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Post by riogrande on Sept 9, 2021 2:55:30 GMT -8
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Post by packer on Sept 9, 2021 3:13:51 GMT -8
Ow, my wallet. At least I got a year or soo before they drop.
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Post by lackawanna1223 on Sept 9, 2021 3:47:54 GMT -8
I’m down for a ‘57 SP&S. Two lumber yards on the planned layout so I’ve got a need for PacNW cars like these.
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Post by lvrr325 on Sept 9, 2021 4:48:54 GMT -8
Pretty sure I need at least a couple of these.
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Post by NYSW3614 on Sept 9, 2021 7:31:09 GMT -8
For a few years I've been admiring Moloco products but they've been too new for me so considered myself "safe" for better or worse. That ended today. I had heard he was considering earlier dates- NICE. I'm in for one GN as built and look forward to future releases.
THANK YOU MOLOCO!
Joshua
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Post by champagnetrail on Sept 9, 2021 7:48:06 GMT -8
Looks like another good one for eastern modelers intent on capturing the lumber trade. The EL wheel reports have plenty of examples of GN and SP&S cars, mainly hauling lumber, but a few other commodities as well.
-pat
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Post by riogrande on Sept 9, 2021 9:30:35 GMT -8
Looks like another good one for eastern modelers intent on capturing the lumber trade. The EL wheel reports have plenty of examples of GN and SP&S cars, mainly hauling lumber, but a few other commodities as well. -pat Any indication on how late the SP&S were running? |
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Post by cp6027 on Sept 9, 2021 9:38:31 GMT -8
Took me a second to realize these were not the same BN cars announced back in January (NP Brainerd-built with centered double doors)!
Not shown above is an undecorated kit for a combination plug/sliding version that may hint at some future run possibilities.
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Post by talltim on Sept 9, 2021 9:49:27 GMT -8
As a matter of interest, do the different floor types show on the outside of the car?
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Post by riogrande on Sept 9, 2021 9:55:28 GMT -8
Not shown above is an undecorated kit for a combination plug/sliding version that may hint at some future run possibilities. Here you go:  |
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Post by lackawanna1223 on Sept 9, 2021 10:22:39 GMT -8
Looks like another good one for eastern modelers intent on capturing the lumber trade. The EL wheel reports have plenty of examples of GN and SP&S cars, mainly hauling lumber, but a few other commodities as well. -pat Any indication on how late the SP&S were running? I believe I saw SP&S ones on Fallen Flags up to ‘78 (by that point BN). |
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Post by fcixdarrell on Sept 9, 2021 10:25:27 GMT -8
Any indication on how late the SP&S were running? I believe I saw SP&S ones on Fallen Flags up to ‘78 (by that point BN). They lasted until at least the 1/84 ORER (9 cars). There were still 28 in the 1/83 and 39 in the 1/82 ORERs. |
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Post by riogrande on Sept 9, 2021 10:26:45 GMT -8
Thanks for the info on the SP&S
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Post by markfj on Sept 9, 2021 10:41:02 GMT -8
Looks like another good one for eastern modelers intent on capturing the lumber trade. The EL wheel reports have plenty of examples of GN and SP&S cars, mainly hauling lumber, but a few other commodities as well. -pat No BN cars on the reports? Mark |
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Post by champagnetrail on Sept 9, 2021 16:20:19 GMT -8
Looks like another good one for eastern modelers intent on capturing the lumber trade. The EL wheel reports have plenty of examples of GN and SP&S cars, mainly hauling lumber, but a few other commodities as well. -pat No BN cars on the reports? Mark Mark...
Sorry.
Yes, there are some BN cars in the reports. None in the 201xxx group, but four in the 245xxx group. Of those four, three were empties westbound, and the lone eastbound was hauling stone/glass to Seiberling Tire & Rubber in Barberton, OH.
What is interesting is that I've got more SP&S cars (7) than GN cars (5) of this type, which surprised me.
-pat
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Post by kangaroose on Sept 9, 2021 16:21:28 GMT -8
Mark, There a 13 cars on the wheel reports, in the 245000 series, specifically, 245519 is an exact match, but others on either side are possibilities with this CRP 1973 date. Nick Looks like another good one for eastern modelers intent on capturing the lumber trade. The EL wheel reports have plenty of examples of GN and SP&S cars, mainly hauling lumber, but a few other commodities as well. -pat No BN cars on the reports? Mark |
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Post by kangaroose on Sept 9, 2021 16:23:58 GMT -8
Yes, Pat. And the SP&S typically retained their delivery schemes well into the 80s. I count 13 cars in the 245000 series. Nick No BN cars on the reports? Mark Mark... Sorry.
Yes, there are some BN cars in the reports. None in the 201xxx group, but four in the 245xxx group. Of those four, three were empties westbound, and the lone eastbound was hauling stone/glass to Seiberling Tire & Rubber in Barberton, OH.
What is interesting is that I've got more SP&S cars (7) than GN cars (5) of this type, which surprised me. -pat
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Post by lyonwonder on Sept 9, 2021 16:26:51 GMT -8
The drawing of the boxcar in the 1970 BN repaint still shows the runningboard present (even though the pre-BN GN Big Sky Blue has it removed), while it's removed in the drawing of the 1973 repaint.
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Post by kangaroose on Sept 9, 2021 16:28:05 GMT -8
Jim, I'll be posting proto images soon. All of these schemes lasted until the 1980s. The only one that I'm not about is the Gavin yard one. Nick Thanks for the info on the SP&S |
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Post by kangaroose on Sept 9, 2021 16:31:02 GMT -8
Not physically, unless you look underneath. But you do see it in the difference in the CU FT stencil. 4953 versus 4955. Nick As a matter of interest, do the different floor types show on the outside of the car? |
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Post by kangaroose on Sept 9, 2021 16:35:35 GMT -8
Correct, the 1970 repaints were just that, so roofwalks remained on in 1970, just repainted no rebuilding or re-furbishing. BN was still pretty young at that point. The first Capital Rebuild Program for these cars started in 1973. Nick The drawing of the boxcar in the 1970 BN repaint still shows the runningboard present, while it's removed in the drawing of the 1973 repaint. |
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Post by kangaroose on Sept 9, 2021 16:37:14 GMT -8
Joshua, did you not see out NP Brainerd boxcar announcement earlier in the year or was it late last year? Also a mid -50s car. Nick For a few years I've been admiring Moloco products but they've been too new for me so considered myself "safe" for better or worse. That ended today. I had heard he was considering earlier dates- NICE. I'm in for one GN as built and look forward to future releases. THANK YOU MOLOCO! Joshua |
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Post by champagnetrail on Sept 9, 2021 16:56:50 GMT -8
Yes, Pat. And the SP&S typically retained their delivery schemes well into the 80s. I count 13 cars in the 245000 series. Nick Mark... Sorry.
Yes, there are some BN cars in the reports. None in the 201xxx group, but four in the 245xxx group. Of those four, three were empties westbound, and the lone eastbound was hauling stone/glass to Seiberling Tire & Rubber in Barberton, OH.
What is interesting is that I've got more SP&S cars (7) than GN cars (5) of this type, which surprised me. -pat
Aha!
You actually know what you are talking about. I just look up number series in the ORER. I see other cars with similar dimensions in the Register, but have no idea if they are identical cars or not, so in my ignorance I tend to err on the side of caution. Thanks for the information!
-pat
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Post by el3672 on Sept 10, 2021 0:07:55 GMT -8
Thanks Nick for this latest announcement!! I've got my order in for:
(1) BN CRP 1973, (1) Repainted Big Sky Blue,(2) Delivery SP&S scheme 1957.
BTW while I've got your attention now, I'm gonna throw in a Big request!!
Bait in the water for any of the single door/ Dbl plug door
ACF, Greenville or PS 60' Auto Parts car's?
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Post by unittrain on Sept 10, 2021 2:43:10 GMT -8
Another great announcement I'm in for an SP&S, BN and a couple GN.
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Post by cera2254 on Sept 10, 2021 2:45:40 GMT -8
BTW while I've got your attention now, I'm gonna throw in a Big request!! Bait in the water for any of the single door/ Dbl plug door ACF, Greenville or PS 60' Auto Parts car's? +++++++++++++1 |
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Post by lvrr325 on Sept 10, 2021 11:17:37 GMT -8
I preordered two of them, expecting they'll be $55-$60-ish when they show up. Decided to go with ones with the roofwalk removed, although an as-built red is tempting.
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Post by drolsen on Sept 10, 2021 12:31:22 GMT -8
This may be kind of silly, but I think I may have to order one of the red Great Northern cars because it reminds me of a similar Atlas N scale offset door car that I had in that scheme when I was a kid. It was one of the first freight cars I remember having (I started off in N scale). Seeing the announcement immediately reminded me of that old model.
Dave
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 10, 2021 12:53:20 GMT -8
This may be kind of silly,... Nope. Ain't. I got me a nice Ulrich triple hopper in B&O, waiting to build someday. I bought my first one when I started high school, and always liked it. THIS time, I'm not going to brush paint it to make it better. Ed |
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Post by kangaroose on Sept 14, 2021 13:02:38 GMT -8
I'm focussed totally on 50-footers, sorry. That is my expertise and I have already announced a whole heap of ACF cars, so I better back to them now. Nick Thanks Nick for this latest announcement!! I've got my order in for: (1) BN CRP 1973, (1) Repainted Big Sky Blue,(2) Delivery SP&S scheme 1957. BTW while I've got your attention now, I'm gonna throw in a Big request!! Bait in the water for any of the single door/ Dbl plug door ACF, Greenville or PS 60' Auto Parts car's? |
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