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Post by unittrain on May 12, 2021 13:35:02 GMT -8
Just picked up my second Riverossi U25C I have a Pennsylvania Railroad one I got a couple years ago but just picked up a PC unit #6510 but it's missing the large PC logo on the long hood 🤔 pictures of the prototype unit show the unit with all the logos? Had anyone bought this unit? If so did you just buy the decals if so which set is best. Thanks
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Post by drsvelte on May 12, 2021 13:54:18 GMT -8
You might check the PC Historical Society for the heralds. I have not used their decals, but I have heard they are accurate. www.pcrrhs.org/store/decals |
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Post by unittrain on May 12, 2021 14:49:31 GMT -8
Thanks I purchased several sheets got some also for my undec bowser 100 ton hoppers as they had the large PC sheet for the H43s.
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Post by el3672 on May 12, 2021 15:16:06 GMT -8
Just picked up my second Riverossi U25C I have a Pennsylvania Railroad one I got a couple years ago but just picked up a PC unit #6510 but it's missing the large PC logo on the long hood 🤔 pictures of the prototype unit show the unit with all the logos? Had anyone bought this unit? If so did you just buy the decals if so which set is best. Thanks These are some of the PCHS decals for the PC Diesels: -PCH-3: PC Loco Heralds (left -PCH-4: PC Red/White Diesel Logo's (Right Top) -PCH-5: PC "Faded" R/W Diesel logo's (Right Middle) -PCH-7: PC 16" Loco Numbers (Right Bottom)
As per drsvelte's provided link:
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Post by JohnJ on May 12, 2021 16:56:08 GMT -8
Most online pics of 6510 shown it with the worms, but I found one without it on at least one side: images.app.goo.gl/nRC8Jg9k8tsWnLo87It’s also interesting that Rivarossi’s model of 6519 has worms, so there must have been some method to the madness. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 12, 2021 17:19:51 GMT -8
I get the impression that some of the PC U boats didn't get the worm at the beginning. The date for the wormless 6510 is 1971. Dates of it be-wormed are all after that.
The same holds, I think, for 6519.
So folks yearning for an early PC U boat might go wormless, while those wishing the later version might choose wormy.
Ed
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on May 12, 2021 19:00:33 GMT -8
Did they get worms due to poor maintenance?
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Post by lvrr325 on May 12, 2021 19:22:36 GMT -8
Not enough trips to the vet
I looked at that and a couple didn't get them for a long time, I figured if I got that one it could stand-in for one of those.
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Post by elsdp45 on May 14, 2021 9:20:31 GMT -8
I bought all three of the Rivarossi PC U25C’s. One was made intentionally without worms. The other two had them. Athearn and Bowser have also made PC locomotives without the full lettering package.
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Post by keystonefarm on May 14, 2021 19:22:23 GMT -8
I wish Hornby or whoever owns the U25C dies now would offer another run. Thet are some of the best running locos I have.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 21:49:11 GMT -8
Just asking: how do the handrails look to you? I know they made them metal to last...
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Post by Colin 't Hart on May 15, 2021 7:05:10 GMT -8
Just asking: how do the handrails look to you? I know they made them metal to last... I was quite critical of the handrails when I first saw sample photos posted during their development. Now owning several, they do look OK to me. |
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Post by keystonefarm on May 15, 2021 9:45:45 GMT -8
I have both the Rivarossi and Korean Brass units. The Korean Brass handrails are better looking but the Rivarossi handrails also look fine to me. I would get either brand but both are currently non existent . -----Ken
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Post by edwardsutorik on May 15, 2021 10:36:11 GMT -8
Here's a nice shot of a PRR U25C:  And here's a discussion from this forum on the Korea Brass and Rivarossi U-25C: atlasrescueforum.proboards.com/thread/4446/kbm-rivarossi-u25cNot PC related, but Rivarossi got the colors wrong on their Q and NP U25C's. And they corrected them on their U28C versions of same. But got the green wrong (in my eye) on their BN version. Ed |
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Post by The Ferro Kid on May 15, 2021 10:43:26 GMT -8
A number of Korea Brass roadnames are listed on eBay right now (search Korea U25C). I didn't look at all of them, but one says "Free shipping from Korea" so might be Korea Brass itself.
Korea Brass projected doing the Oro Dam Constructors units in its second run, but probably hasn't sold enough of the first run to get that far yet. I'd really like not to have to paint those myself. To date, I've only bought various roadnames in Hornby Rivarossi, including extras for the Oro project if necessarry. Very happy with the Rivarossi units.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 15:02:24 GMT -8
I see the Rivarossi units from time to time, still new in box. I just never could quite pull the trigger...more of an EMD SD40-2 fan, now...used to be an Alcophile...I don't see the PC ones, but tend to see the Q red ones...There are stores near me in PA that may have a couple units left.
Given the positive comments, maybe I'd pick one up the next time I see one.
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Post by craigz on May 17, 2021 6:49:03 GMT -8
Most online pics of 6510 shown it with the worms, but I found one without it on at least one side: images.app.goo.gl/nRC8Jg9k8tsWnLo87It’s also interesting that Rivarossi’s model of 6519 has worms, so there must have been some method to the madness. There was indeed method. We at the PCRRHS worked with Rivarossi on these models to get the lettering and numbering styles right. We (Riv and us) chose to do early-PC models including one without the worms which is indeed the 6510. You'll also notice that the models don't have the maintenance base stencil/sticker on the cabs...again, early PC style. It's easier to add those to a model (via Microscale decals) than it is to remove them. As for the handrails, they never bothered me. They're arrow straight and they stay that way; I personally find wavy handrails much more distracting. I also have one of the Korea Brass units that I found for a significant discount. I removed the TCS decoder and fitted a Loksound. It's also a nice runner and looks good but I don't think they're worth the premium they seem to command over the Rivarossi. |
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Post by PennCentral on May 17, 2021 12:25:08 GMT -8
[quote author=" craigz "[/quote]There was indeed method. We at the PCRRHS worked with Rivarossi on these models to get the lettering and numbering styles right. [/quote] Craig, Do you have any insight on what happened to the tooling for the Riv U25C after bailed on their brief re-entry into US prototypes? Have or will they sell the tooling to another company or is it just going to languish in a warehouse? Jason C PC guy in Indiana |
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Post by carrman on May 17, 2021 18:10:17 GMT -8
Most online pics of 6510 shown it with the worms, but I found one without it on at least one side: images.app.goo.gl/nRC8Jg9k8tsWnLo87It’s also interesting that Rivarossi’s model of 6519 has worms, so there must have been some method to the madness. There was indeed method. We at the PCRRHS worked with Rivarossi on these models to get the lettering and numbering styles right. We (Riv and us) chose to do early-PC models including one without the worms which is indeed the 6510. You'll also notice that the models don't have the maintenance base stencil/sticker on the cabs...again, early PC style. It's easier to add those to a model (via Microscale decals) than it is to remove them. As for the handrails, they never bothered me. They're arrow straight and they stay that way; I personally find wavy handrails much more distracting. I also have one of the Korea Brass units that I found for a significant discount. I removed the TCS decoder and fitted a Loksound. It's also a nice runner and looks good but I don't think they're worth the premium they seem to command over the Rivarossi. KBM hosed the radiators by making the fans visible from the top when they are not. |
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Post by unittrain on May 18, 2021 16:30:37 GMT -8
Thanks for the insight I'll keep the large worms off since I model early PC.
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