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Post by stevewagner on Sept 24, 2021 1:38:15 GMT -8
Friday, Sept. 24, 4:33 a.m., EDT
The full PDF pages are up, the thumbnails aren't.
I'll just summarize and hope someone will post a link soon; I don't see a URL for it.
Genesis series:
GP7's: Bangor & Arrostook 63 & 66 dark blue with yellow lettering & handrails, gray pilots, steps, trucks & air tanks; 1776 red, white & blue BicentennialJeremiah O'Brien
Frisco 537. 544 & 611 tangerine & orange, each one w/ different details
Great Northern 608, 611 & 615 in mid-1960's simplified Pullman Green & Omaha Orange without yellow striping, horns on first 2 on winterization hatch, on cab of third
Midland Valley 154 and Kansas Oklahoma & Gulf 805, black with bright red band edged with white; all three Muskogee Roads full names in black on white rectangle on cab sides
Pennsylvania 8583, 8584, 8587 with steam generators, color of renderings looks black, not DGLE, ordered 1953, no heralds
GP38-2's: CSX ex-Conrail 2721, 2726, 2759, dark blue, yellow lettering, hood ends & sill stripes, white cab roof, details vary
Florida East Coast 505 & 509 mid-1990's with "Hurricane" herald, 501 & 509 as rebuilt ca. 2015 w/ road name instead & AC units on cab roofs and nose lights removed
Grand Trunk western 5853, 5861, 5966, ex-Rock Island repainted blue and re d w/ black underparts, 5856 Operation Lifesaver, smaller GT squiggle & different horn location
Helm Lessing, 3812 & 2814 ex Texas Mexican units in maroon, dark blue & black with white. HLCX on long hood & sill stripe, details vary
L&N 4056 & 4060 as delivered in 1970's dry with yellow graphics with black outlines on big initials and cab side #'s, 4057 as in early 1980s without footboards, simpler graphics
MKT 313, 318, 230 in variations of John Deere colors
single-bay 2600 cu.ft. Airslide covered hoppers supposedly 3 body styles, renderings seem to show just 2, all with black truck sideframeds
older style:
GACX gray with black roof, underbody and minimal lettering & triangular herald as built 1955. two singles and a two-pack
Santa Fe, gray with black graphics and trucks, two as delivered 1955, plus Primed for Grime 2-pack ca. 1980s with one having big road name
Rock Island, gray with black road name in sans serif lettering ca. 1964
Seaboard Coast Line, boxcar red with smallish italic road name ca. 1971
newer style:
Frisco, gray with black huge FRISCO and all other lettering ca. 1968
Southern Pacific, ditto with large road name
Ready To Roll series
40' low-cube containers in 2 3-packs each, no dates shown: Beacon, Hanjin, K-LIne, Nedlloyd, Ovefrseas Containers Limited, Yang Min (one pack "old", one "new"
Trinity 57' 3-unit spine car: 4 each for TTX (yellow w/ black) 2000's and Primed for Grime faded 2010's, BNSF 2010's
Roundhouse series:
FMC-built 50' 5283 cu. ft. boxcars with double sliding doors"
BN green, small herald, no road name, late 1990s's
BNSF dark red with wedge logo
Canadian National, CNA, dark red "plain Jane", 2000's
Minneapolis, Northfield & Southern, dark blue with huge red initials, red & white herald, 1970's
Southern Pacific, boxcar red with white sans serif name, 1970's
", but with name in speed lettering and Hydra-Cushion in yellow, 1990's
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Post by stevewagner on Sept 24, 2021 2:43:45 GMT -8
6:26 a.m., EDT
Athearn got the PDF pages of their latest new product announcements up nice and early this morning. Probably eagerness to do so caused two mistakes in spelling Pennsylvania in the one for the Genesis series GP7s.
The firm is certainly correct that at least some of the Bangor & Aroostook GP7's and GP9's did a lot of work for other railroads. I remember seeing dark blue BAR units in Framingham, Massachusetts where a former New Haven line from the Shore Line that branched to connect with the B&M in two places crossed the ex-NYC, ex-B&A main line from Boston to Albany and Selkirk yard. Note that there's a separate listing of photos of Bicentennial diesels in the "B" section of the great rr-fallenflags.org website; the BAR's 1776 was one of the most attractive, in my opinion.
A question for someone more conversant with boxcar models than I am: do the FMC 5283 boxcar models now in the Roundhouse series have proper dimensions, or are they one of the types with the wrong width?
More questions, which at some point I'll send to Athearn myself: What are the three body types for the HO Airslides shown, or are there only two? Will the models of the PRR GP7's actually be black or Dark Green Locomotive Enamel? And what color is the lettering: gold, imitation gold or just yellow?
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Post by The Ferro Kid on Sept 24, 2021 2:50:05 GMT -8
The URL for the new announcements generally is: www.athearn.com/Articles/Hobbywire.aspxWow! PRR GP7s with steam generators for passenger service Williamsport to Buffalo. Never saw those in action. Those trains were likely off before I got as far as the Pennsy line through East Aurora and Elma, NY on my bicycle 1965 or so. I only saw the glorious Tuscan Red E-units on passenger trains. |
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Post by riogrande on Sept 24, 2021 2:52:32 GMT -8
The single bay airslides look nice; other than that, not much in recent Athearn announcements have a target on me. Hopefully they'll get around to more Genesis ICC cabooses soon.
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Post by ambluco on Sept 24, 2021 3:19:18 GMT -8
Propbably not. My order for a round of B&O cabooses was pushed off from due this month to due in Feb 2022 now. The single bay airslides look nice; other than that, not much in recent Athearn announcements have a target on me. Hopefully they'll get around to more Genesis ICC cabooses soon. |
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Post by markfj on Sept 24, 2021 4:10:03 GMT -8
More GP38-2s are always welcomed. Now how about a Genesis GP38 or 40?  Those 2600 airslide hoppers are really nice. I got one from the previous run and it is a work of art. Did Athearn ever offer this car in the late Pennsy paint scheme? I’ve got a two sets of Dan Kohlberg PRR decals for the 2600 airslide and have been searching in vain for an undecorated kit for them. If anyone has a kit that they want to sell please PM me. Thanks, Mark |
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Post by riogrande on Sept 24, 2021 4:35:05 GMT -8
Propbably not. My order for a round of B&O cabooses was pushed off from due this month to due in Feb 2022 now. The single bay airslides look nice; other than that, not much in recent Athearn announcements have a target on me. Hopefully they'll get around to more Genesis ICC cabooses soon. That is modus operandi for production items to be pushed off. Add to that the delays at the ports while container ships are stacked up waiting out in the ocean - 60 some in recent news reports. |
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Post by ssw on Sept 24, 2021 5:05:07 GMT -8
I'll take all of the MKT GP38-2's...
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Post by mdvle on Sept 24, 2021 5:07:59 GMT -8
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 24, 2021 5:51:45 GMT -8
A question for someone more conversant with boxcar models than I am: do the FMC 5283 boxcar models now in the Roundhouse series have proper dimensions, or are they one of the types with the wrong width? Does that really matter?:  However, I do believe it is the correct width. It appears Athearn has two FMC 5283's, one being the former, and too wide, MDC car; and the other being an Athearn-designed car based on their old Railbox, with new sides. If'n you want a 5283, I'd recommend Intermountain's. Unless you yearn for working sliding doors. Ed |
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Post by rounder on Sept 24, 2021 5:56:48 GMT -8
that looks like the reworked ‘rail box’ car…..those definitely ain’t FMC ends.
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Post by surlyknuckle on Sept 24, 2021 7:09:53 GMT -8
Those Airslides with minimal lettering will be great to do a few cars with Dan Kohlberg decals (Liberty Milling, Germantown MD). They're hard to find on eBay. About a year ago, I won a NKP Airslide that I figured would be simple enough to remove the lettering and re-decal the car. When I got the car, it appeared that it had been assembled poorly at the factory, and the bottom pieces had more or less been "forced" into fitting with the shell. Nothing fit properly, and was warped from making it "work" so the car is basically useless except as a parts source for a roofwalk, brake equipment, etc. You couldn't tell from the photos, and you wouldn't be able to tell in person unless you flipped the car over and started working on it. The car appeared to be mint in box, so I don't think the seller even had any idea. Oh well, on the shelf of purgatory it went.
So yeah, I'm in for two 2-packs. Low cube containers in OCL and YM Line? Ohhhh boy yes!! I was thinking about suggesting some of those roads to Scale Trains for use on their low cube 40' containers. Definitely needed. Athearn has previously made some 70s and 80s container schemes on their hi cube containers that would not be right for the 70s and early 80s. I have some of those as stand-ins but could use low cube 40's in EMC (Evergreen), CTI and Gelco... please?
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Post by simulatortrain on Sept 24, 2021 7:38:50 GMT -8
I really like the idea of that SCL airslide, but at least the reporting marks need some love. Seems like many of their products these days they just picked something that kinda looks right and called it a day.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 24, 2021 7:40:32 GMT -8
...but could use low cube 40's in EMC (Evergreen)... I recommend picking up some of the Atlas versions. I'm happy with mine. They apparently have all the end-corrugations done right. Intermountain has done Evergreen, also; but they got the lettering off-center. I will concede that the container they copied might have had the lettering off-center, too. Maybe. I'm a big fan of Evergreen boxes because they haven't changed in decades (as far as I can tell). They never stuck their web address up on the corner, which then dates the boxes. Ed |
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Post by csxt8400 on Sept 24, 2021 9:06:02 GMT -8
I really like the idea of that SCL airslide, but at least the reporting marks need some love. Seems like many of their products these days they just picked something that kinda looks right and called it a day. I zoomed in on that immediately last night, too. On that same token, if Athearn is using the same number font for the GTW GP38-2's as they did for the GP40-2, it needs similar attention. |
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Post by trainboyy on Sept 24, 2021 9:18:56 GMT -8
Those Airslides with minimal lettering will be great to do a few cars with Dan Kohlberg decals (Liberty Milling, Germantown MD). They're hard to find on eBay. About a year ago, I won a NKP Airslide that I figured would be simple enough to remove the lettering and re-decal the car. When I got the car, it appeared that it had been assembled poorly at the factory, and the bottom pieces had more or less been "forced" into fitting with the shell. Nothing fit properly, and was warped from making it "work" so the car is basically useless except as a parts source for a roofwalk, brake equipment, etc. You couldn't tell from the photos, and you wouldn't be able to tell in person unless you flipped the car over and started working on it. The car appeared to be mint in box, so I don't think the seller even had any idea. Oh well, on the shelf of purgatory it went. So yeah, I'm in for two 2-packs. Low cube containers in OCL and YM Line? Ohhhh boy yes!! I was thinking about suggesting some of those roads to Scale Trains for use on their low cube 40' containers. Definitely needed. Athearn has previously made some 70s and 80s container schemes on their hi cube containers that would not be right for the 70s and early 80s. I have some of those as stand-ins but could use low cube 40's in EMC (Evergreen), CTI and Gelco... please? Warning: container fanatic ramblings below! The YM Line (older scheme) is a very nice surprise; never been made in HO before despite being pretty common on several railroads from the 80s thru the mid 90s (roughly!) The KKFU/K-Line ones are really neat in themselves, could be used from the 90s to now roughly. Pretty much any container without a website link is good for the 80s-90s-2000s. Nedlloyd is good for the 80s(?) thru 2000s, even though P&O-Nedlloyd happened in 1997, there were plenty of stragglers. The Hanjin one looks to be a 2000s-2010s era container judging by the website, an odd choice kind of. Could be convincing for earlier eras if the website link was scrubbed off. The Beacon container (leased to Yang Ming.. wow, three YM cans in one run!) could reasonably fit into a 2000s to now era, but I'm no container expert. I'm more of a "container generalist" (i know general knowledge but i don't know everything!), but I assume that the container lines started leasing from Beacon, Triton, Textainer etc in the 2000s, could be earlier, don't take my word for any of this lol. The OCL is the most exciting one of the bunch because I've never seen any of them in HO before. The only other model I can think of that's in this scheme is the C-Rail (OO Scale) model, but they're too big to fit in an HO scale consist. I've been looking at Jacksonville Terminal Company's offerings for the N scale container market, and have been wishing that someone make at least some of the paintschemes they've done in HO. I'm glad that Athearn is trying to fill the gap instead of doing another run of the same 10 container companies, because there's far more than 10 in total, especially in the 1990s where you'd see far more variety. Sorry for my rambling, I hope I'm not wrong (if I am, no big deal) but I'm just hoping that someone makes Tiphook, Cronos, Mitsui O.S.K. Lines (with the big banner reading the company's name), Transamerica Leasing (yes, they owned 20' and 40's!), Atlantic Container Line... oh I'll stop begging, maybe someone should take notes from Jacksonville Terminal company and make what they're making in HO instead of N. |
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Post by csxt8400 on Sept 24, 2021 9:33:53 GMT -8
Those Airslides with minimal lettering will be great to do a few cars with Dan Kohlberg decals (Liberty Milling, Germantown MD). They're hard to find on eBay. About a year ago, I won a NKP Airslide that I figured would be simple enough to remove the lettering and re-decal the car. When I got the car, it appeared that it had been assembled poorly at the factory, and the bottom pieces had more or less been "forced" into fitting with the shell. Nothing fit properly, and was warped from making it "work" so the car is basically useless except as a parts source for a roofwalk, brake equipment, etc. You couldn't tell from the photos, and you wouldn't be able to tell in person unless you flipped the car over and started working on it. The car appeared to be mint in box, so I don't think the seller even had any idea. Oh well, on the shelf of purgatory it went. So yeah, I'm in for two 2-packs. Low cube containers in OCL and YM Line? Ohhhh boy yes!! I was thinking about suggesting some of those roads to Scale Trains for use on their low cube 40' containers. Definitely needed. Athearn has previously made some 70s and 80s container schemes on their hi cube containers that would not be right for the 70s and early 80s. I have some of those as stand-ins but could use low cube 40's in EMC (Evergreen), CTI and Gelco... please? Warning: container fanatic ramblings below! The YM Line (older scheme) is a very nice surprise; never been made in HO before despite being pretty common on several railroads from the 80s thru the mid 90s (roughly!) The KKFU/K-Line ones are really neat in themselves, could be used from the 90s to now roughly. Pretty much any container without a website link is good for the 80s-90s-2000s. Nedlloyd is good for the 80s(?) thru 2000s, even though P&O-Nedlloyd happened in 1997, there were plenty of stragglers. The Hanjin one looks to be a 2000s-2010s era container judging by the website, an odd choice kind of. Could be convincing for earlier eras if the website link was scrubbed off. The Beacon container (leased to Yang Ming.. wow, three YM cans in one run!) could reasonably fit into a 2000s to now era, but I'm no container expert. I'm more of a "container generalist" (i know general knowledge but i don't know everything!), but I assume that the container lines started leasing from Beacon, Triton, Textainer etc in the 2000s, could be earlier, don't take my word for any of this lol. The OCL is the most exciting one of the bunch because I've never seen any of them in HO before. The only other model I can think of that's in this scheme is the C-Rail (OO Scale) model, but they're too big to fit in an HO scale consist. I've been looking at Jacksonville Terminal Company's offerings for the N scale container market, and have been wishing that someone make at least some of the paintschemes they've done in HO. I'm glad that Athearn is trying to fill the gap instead of doing another run of the same 10 container companies, because there's far more than 10 in total, especially in the 1990s where you'd see far more variety. Sorry for my rambling, I hope I'm not wrong (if I am, no big deal) but I'm just hoping that someone makes Tiphook, Cronos, Mitsui O.S.K. Lines (with the big banner reading the company's name), Transamerica Leasing (yes, they owned 20' and 40's!), Atlantic Container Line... oh I'll stop begging, maybe someone should take notes from Jacksonville Terminal company and make what they're making in HO instead of N. I could go for some of the 'gator carrying OSK lines, I think the previous run was not put on the correct container if I'm recollecting right. I believe they had both the smooth side and corrugated cans painted roughly the same, no? |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 24, 2021 9:34:09 GMT -8
It's IMPOSSIBLE to yatter too much about containers.
For Textainer, anyway, it goes back beyond 1995, as that's when I inherited "ownership" of a couple. I've always linked Triton with Textainer on the timeline. Beacon SEEMS to be later, though..........
Wikipedia says Textainer started in 1979.
Transamerica's been done in 40' without the "pointy building" (it's what we locals call it) by ScaleTrains. Intermountain is taking reservations for 20's WITH the pointy building.
Hanjin and Hyundai containers have been produced both with and without the website. Take yer pick. One thing I like about the Hyundai is that, in my area of interest, there were a LOT of 45's mixed into the pile. As opposed to Evergreen, where they're still rare.
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Post by unittrain on Sept 24, 2021 9:36:40 GMT -8
I'll probably go for a Pennsy GP7 as I have 3 GP9s and a GP9B in Pennsy, like the airslides too. Would like to see PC GP38-2s as I only have one in PC they ran these before I switched to HO and found one on ebay the Detroit Edison yellow birds would be nice too as I model the Pennsy Cleveland Pittsburgh line in early Conrail, as well as early PC. We still need GP40s I have Atlas units but wouldn't mind seeing a genesis one.
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Post by csxt8400 on Sept 24, 2021 9:37:26 GMT -8
It's IMPOSSIBLE to yatter too much about containers. For Textainer, anyway, it goes back beyond 1995, as that's when I inherited "ownership" of a couple. I've always linked Triton with Textainer on the timeline. Beacon SEEMS to be later, though.......... Wikipedia says Textainer started in 1979. Transamerica's been done in 40' without the "pointy building" (it's what we locals call it) by ScaleTrains. Intermountain is taking reservations for 20's WITH the pointy building. Hanjin and Hyundai containers have been produced both with and without the website. Take yer pick. One thing I like about the Hyundai is that, in my area of interest, there were a LOT of 45's mixed into the pile. As opposed to Evergreen, where they're still rare. Ed Plenty of OOCL 45's as well. You are right about the Evergreen 45's, I was beginning to think they were a figment of someone's imagination. I did see one last year at work, it was about as close to bigfoot in my container world. |
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Post by trainboyy on Sept 24, 2021 9:45:47 GMT -8
Warning: container fanatic ramblings below! The YM Line (older scheme) is a very nice surprise; never been made in HO before despite being pretty common on several railroads from the 80s thru the mid 90s (roughly!) The KKFU/K-Line ones are really neat in themselves, could be used from the 90s to now roughly. Pretty much any container without a website link is good for the 80s-90s-2000s. Nedlloyd is good for the 80s(?) thru 2000s, even though P&O-Nedlloyd happened in 1997, there were plenty of stragglers. The Hanjin one looks to be a 2000s-2010s era container judging by the website, an odd choice kind of. Could be convincing for earlier eras if the website link was scrubbed off. The Beacon container (leased to Yang Ming.. wow, three YM cans in one run!) could reasonably fit into a 2000s to now era, but I'm no container expert. I'm more of a "container generalist" (i know general knowledge but i don't know everything!), but I assume that the container lines started leasing from Beacon, Triton, Textainer etc in the 2000s, could be earlier, don't take my word for any of this lol. The OCL is the most exciting one of the bunch because I've never seen any of them in HO before. The only other model I can think of that's in this scheme is the C-Rail (OO Scale) model, but they're too big to fit in an HO scale consist. I've been looking at Jacksonville Terminal Company's offerings for the N scale container market, and have been wishing that someone make at least some of the paintschemes they've done in HO. I'm glad that Athearn is trying to fill the gap instead of doing another run of the same 10 container companies, because there's far more than 10 in total, especially in the 1990s where you'd see far more variety. Sorry for my rambling, I hope I'm not wrong (if I am, no big deal) but I'm just hoping that someone makes Tiphook, Cronos, Mitsui O.S.K. Lines (with the big banner reading the company's name), Transamerica Leasing (yes, they owned 20' and 40's!), Atlantic Container Line... oh I'll stop begging, maybe someone should take notes from Jacksonville Terminal company and make what they're making in HO instead of N. I could go for some of the 'gator carrying OSK lines, I think the previous run was not put on the correct container if I'm recollecting right. I believe they had both the smooth side and corrugated cans painted roughly the same, no? According to matts-place, yes!  Sheet-post ^  Corrugated (panel near one end, a spotting feature for Mitsui cans) ^ |
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Post by surlyknuckle on Sept 24, 2021 11:37:36 GMT -8
I am happy to have a container discussion, especially on the older liveries. I too, have never seen any HO scale OCL containers before. I do recall a 20' version in OO gauge available in Europe(?). When I was a kid, I had a Matchbox-equivalent sized tractor trailer with two OCL 20' reefer cans on a flatbed. Very crude, not good for HO scale, and not likely a prototype but for YEARS I've been wondering why we couldn't get HO scale OCL cans. Same for the YM Lines stuff...they seem to have been fairly common. Good point about ACL cans being needed as well, I don't think there has ever been one one except for the AHM/Life Like 20' container. I'm glad there is a good list of modern container equipment available these days; modern intermodal modelers are quite common in my friend group, and they are an interesting aspect of current railroad operations. But we still have some holes to fill when it comes to 60s, 70s, and 80s intermodal. Again, I lobby for standard height cans in EMC, Gelco, CTI, and whatever others are needed. And to that end, try finding 40' and 20' container chassis to run them with. I have a small stash of Athearn 20' chassis kits I have been building over the years. I bought them all in either UNDEC or FlexiVan. I've been fudging a lot of the paint and decal work because the only thing harder than buying the models is finding prototype pics of the chassis from that era. The also don't exactly match the style of chassis that had a sliding set of wheels, which resulted in them riding at a steep, pitched angle on flat cars. I just started completely fudging the Athearn kits by shimming the end of the chassis with the wheel assembly so that it rides at that pitched angle, but don't look too close. I've been able to purchase two 3-packs of the American Models Limited 40' chassis. They are flat, unpainted kits that go together pretty quickly. A rattle-can paint job and some "close enough" looking decal work and that pretty much completes my 40' chassis fleet. Included below is an older picture of an BLMA F89J with 2 40' container/chassis combos. The Sea Land job is an Intermountain container with cut-down Athearn 45' chassis I was able to find for cheap. Repainted and given a quick and dirty decal job. The EMC container is an Athearn 40' can releases as a blue box kit in the 90s. I'd like to replace this container with a standard height can once one becomes available in this paint scheme. The chassis is from American Models Limited, and even those are becoming hard to find now. It was built up from their flat kit, painted, and decaled into Evergreen. I'm sure it's not accurate for my era, but I do like how it looks.  TTX 601003 by Freight Engineer, on Flickr |
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Post by unit on Sept 24, 2021 12:27:19 GMT -8
It's IMPOSSIBLE to yatter too much about containers. Hanjin and Hyundai containers have been produced both with and without the website. Take yer pick. One thing I like about the Hyundai is that, in my area of interest, there were a LOT of 45's mixed into the pile. As opposed to Evergreen, where they're still rare. Ed I am mistaken or was the original Athearn blue box release the only time anyone has produced a 40' Hanjin container sans web address? Those models were also foobies as far as I can tell, as I have not been able to find prototype picturs of any Hanjin 40' containers with the logo panels or in green paint. I am also disregarding the Con-Cor or other toy like products that may be out there. Would really like some additional Hanjin containers for my mid 90's era SP stack train and have never been able to find any. |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Sept 24, 2021 13:12:30 GMT -8
It's IMPOSSIBLE to yatter too much about containers. Hanjin and Hyundai containers have been produced both with and without the website. Take yer pick. One thing I like about the Hyundai is that, in my area of interest, there were a LOT of 45's mixed into the pile. As opposed to Evergreen, where they're still rare. Ed I am mistaken or was the original Athearn blue box release the only time anyone has produced a 40' Hanjin container sans web address? Those models were also foobies as far as I can tell, as I have not been able to find prototype picturs of any Hanjin 40' containers with the logo panels or in green paint. I am also disregarding the Con-Cor or other toy like products that may be out there. Would really like some additional Hanjin containers for my mid 90's era SP stack train and have never been able to find any. MY MISTAKE. I went to The Basement to check out my pile o' Hanjin. ALL website. Yikes. Now Hyundai. THOSE I've got without website. And I, too, would like some non-web Hanjin. ATLAS? Are you hearing us?? We have money! Ed |
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Post by trainboyy on Sept 24, 2021 16:35:27 GMT -8
I am happy to have a container discussion, especially on the older liveries. I too, have never seen any HO scale OCL containers before. I do recall a 20' version in OO gauge available in Europe(?). When I was a kid, I had a Matchbox-equivalent sized tractor trailer with two OCL 20' reefer cans on a flatbed. Very crude, not good for HO scale, and not likely a prototype but for YEARS I've been wondering why we couldn't get HO scale OCL cans. Same for the YM Lines stuff...they seem to have been fairly common. Good point about ACL cans being needed as well, I don't think there has ever been one one except for the AHM/Life Like 20' container. I'm glad there is a good list of modern container equipment available these days; modern intermodal modelers are quite common in my friend group, and they are an interesting aspect of current railroad operations. But we still have some holes to fill when it comes to 60s, 70s, and 80s intermodal. Again, I lobby for standard height cans in EMC, Gelco, CTI, and whatever others are needed. I could make a list of various container lines we need in HO. It would take a while, and could do with a seperate thread, but it'd be fun at least to me! I might start on that tomorrow.  Also yes, early Evergreen as well as CTI/Gelco are needed. I have a Gelco 20 footer, unsure if it'd show up in my era but I can make an exception. |
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Post by ChessieFan1978 on Sept 24, 2021 17:13:41 GMT -8
CTI for sure! Walthers made them on 20ft but the Red is off. Need the 40ft versions also
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Post by fr8kar on Sept 24, 2021 19:33:43 GMT -8
The original Athearn blue box twin pack of Hanjin 40' containers - one green and one blue - did not have the website. ScaleTrains released Hanjin blue containers in their first run without the website as well.
I had that Yatming semi-tractor trailer with the container chassis and two 20' reefer containers. Mine were lettered for OOCL. Those trucks seemed to be slightly undersized for HO scale, but at the time it was hard to be choosy. I've seen some really respectable models made from those old die-cast Yatming trucks. The Tyco Kenworth K100 and Athearn Freightliner COE were much easier to work with, though.
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Post by fr8kar on Sept 24, 2021 19:42:05 GMT -8
I could make a list of various container lines we need in HO. It would take a while, and could do with a seperate thread, but it'd be fun at least to me! I might start on that tomorrow. I'd love to see that! One thing I enjoy about modeling intermodal is the ability to create more than one train by collecting different loads. You can have two or three sets of containers for a given set of well cars to model different trains. I've got so many Maersk, Evergreen and APL containers that I can almost fill out my well cars three times to make up some of the Santa Fe, SP and UP trains I grew up with. You can do the same thing with trailers, too. I have so many of them I can fill up my flatcars at least twice. And yet there are more I want to build... |
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Post by loco8107 on Sept 25, 2021 9:58:39 GMT -8
Nice to see some CSX ex CR 38-2’s being done. I see they’re using the 2759 again (was done in RTR years ago) and it would be nice to see the yn2 ex CR GP’s again one day, whether it be Genesis or Roundhouse. That was definitely their best scheme. Time to start saving up again!
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Post by stevewagner on Sept 25, 2021 13:33:05 GMT -8
Amen to the main points of Ryan H's most recent posting as fr8kar!
I was amused to follow a link in another post and learn from the Japanese artist who designed the old Mitsui OSK Lines logo that the container-hefting reptile he designed was indeed supposed to be an alligator. Since that. kind of beast is strictly a "New World" creature, while crocodiles also live in Asia, I had wrongly assumed that it was probably a croc! I believe the word alligator derives from the Spanish el logardo (the lizard).
Correction: Wikipedia says that there is also a Chinese alligator that may have inspired the mythical Chinese dragon! I hadn't heard of it before, and I'm 75 years old!
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