas, and now the cheapo ScaleTrains. If ScaleTrains could offer a rivet counter version, that would be nice.
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Post by fr8kar on May 13, 2020 8:31:31 GMT -8
If I recall correctly, the Atlas RBL's are a little low in height, which could explain why you had to shorten up the vents. The ladders on the Atlas car are mounted higher than the prototype, so that doesn't help either. I'll join in Jim's lament for a nicely done version of this car. I still have a couple of the Details West versions, but it's probably ebay time for them now that these two Atlas cars have taken their place.
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Post by slowfreight on May 14, 2020 6:37:00 GMT -8
If I recall correctly, the Atlas RBL's are a little low in height, which could explain why you had to shorten up the vents. The ladders on the Atlas car are mounted higher than the prototype, so that doesn't help either. I'll join in Jim's lament for a nicely done version of this car. I still have a couple of the Details West versions, but it's probably ebay time for them now that these two Atlas cars have taken their place. But there's no shortage of prototypes you can model from the DW car! The basic ends and roof are still pretty good. The biggest problem I've had with them is that the panel count doesn't always match my prototypes exactly, and the lower sill weld lines don't always match. Still, not every car on the layout needs to be a 100% model. I did discover that the red box version of the Atlas car doesn't have the brake rigging that later versions have, and with the narrow sill it's visible at eye level.
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Post by fr8kar on May 14, 2020 6:46:09 GMT -8
The ladders on the Atlas car are mounted higher than the prototype, so that doesn't help either. I'll join in Jim's lament for a nicely done version of this car. I still have a couple of the Details West versions, but it's probably ebay time for them now that these two Atlas cars have taken their place. But there's no shortage of prototypes you can model from the DW car! The basic ends and roof are still pretty good. The biggest problem I've had with them is that the panel count doesn't always match my prototypes exactly, and the lower sill weld lines don't always match. Still, not every car on the layout needs to be a 100% model. I did discover that the red box version of the Atlas car doesn't have the brake rigging that later versions have, and with the narrow sill it's visible at eye level. Regarding the Atlas red box car, you're right. The black box car has separate ladders, too. I had some of the red box cars, but I sold them off. Both versions have the door bars molded on, but they aren't that offensive to me. The reason I'm going to unload the Details West cars is they are in the same paint scheme and number series as the Atlas cars, so I don't see any reason to have two correct cars and two foobies.
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Post by platec on May 14, 2020 7:34:39 GMT -8
The ladders on the Atlas car are mounted higher than the prototype, so that doesn't help either. I'll join in Jim's lament for a nicely done version of this car. I still have a couple of the Details West versions, but it's probably ebay time for them now that these two Atlas cars have taken their place. But there's no shortage of prototypes you can model from the DW car! The basic ends and roof are still pretty good. The biggest problem I've had with them is that the panel count doesn't always match my prototypes exactly, and the lower sill weld lines don't always match. Still, not every car on the layout needs to be a 100% model. I did discover that the red box version of the Atlas car doesn't have the brake rigging that later versions have, and with the narrow sill it's visible at eye level. But the DW car in 2 feet too short, and has the wrong roof if you're modeling almost any Evans RBL.
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Post by riogrande on May 14, 2020 8:10:23 GMT -8
I've unloaded almost all of my DW cars. I still have a DW SP and a WP as stand-in's until hopefully a double plug door version is offered.
Athearn continues to churn out the DW based Evans double plug door boxcar about every 3 years but they have been a no-sale for me due to the old tooling and dimensional issues.
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Post by protofrtcar on May 14, 2020 9:50:29 GMT -8
If I recall correctly, the Atlas RBL's are a little low in height, which could explain why you had to shorten up the vents. The ladders on the Atlas car are mounted higher than the prototype, so that doesn't help either. I'll join in Jim's lament for a nicely done version of this car. I still have a couple of the Details West versions, but it's probably ebay time for them now that these two Atlas cars have taken their place.
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Post by slowfreight on May 14, 2020 11:04:39 GMT -8
But there's no shortage of prototypes you can model from the DW car! The basic ends and roof are still pretty good. The biggest problem I've had with them is that the panel count doesn't always match my prototypes exactly, and the lower sill weld lines don't always match. Still, not every car on the layout needs to be a 100% model. I did discover that the red box version of the Atlas car doesn't have the brake rigging that later versions have, and with the narrow sill it's visible at eye level. But the DW car in 2 feet too short, and has the wrong roof if you're modeling almost any Evans RBL. I should clarify that I've been mostly working with the DW plug door variant. Shame on me
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Post by protofrtcar on May 14, 2020 11:44:32 GMT -8
Both the DW and the Atlas Evans RBL cars are Foobies. The DW car is pretty much a non starter for anything (poorly rendered ends and incorrect dimensions ) The Atlas RBL, although a good looking stand in, also has incorrect dimensions, it is not tall enough and not long enough ! Scaletrains " Kit Classic" (cheapo) is an accurate model of the Evans RBL car, they designed it off actual blueprints/plans. Now wouldn't it be great if they offered it in the Rivet Counter line, with separate detail parts, ladders, door rods. etc. Scaletrains, or any other savvy manufacturer could tool this model with separate ends and roof ( ala INTERMOUNTAIN Style ) so as to be able to offer the version built with Pullman Standard end and roofs, NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE, as well as the Diagonal Panel roof and Dreadnaught end version, thus giving themselves dozens of First hand railroad owners, dozens of lessee schemes and many Second hand Railroad owners. An extensive three part article and plans (of the three variations built, the first few having single door rods on the double plug doors ) by James Kinkaid appeared in 1996 issues of Mainline modeler Magazine. A very popular car requested by a lot of modellers, MANUFACTURES TAKE NOTE. Stay Safe.
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Post by riogrande on May 14, 2020 12:34:43 GMT -8
Yes, it would be nice is ScaleTrains did a rivet counter version of the Evans RBL>
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Post by fr8kar on May 14, 2020 16:26:36 GMT -8
But the DW car in 2 feet too short, and has the wrong roof if you're modeling almost any Evans RBL. I should clarify that I've been mostly working with the DW plug door variant. Shame on me I had several of these when I was younger and had one left over after selling a bunch of stuff on ebay years ago. I used some parts from a P2K auto box kit and other random bits to model another car Ron Hawkins photographed.
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Post by platec on May 14, 2020 17:28:17 GMT -8
Nice looking looking car Ryan.
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Post by fr8kar on May 14, 2020 18:45:21 GMT -8
Thanks, Nate!
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Post by riogrande on May 15, 2020 8:28:40 GMT -8
That BN green is one of my favorite schemes. Nice boxcar!
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Post by myoungwisc on May 15, 2020 18:16:23 GMT -8
A couple late additions to the thread; Green Bay & Western #10056 (Ex-EACH) Exactrail factory painted model modified (decal patches) and weathered: Burlington Northern #451592 (former CB&Q) OMI model with modified coupler boxes, Athearn trucks dozens of Microscale and Kohlberg decal bits and other (minor) modifications:
Hope all of you are staying healthy and safe.
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Post by drolsen on May 18, 2020 13:15:22 GMT -8
Martin, I love the GBW boxcar - those EACH cars seemed to have ended up a lot of places secondhand. I bought one because I know it will eventually come in handy, but I'm not sure what patch it will get yet. I need to research what the options are in the late '90s. I like the BN covered hopper, too. Overland produced a lot of interesting hoppers that cover some prototypes that still aren't readily available.
Ryan, great BN boxcar there too. The ladders on the A-end of interesting. They seem fairly tall, which gives the car a unique short (in height) appearance.
Dave
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