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Post by stevewagner on Oct 2, 2020 5:22:32 GMT -8
Woodland Scenics has for years offered generic models that resemble cars of certain vintages without trying to follow specific full-sized cars, presumably to avoid having to pay licensing fees. I've found a few so attractive that I've bought them.
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Post by santafe49 on Oct 2, 2020 17:51:03 GMT -8
Would be fantastic if one of the vehicle provider's would do a "Propane Delivery Truck". I got a Shapeway's Tank and Bed and then had to cut down a Walthers Scene Master single axle "Roll Back" truck to fit. It looks OK, but i can't figure why it hasn't been done by any of the Manufacturer's. Seems like they would be a Hot seller.
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Post by schroed2 on Oct 3, 2020 18:29:53 GMT -8
Woodland scenics has recently released some cars and trucks but fail to identify the make, model and year of them. Does anyone know what they actually are and what year? maybe this link (which is in german, but the info should be clear...) helps www.mo87.de/forumv2/viewtopic.php?p=320915#p320915Bernd Adelsdorf, Germany |
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Post by keystonefarm on Oct 4, 2020 15:21:36 GMT -8
One problem with the vehicle manufacturers is what are currently available. Years back Atlas did a run of Ford and Dodge sedans great for bi/tri level loads . Now they are not available. Athearn did the B and R model Macks. Try and find one now and from what I have ben told there will be no more due to licensing issues with Volvo the current owner of Mack. A good bit of the list is no longer available. I'd love to see some mid 60's through mid 70's station wagons, 2 and 4 door sedans the norm not more specialty cars. --------- Ken
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Post by lvrr325 on Oct 5, 2020 5:17:29 GMT -8
Atlas had a 1968 Plymouth sedan and 1968 Ford sedan. For a while they were bringing stupid money on eBay, but I was able to buy one at a show for under $10.
CMW has a 1974 Buick wagon right now.
Woodland Scenic cars are mostly based on actual cars with a few details left out.
The ones I recognize include
39-40 Ford coupe
46-48 Ford convertible
48-50 Ford F1 panel
48-53 Chevy pickup
49-50 Ford coupe
49-50 Mercury coupe
50-52 Ford chassis panel van with a Boyertown or similar body
51-52 Chevy hardtop
55 Chevy Nomad
55-56 Chevy pickup (also tow truck, dump truck)
55-56 Ford hardtop
57-58 Plymouth hardtop
There's a mid-30s looking large truck I don't recognize right off also.
The modern era vehicles include what looks like a mid-70s Dodge pickup, a van that is a homologation of Dodge and Chevy that is proportionally much too wide, what could be about a 1983 Toyota and a 2000 or so Hyundai. Some of the older ones have proportion issues, too, the Plymouth front overhang and bumper are too big and look odd compared to a real one. Some of them look like they're a slightly larger than HO scale.
Williams Brothers offered a line of HO cars; clear plastic one piece body, separate frame, separate wheel/axles. While some of them duplicate other offerings, there's a few interesting offerings. These don't seem to command a huge price either.
32 Chevy convertible and roadster-pickup
35 Ford sedan
39 Ford tudor
40 Ford coupe
49 Mercury coupe
48-53 Chevy pickup and stake bed
53 Ford pickup and stake bed
56 Ford Crown Victoria
57 Ford hardtop
57 Ford Thunderbird
57 Chevy hardtop
64 Pontiac GTO
77 Dodge sedan
78 El Camino
88 Ford Taurus
92 Ford Explorer
96 Chevy S10 Blazer
Life-Like initially had two HO vehicles, one-piece cast body with separate window insert and snap-in wheel/axles. A 1978-79 Ford pickup (similar to the Atlas 1973 but with square headlights) and a 1980 Chevrolet Citation. These are pretty accurate although not highly detailed. They later discontinued these (millions were made, they aren't hard to find) and replaced them with a 56 Ford pickup and 1953 Chevy hardtop, which were largely made the same except with separate grille/bumper pieces. The proportions of the pickup are a little off and further vehicles they add after this point also seem to have problems this way; a Divco van, a school bus, an ice cream truck with AD Chevy nose. The pickup cab got a dump truck variant too. The wheels and axles carried over from the earlier cars, too, so you have a maybe 1/86 Chevy that has 1/87 13" wheels and tires on it.
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Post by timvanmersbergen on Oct 5, 2020 6:38:25 GMT -8
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Post by jako on Oct 5, 2020 9:44:28 GMT -8
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Post by keystonefarm on Oct 5, 2020 10:38:08 GMT -8
The Life Like 78-79 Ford Pickup was an oddball. It was the camper special model with a longer wheelbase than a normal F- 150 etc. ----- Ken
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Post by Frank on Oct 5, 2020 13:00:56 GMT -8
This is a great list, inspired me to track down some of the Motormax models to fill an early 70’s gap I had. I was nervous about the scaling at first but they seem to blend well with the Busch and Oxford Diecast models I already had. I wasn’t sure if the Busch models were too small or the Oxford ones were too big, but sometimes they do not fit well in the same scene.
To satisfy my curiosity I grabbed a handful of random cars from my stash to do a rough dimension check. Busch, Oxford, and CMW all came in near perfect for the ones I measured (TransAm, Monaco, Fury, Charger, Chevelle). Oxford’s versions stand out simply because of the superior detail (by lightyears) in the model. Turns out the Motormax ones ended up being notably undersized, but not by much at all. I wish the Busch models had more fine detail, still make excellent models away from the front of the layout of course.
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Post by lvrr325 on Oct 5, 2020 13:12:43 GMT -8
Some of the Motor Max Fresh Cherries cars would benefit from being taken apart and the wheels/tires replaced with smaller ones, particularly the little Honda and a couple of others. They're all made it looks like to use the same large tires and it makes them sit high.
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Post by riogrande on Oct 5, 2020 13:34:18 GMT -8
Speaking of smaller tires, I have some Trident vans that are too tall to fit in the bottom level of Genesis bi-level racks, I'm hoping maybe smaller wheels mounted a little higher would allow them to fit. Where can I find some replacement tires.
Another reason for replacement tires is most models seem to come with mag wheels, but those on auto racks would not have them. Rather stock wheels.
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Post by lvrr325 on Oct 6, 2020 0:26:20 GMT -8
For auto racks I'd just paint wheels black, at some point they realized they needed to ship them with the hubcaps in the trunk.
Busch or somebody used to sell packages of just replacement wheels and axles, but it seems like they were fairly expensive for what you got, and it was an assortment, not just all one size. I had one of their 77-78 Dodge sedans that was missing an axle.
It may be cheaper to round up older stuff and pirate wheels from them.
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Post by Christian on Oct 6, 2020 5:28:52 GMT -8
Speaking of smaller tires, I have some Trident vans that are too tall to fit in the bottom level of Genesis bi-level racks, I'm hoping maybe smaller wheels mounted a little higher would allow them to fit. Where can I find some replacement tires. Another reason for replacement tires is most models seem to come with mag wheels, but those on auto racks would not have them. Rather stock wheels. Herpa makes lots and lots of wheels and tires. Promotex is the source for all things Herpa, but seems this morning to be sold out of the dozen or so passenger car wheel and tire sets. Truck Stop Hobbies lists some Herpa passenger sets. As well as Busch, River Point Station and some others. I've not ordered from them. www.truckstophobbies1-87.com/ |
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Post by calzeph on Oct 6, 2020 8:36:01 GMT -8
Speaking of smaller tires, I have some Trident vans that are too tall to fit in the bottom level of Genesis bi-level racks, I'm hoping maybe smaller wheels mounted a little higher would allow them to fit. Where can I find some replacement tires. Another reason for replacement tires is most models seem to come with mag wheels, but those on auto racks would not have them. Rather stock wheels. Herpa makes lots and lots of wheels and tires. Promotex is the source for all things Herpa, but seems this morning to be sold out of the dozen or so passenger car wheel and tire sets. Truck Stop Hobbies lists some Herpa passenger sets. As well as Busch, River Point Station and some others. I've not ordered from them. www.truckstophobbies1-87.com/Truck Stop Hobbies is an excellent place to go for all things vehicles ( HO ) They offer great personalized service. |
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Post by riogrande on Oct 6, 2020 9:02:51 GMT -8
Cool. I'll investigate the wheels and check with truckstophobbies. Thanks.
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Post by cr9617 on Oct 6, 2020 15:22:55 GMT -8
Speaking of smaller tires, I have some Trident vans that are too tall to fit in the bottom level of Genesis bi-level racks, I'm hoping maybe smaller wheels mounted a little higher would allow them to fit. Where can I find some replacement tires. Another reason for replacement tires is most models seem to come with mag wheels, but those on auto racks would not have them. Rather stock wheels. You might want to look into the wheels that come on the Roco Dodge pickup or the military version Dodge M880. I use them on most of my trucks. It's generic enough that they can stand in for most steelies depending on how you paint them. They are also smaller than the stock Trident wheels. Here they are on a Trident Suburban: 
If you're looking for something smaller than the Roco wheels, there are the Busch Toyota Landcruiser wheels. They come with more aggressive tires though.  I've been buying just the wheels from a seller on Ebay "Ferdefer", usually sells them in sets of 8. A quick search only shows the Toyota wheels right now. www.ebay.com/itm/Busch-8-Small-Size-Rubber-Tires-w-Rims-for-SUV-Pick-Up-4-X-4-1-87-HO-Scale/193298673777?hash=item2d017fb071:g:5eMAAOSwoPpaWaPd Before I found him I was buying the trucks and taking off the wheels which as you imagine gets pretty expensive. |
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Post by riogrande on Oct 6, 2020 16:25:32 GMT -8
Thanks for the tip. The wheels used on the Trident Suburban might look best on the vans I have. To bad they aren't available.
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Post by lvrr325 on Oct 13, 2020 23:14:02 GMT -8
I brought in a CMW 1954 Ford bottle truck to sell and I'm glad I only got one.
The new bottle truck body isn't bad and it's on the big truck chassis, but the problem is even though it's an F350 (one ton) cab it's not big enough for this size truck; the fenders do not fit the wheels, so the cab sits way too high. If they used their 1955/57 Chevy or 1960 Ford cabs on it it might be okay, those are made to fit the large wheels this truck has.
If I had a spare Athearn Ford C-cab I might see if it would swap on there without too much trouble. It would duplicate one from the Ideal Motorific series of the 1960s and an actual prototype I recall from a late 70s David Carridine moonshiner B-movie.
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