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Post by fishbelly on Aug 21, 2021 10:37:58 GMT -8
I am not able to come up with any photo evidence. So what are the chances a NYC GP made it to the PC merger with lightening stripe paint scheme?
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Aug 21, 2021 13:48:07 GMT -8
Slim, it seems that NYC was quite prolific in going to ceegar-band when they did, but, one never says never cuz there's someone that knows different just hovering out of frame and ready to pounce...
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Post by fishbelly on Aug 21, 2021 14:19:31 GMT -8
I have been doing a bit of searching and though I have not come up with ANY straight NYC units, I have come up very close with Peoria & Eastern. A 1963 photo of a number of P&E GP7's still in Lightning stripe and a 1965 photo still in LS. I am not going to fall on the sword for it, but so far it does seem to appear that the P&E GP7's made it to PC in full LS paint. 1965 is closer to 1968 than it is to when NYC started their cigar band repaints in the late 1950's.
I'll keep searching though. My railroad interchanges with the P&E. This gives me an opportunity to build a couple or even have a pool power P&E GP7 in my lash up.
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Aug 22, 2021 5:16:58 GMT -8
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Post by fishbelly on Aug 22, 2021 5:39:02 GMT -8
Thanks, that is some very good information. |
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Post by orangec on Oct 4, 2021 11:24:39 GMT -8
This is a subject I have great interest in as I model late NYC/early PC. Below is GP 7471 in lightning stripes 8/16/1967. It is conceivable that it made it into 1968 in stripes. I kind of doubt it as the pic was at Collinwood, where it was most likely given a ten year overhaul and repaint. www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc7471ags.jpg |
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Post by fishbelly on Oct 4, 2021 12:16:55 GMT -8
This is a subject I have great interest in as I model late NYC/early PC. Below is GP 7471 in lightning stripes 8/16/1967. It is conceivable that it made it into 1968 in stripes. I kind of doubt it as the pic was at Collinwood, where it was most likely given a ten year overhaul and repaint. www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc7471ags.jpgThat is a great find. But I have to think at that date while the PC merger was about to happen in 6 months that they possibly would not even bother repainting it. Just a thought and also until someone can prove this wrong. It went to PC in lightening stripes. Just saying. |
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Post by orangec on Oct 4, 2021 12:22:54 GMT -8
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Post by fishbelly on Oct 4, 2021 13:01:02 GMT -8
My suggestion if you want to model very early PC with a lightening stripe NYC GP. Exhaust all your efforts to prove yourself wrong and then enjoy it.
If it were me. It is what I would do and then not finding any proof otherwise, I would definitely be modeling the NYC lightening stripes on that unit and run it in my era of 1968 to 1970.
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Post by orangec on Oct 4, 2021 14:39:51 GMT -8
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Post by fishbelly on Oct 4, 2021 15:26:15 GMT -8
Nice find!
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Post by orangec on Oct 5, 2021 8:40:17 GMT -8
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Post by cpr4200 on Mar 24, 2023 6:02:06 GMT -8
Wow, lightning stripes in 1967! I remember seeing a four-unit set of P&E Geeps all in stripes on the West Shore in Weehawken, NJ 1966-ish.
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Post by Baikal on Mar 24, 2023 8:11:26 GMT -8
This is a subject I have great interest in as I model late NYC/early PC. Below is GP 7471 in lightning stripes 8/16/1967. It is conceivable that it made it into 1968 in stripes. I kind of doubt it as the pic was at Collinwood, where it was most likely given a ten year overhaul and repaint. www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc7471ags.jpgThat is a great find. But I have to think at that date while the PC merger was about to happen in 6 months that they possibly would not even bother repainting it. Just a thought and also until someone can prove this wrong. It went to PC in lightening stripes. Just saying.
I agree it probably wore lightening stripes past the merger date.
SP ran a dwindling number of locos in Black Widow, Tiger Stripe, and Halloween paint schemes into the early 70s. Mostly switchers (TS & Halloween), Fs that were to be retired, and some GP9s. The first gray & scarlet unit was July 1958.
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Mar 25, 2023 3:50:13 GMT -8
On my railroad anything can happen....
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Post by wagnersteve on Jul 2, 2023 3:01:53 GMT -8
July 2, 2023, about 6:52 a.m., EDT
If my memory is correct, I saw a Peoria & Eastern first generation Geep in a lightning stripe livery powering a local freight at Oberlin, Ohio while I was an undergraduate at the college there between the Fall of 1964 and the Fall of 1968. By that time most NYC power I saw in several states was wearing the, to me, much less attractive nearly all black paint scheme with the cigar band herald. Oberlin was on what had been the original main line of the Lake Shore & Michigan Southern, which was downgraded after a shorter main line closer to Lake Erie was built through Sandusky. The local, always very short and trailed by a decrepit wooden caboose with a very low cupola, went no farther than Norwalk, Ohio. The track through Oberlin has been abandoned for a long time now.
Does any participant remember which day of the week on Disney's Mickey Mouse Club on network TV was "Anything Can Happen" Day? Another was "Fun with Music" day. Those were among my favorites and their subjects still are.
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Post by bnsf971 on Jul 3, 2023 3:45:05 GMT -8
July 2, 2023, about 6:52 a.m., EDT Does any participant remember which day of the week on Disney's Mickey Mouse Club on network TV was "Anything Can Happen" Day? Another was "Fun with Music" day. Those were among my favorites and their subjects still are. I think it was Wednesdays. |
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