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Post by jonklein611 on Jun 22, 2021 9:26:51 GMT -8
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Post by stevewagner on Jun 22, 2021 14:27:44 GMT -8
Jon, thanks very much for posting this on this forum -- very good for those of us who aren't active on Facebook. The detail visible inside the cab looks extraordinary!
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Post by es80ac on Jun 22, 2021 20:47:34 GMT -8
Wish they would do an RSD4/5 or RSD12
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Post by talltim on Jun 23, 2021 0:49:45 GMT -8
Curious as to why the treadplate on the walkway is etched? Could it not be moulded into the frame section?
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Post by dstark on Jun 23, 2021 5:39:57 GMT -8
Curious as to why the treadplate on the walkway is etched? Could it not be moulded into the frame section? I can think of a few reasons - Hard to get that resolution of detail in cast metal, it hides the joint between the metal frame/walkway and the plastic end step/pilot pieces, it effectively provides the thin angled deck overhang over the inside corners of the step wells, and it more easily accommodates variations in tread patterns. Same construction as the Rapido RS11 and RSi8, undec RS11 photo linked. Doug Stark rapidotrains.com/sites/default/files/2018/06/ho-rs11-model-800px-01.jpg
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Post by jonklein611 on Jun 23, 2021 5:43:18 GMT -8
Curious as to why the treadplate on the walkway is etched? Could it not be moulded into the frame section? I can think of a few reasons - Hard to get that resolution of detail in cast metal, it hides the joint between the metal frame/walkway and the plastic end step/pilot pieces, it effectively provides the thin angled deck overhang over the inside corners of the step wells, and it more easily accommodates variations in tread patterns. Same construction as the Rapido RS11 and RSi8, undec RS11 photo linked. Doug Stark rapidotrains.com/sites/default/files/2018/06/ho-rs11-model-800px-01.jpgHotlinked the photo to make it easier to see.
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Post by dstark on Jun 23, 2021 6:53:05 GMT -8
Hotlinked the photo to make it easier to see. Failing to see any value-add repeating my post with a linked photo and appending the above. Edit: I see in some browsers Jon's post load's the photo, in my case Chrome just shows the same link. I suspect TallTim's comment arises from the etched walkway lifting at the long hood left side behind the cab. Not a good look at all, hopefully that doesn't make it past QC on production models.
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Post by riogrande on Jun 23, 2021 7:09:18 GMT -8
It's nice to see the picture without going to a link. I see the value.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 8:06:10 GMT -8
My concern is that the deck piece or "frame" with treadplate attached is not straight but clearly has too much camber such that the pilots are pointing down, though the rear end is definitely worse than the front.
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Post by slowfreight on Jun 23, 2021 8:31:03 GMT -8
Looks like the pilots are interim 3D-printed parts?
I can't imagine how many fit/finish issues like that a manufacturer has to fight through before the production version is accepted.
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Post by dstark on Jun 23, 2021 10:41:31 GMT -8
It's nice to see the picture without going to a link. I see the value. That's fair, my Windows PC running Chrome browser simply shows the same link in both my post and Jon Klein's - no autoloaded photo. That may be a work IT-managed setting. Checked on my iPhone and Jon Klein's post loaded the photo.
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Post by jonklein611 on Jun 23, 2021 12:08:27 GMT -8
It's nice to see the picture without going to a link. I see the value. That's fair, my Windows PC running Chrome browser simply shows the same link in both my post and Jon Klein's - no autoloaded photo. That may be a work IT-managed setting. Checked on my iPhone and Jon Klein's post loaded the photo. Yes, some workplace firewalls / IT management will block hotlinking of photos from various sources. Some block facebook, others block imgur, etc. That's why I always include text, so it doesn't appear as an empty post.
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Post by talltim on Jun 24, 2021 1:48:57 GMT -8
Curious as to why the treadplate on the walkway is etched? Could it not be moulded into the frame section? I can think of a few reasons - Hard to get that resolution of detail in cast metal, it hides the joint between the metal frame/walkway and the plastic end step/pilot pieces, it effectively provides the thin angled deck overhang over the inside corners of the step wells, and it more easily accommodates variations in tread patterns. Same construction as the Rapido RS11 and RSi8, undec RS11 photo linked. Doug Stark rapidotrains.com/sites/default/files/2018/06/ho-rs11-model-800px-01.jpgNow you say it, its obvious! I'm glad I asked. Thanks
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Post by Colin 't Hart on Jun 24, 2021 6:00:08 GMT -8
I can think of a few reasons - Hard to get that resolution of detail in cast metal, it hides the joint between the metal frame/walkway and the plastic end step/pilot pieces, it effectively provides the thin angled deck overhang over the inside corners of the step wells, and it more easily accommodates variations in tread patterns. Same construction as the Rapido RS11 and RSi8, undec RS11 photo linked. Doug Stark rapidotrains.com/sites/default/files/2018/06/ho-rs11-model-800px-01.jpgHotlinked the photo to make it easier to see. If you're going to hotlink the photo, don't link to the redirect but to the actual file. That's why many people aren't seeing it.
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Post by 12bridge on Jun 24, 2021 7:40:31 GMT -8
I stand by my previous comments about these. No reason a locomotive tooled in this day, should not have a semi-scale draft gear and pilot plate. The same goes for treadplate. But, its got light up gauges, so, that's more important. Anyone notice that that roof sheet is like...4" thick? Across the board - I still don't know how we have yet to come up with a viable solution to get away from the leaning handrails. If there is one thing I wish to see the various manufacture's get right, this is it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 19:00:26 GMT -8
Agreed about the handrails. The ones in the photo look like the typical first production run RS-11 handrails actually look, of which I briefly owned 10 units. About half of them looked like the model in the photo above which is unacceptable to me. They need to be better than this. The other 5 units were better.
However, the B36-7 handrails are generally much better, at least on my two Conrail units.
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