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Post by csxt8400 on Jan 22, 2021 16:33:40 GMT -8
The other thread sped off in the opposite direction, so for the sake of eating up bandwidth I'd like to see what some people are thinking.
The newsletter claims that its never been produced in mass plastic. When they say never, does that mean even complete foobie versions?
The SDP40 would be a locomotive that might fit the collector side enough to warrant it. But it has indeed been done if we count the ancient Athearn version.
Beyond that, I can't shake the feeling of an SD45X. Another EMD standard hood unit that would fit the bill is the SDL39, but without the same EMD demonstrator and SP support.
My second tier guesses are the P30CH and the SW1001, although I don't see the SW being worthy of that length of production.
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Post by GP40P-2 on Jan 22, 2021 17:17:39 GMT -8
I would guess something more specialized for their "Museum Quality" line, such as the DD35/DD35B, or totally out of the blue, the C855 A and B. A cult following, but more limited.
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Post by cemr5396 on Jan 22, 2021 17:17:46 GMT -8
all of those sound like they would fit better in the Rivet Counter line.
I could be wrong but I think the only 'Museum Quality' model they have gone so far was the GTEL. Based on that, I think the new model will be something that is just as much of a showpiece as a working model, just like the GTEL was.
I could see it being the long-rumored steam locomotive they supposedly have coming.
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Post by railmodeltroy14 on Jan 22, 2021 17:36:23 GMT -8
AC4400CW rebuilds...never mass-produced in plastic
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Post by pboilermaker on Jan 22, 2021 19:08:01 GMT -8
Krauss-Maffei ML4000?
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Post by peoriaman on Jan 22, 2021 19:46:27 GMT -8
It is heresy to suggest anything else besides this:  |
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Post by csxt8400 on Jan 22, 2021 19:58:00 GMT -8
I would guess something more specialized for their "Museum Quality" line, such as the DD35/DD35B, or totally out of the blue, the C855 A and B. A cult following, but more limited. I Thought about the DD35 as well, but that has technically been done if we agree on old Athearn stuff. I also am betting against a gigantic engine that UP bought, as they have already done the GTEL. That's my blind reasoning, at least. |
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Post by sknorcal on Jan 22, 2021 20:00:10 GMT -8
How about the standard turbine? They released this not long ago in N-scale.
Given that their first Museum Quality model was the Big Blow, The standard turbine would seem to be a logical progression of the brand.
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Post by jbilbrey on Jan 22, 2021 20:19:06 GMT -8
ScaleTrains said that they have a steam locomotive in development over on FB but did not indicate if it was going be the "Museum Quality" announcement. So, my guesses are the following: Steam - NYC Mikados, early-Lima Berkshires, Southern/TVRM 4501, or CB&Q 4960. Diesels - the K-M ML4000 or GE U50C |
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Post by railmodeltroy14 on Jan 22, 2021 20:27:44 GMT -8
More guesses...
-Fully-assembled double track 120 foot skewed thru-girder bridge with metal walkways and cable handrails
-some type of caboose
-some type of motorized maintenance of way machinery
-some type of signal system
-CSX GP 30 converted Road Slug with GP 40-2 mother unit
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Post by GP40P-2 on Jan 22, 2021 21:27:14 GMT -8
ScaleTrains said that they have a steam locomotive in development over on FB but did not indicate if it was going be the "Museum Quality" announcement. So, my guesses are the following: Steam - NYC Mikados, early-Lima Berkshires, Southern/TVRM 4501, or CB&Q 4960. Diesels - the K-M ML4000 or GE U50C GE U50C is not that bad a guess; didn't the GTEL trucks end up under them? If so, Scale Trains has some of what they need. We also know that ST likes the NS. So something bizaro like the Jawn Henry, or something from the Southern? |
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Post by bdhicks on Jan 22, 2021 22:29:13 GMT -8
Steam: GN 2-6-8-0
Diesel: DH643
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Post by jbilbrey on Jan 23, 2021 0:15:56 GMT -8
GE U50C is not that bad a guess; didn't the GTEL trucks end up under them? If so, Scale Trains has some of what they need. We also know that ST likes the NS. So something bizaro like the Jawn Henry, or something from the Southern? I believe that the GTEL and U50C would share the same trucks, but don't quote me on that as I am straying far from my areas of knowledge when delving into Union Pacific Turbines and other large diesel-electrics. Given their location and fondness to the NS is why I thought of Southern/TVRM 4501. It is arguably one of the better known excursion locomotives in the Southeast. The Southern Railway didn't have many oddities. They experimented with one 2-8-2 with a powered tender (not a success) and had some 2-8-8-2's that were smaller and lighter than the USRA 2-8-8-2's. Since we're talking about oddities, the N&W oddity that really wasn't too odd for the railroad would be a 4-8-0 with several preserved and one still in operation. Bdhicks, I also kicked around the possibility of them releasing the GN 2-6-8-0. IIRC, some of them led remarkably long careers despite the odd wheel arrangement. The Southern Railway also had three, but they were different enough from the GN locomotives that I doubt it would be financially feasible to include them with the GN locomotives. There are a lot of steam locomotives out there that don't exist outside of brass. The trick is to find one that hasn't been modeled yet, that was used by one (or preferably more) large railroads, and would be popular enough generate strong sales. |
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Post by Christian on Jan 23, 2021 1:38:51 GMT -8
Done in plastic by AHM/IHC. Long time ago, but plastic. |
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Post by severn on Jan 23, 2021 7:29:22 GMT -8
I'm probably over thinking it but if the phrase is literally "never in mass produced plastic before."
That to me suggests die cast or brass or even maybe other small builders in other scales even.
Not sure where that leads. Although steam engines seem to have to be metal ...
I'd probably rather see something post steam era although I have no idea what it could be then... Except as suggested above.
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Post by fmilhaupt on Jan 23, 2021 8:19:14 GMT -8
Done in plastic by AHM/IHC. Long time ago, but plastic. Yeah, but that was the cab-unit version, where there was a total of six locomotives. I always thought they looked like stagecoaches with ship windows. There were fifteen SP hood units.
Granted, they were only in general service about half as long.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 9:44:44 GMT -8
Well, I can live without the "museum quality" marketing hype.
If a good enough model is built, I will buy it, period.
I have as of late had issues with some other manufacturer's products that had not the best motors and not the best QA/QC. So I am getting a bit jaded regarding the use of "museum quality" by any manufacturer in their advertising.
My most satisfying purchases lately have been an Ebay find nos Atlas Master Series Maine Central GP-38 and a Bowser C-630 from the very latest run with LED class lights (which also pulls like crazy).
I'm learning that sometimes having the latest greatest model isn't always as good as yesterday's model that has a great motor, is in the correct paint colors, and runs exceptionally well.
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Post by mdvle on Jan 23, 2021 15:38:20 GMT -8
Well, I can live without the "museum quality" marketing hype.
While it is partially marketing hype, it is also one of ScaleTrains product levels - they do Museum, Rivet Counter, Operator, and Kit Classics.
The Museum stuff is a step above Rivet Counter, it's up to the prospective buyer if they feel it is worth it or not.
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Post by bdhicks on Jan 23, 2021 20:33:31 GMT -8
I always thought people touting "museum quality" as top of the line were rather silly, considering how many Athearn blue box and Roundhouse kits I've seen in museums.
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Post by mdvle on Jan 30, 2021 7:54:29 GMT -8
Near the end of their Kit Classics presentation they indicated the Museum Quality would feature several lighting features, which they indicated would tend to lean towards a diesel announcement.
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Post by ucfknight on Jan 30, 2021 8:11:57 GMT -8
Near the end of their Kit Classics presentation they indicated the Museum Quality would feature several lighting features, which they indicated would tend to lean towards a diesel announcement. "ground lights on both sides of the locomotive" "3 walkway lights" He then said he didn't want to get into class lights and ditch lights to avoid giving too much away. |
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Post by tomoc on Jan 30, 2021 11:49:57 GMT -8
My thoughts are something UP that ran with the turbines. Personally I have nothing against steam but I prefer diesels. Either way I am not buying anymore ST locomotives until the 4 axle stuff comes along. So I doubt this announcement will excite me
TomO
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 30, 2021 11:55:53 GMT -8
Hoping for a nice steam locomotive, but I'd guess it's going to be another big UP unit like a U50C or a DD35. Cool, but none for me, thanks. (I hope I'm wrong!)
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Post by mdvle on Jan 30, 2021 13:09:20 GMT -8
It's a SDL39
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Post by ssw on Jan 30, 2021 13:11:19 GMT -8
SDL39! I'm gonna go broke.
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Post by railmodeltroy14 on Jan 30, 2021 13:14:19 GMT -8
Somebody will be happy...good for them
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Post by mdvle on Jan 30, 2021 13:17:52 GMT -8
The units for Chile look interesting with their covered windows
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Post by csxt8400 on Jan 30, 2021 13:21:27 GMT -8
Holy sh******
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Post by mdvle on Jan 30, 2021 13:21:56 GMT -8
They are already working on the 3rd Museum Quality loco
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Post by markfj on Jan 30, 2021 13:24:30 GMT -8
Interesting choice, I hope they sell well.
Wonder if they fixed the slightly oval appearance of the class lights that we saw on the SD45. It’s really hard to tell from the photos up on their site.
Thanks Scale Trains!
Mark J.
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