|
|
Post by cpr4200 on Apr 18, 2024 8:54:16 GMT -8
Has this car been done as a Blueprint series, or only Yardmaster? Such a nice car, but I'm not a fan of carving detail off a painted and decorated model. ~ Walt
|
|
|
|
Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 18, 2024 9:23:34 GMT -8
Has this car been done as a Blueprint series... Nope. The only 40' plug door box that comes to mind that had separate ladders and grabs was the AHM car. Sometimes. Ed |
|
|
|
Post by cpr4200 on Apr 18, 2024 9:29:55 GMT -8
Damn. That's what I thought. At least the ends are separate and can be replaced with Blueprint ends. (That's true with my YM boxcars, I'm assuming the plug door car is the same.)
|
|
|
|
Post by bn7023 on Apr 18, 2024 13:02:20 GMT -8
Atlas' 40-ft plug door boxcar is part of the Trainman series. The old Branchline Trains didn't have a plug door boxcar. I know it's a bit intrusive, but I'd like to introduce you to my collection. Atlas Trainman  Accurail 150 Con-Cor  AHM/Liliput  AHM/Roco  Atlas/Roco O-scale (with decals)  |
|
|
|
Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Apr 18, 2024 13:33:01 GMT -8
That about plugs it!  |
|
|
|
Post by bn7023 on Apr 18, 2024 16:03:36 GMT -8
The AHM cars WERE made with free-standing ladders:  Note the P-S ends and roof. Ed Mr. edwardsutorik, this is my photo. Procedures in accordance with Section 9 of the Forum Rules are required. On the other hand, under the Copyright Act, citations can be made within a limited range if the source is indicated. 284burlington.seesaa.net/category/26346764-1.html |
|
|
|
Post by edwardsutorik on Apr 18, 2024 16:27:49 GMT -8
Mr. edwardsutorik, this is my photo. Procedures in accordance with Section 9 of the Forum Rules are required. On the other hand, under the Copyright Act, citations can be made within a limited range if the source is indicated. 284My apologies. I removed it. Ed |
|
|
|
Post by Judge Doom on Apr 19, 2024 11:56:03 GMT -8
The 40' boxcars Atlas acquired from Branchline were the 40' 10'0" IH car (Yardmaster line, with cast-on details, later became Atlas Trainman kits) and the 40' 10'6" IH car (Blueprint line, with separately applied details, later became Atlas Master Line RTR models). There were different door width variations of the Blueprint models.
|
|
|
|
Post by cpr4200 on Apr 19, 2024 12:20:17 GMT -8
This car, the Exactrail 50' double door Gunderson car, and a few others would be welcomed in a "free-standing detail" version. By me, at least. ~ Walt
|
|
|
|
Post by hudsonyard on Apr 19, 2024 15:08:56 GMT -8
I wouldn't complain if tangent did a 40' plug door, especially if the first run had 6-12 different numbers for the CNJ RBLs that were in service to ballentines brewery near newark, NJ.
|
|
|
|
Post by lvrr325 on Apr 19, 2024 15:09:08 GMT -8
Roco offered theirs in that BN scheme as a track cleaning car. I have one in my show inventory.
|
|
|
|
Post by wagnersteve on Apr 19, 2024 17:00:22 GMT -8
Ballantine's was the first ale, as opposed to beer, that I ever drank. They advertised in the Philadelphia area as well as farther northeast. Those listening to MLB games on radio and/or watching them on TV were encouraged to "Give [?] the three ring sign [using one hand] and ask the man for Ballantine". (The three rings on bottles and/or cans were inscribed with PURITY, BODY and FLAVOR.) That ad may have been for beer, not ale. This jingle almost certainly was: "Ballantine beer / is icily light / smooth and delicious / precisely right / live-ally [?] golden, crystally clear / [something or other] / Ballantine beer!
Atlas's massive output of mostly fictional beer cars a year or two ago based on actual ads or highway truck decorations in more than one scale had Ballantine trailers on a flat car, not in HO but in N scale. If that had been done in HO I'd have bought it.
|
|
|
|
Post by Baikal on Apr 19, 2024 17:58:20 GMT -8
Ballantine's was the first ale, as opposed to beer, that I ever drank. They advertised in the Philadelphia area as well as farther northeast. Those listening to MLB games on radio and/or watching them on TV were encouraged to "Give [?] the three ring sign [using one hand] and ask the man for Ballantine". (The three rings on bottles and/or cans were inscribed with PURITY, BODY and FLAVOR.) That ad may have been for beer, not ale. This jingle almost certainly was: "Ballantine beer / is icily light / smooth and delicious / precisely right / live-ally [?] golden, crystally clear / [something or other] / Ballantine beer! Atlas's massive output of mostly fictional beer cars a year or two ago based on actual ads or highway truck decorations in more than one scale had Ballantine trailers on a flat car, not in HO but in N scale. If that had been done in HO I'd have bought it.
Ale is one of the two type of beer. The other type is lager. Teh web says: "Lagers are bottom-fermented beers made with bottom-fermenting yeast at cooler temperatures, while ales are top-fermented beers made with top-fermenting yeasts at warmer temperatures."
You can easily make ales at home with $100 worth of equipment & supplies (and up). Hard to mess-up, very forgiving. A nice 2ndry hobby. Lagers are more difficult since they require constant low temperatures + longer fermentation. "Lager" from German "store", "storage". Ale can be ready in less than a week start to finish.
Most N American mass-produced beer regardless of brand is some variety of little-hopped, low-flavor lager.
|
|
|
|
Post by wagnersteve on Apr 19, 2024 18:07:18 GMT -8
4/19/2024, starting 10:01 p.m.
Baikal, you're right.
However, I have neither the space nor the inclination to try home brewing. Also, for quite a few years now well over 90% of what lager, IPA or other ale I drink has been legally nonalcoholic in the US, less than 1/2 of one percent alcohol, whether by weight or by volume I'm not sure. I like the taste, prefer to put something of a "head" on it, but don't miss the extra alcohol. I started with some domestic non-alcoholic brews, liking Coor's Cutter, then switched to Clausthaler and others brewed in Europe, then to the products of Athletic here in the US, all of which are legally nonalcoholic.
|
|
|
|
Post by Colin 't Hart on Apr 19, 2024 22:50:03 GMT -8
You can easily make ales at home with $100 worth of equipment & supplies (and up). Hard to mess-up, very forgiving. A nice 2ndry hobby. Lagers are more difficult since they require constant low temperatures + longer fermentation. "Lager" from German "store", "storage". Ale can be ready in less than a week start to finish. Most people here don't need any more hobbies. Stop encouraging them.    |
|
|
|
Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Apr 20, 2024 4:30:49 GMT -8
It "ales" me to decline the suggestion of yet another hobby. Low/no alchohol works best here these days, too.  |
|
|
|
Post by wagnersteve on Apr 20, 2024 4:43:43 GMT -8
4/20/24, about 8:39 a.m., EDT
Good pun, Karl! Thanks. One of the consistently best features of the Boston Globe is the headline on the short weather forecast for its home city at the bottom of its front page, which nearly always makes me smile when I understand the humorous reason for it, which I nearly always do.
I have tried to interest Scale Trains, at least, in making a deal with Athletic to produce HO insulated cars featuring some of its nonalcoholic brews. That firm now has a brewery on the West Coast in addition to its original one in Connecticut; as far as I know, neither of them ships by rail.
|
|
|
|
Post by cpr4200 on Apr 20, 2024 6:30:37 GMT -8
I wouldn't complain if tangent did a 40' plug door, especially if the first run had 6-12 different numbers for the CNJ RBLs that were in service to ballentines brewery near newark, NJ. I don't remember them having 40' RB's. Got a pic? Were their 50' NACC cars (Athearn) also for Ballantine? |
|
|
|
Post by tom on Apr 20, 2024 8:48:01 GMT -8
I wouldn't complain if tangent did a 40' plug door, especially if the first run had 6-12 different numbers for the CNJ RBLs that were in service to ballentines brewery near newark, NJ. I don't remember them having 40' RB's. Got a pic? Were their 50' NACC cars (Athearn) also for Ballantine? Not a great photo but it is a CNJ RBL (leased): www.rr-fallenflags.org/cnj/njdx1426ajg.jpg |
|
|
|
Post by cpr4200 on Apr 20, 2024 10:02:26 GMT -8
^^^ Wow, it has a fishbelly underframe? Distinctive rivet patterns, too.
|
|
|
|
Post by hudsonyard on Apr 20, 2024 11:44:26 GMT -8
I wouldn't complain if tangent did a 40' plug door, especially if the first run had 6-12 different numbers for the CNJ RBLs that were in service to ballentines brewery near newark, NJ. I don't remember them having 40' RB's. Got a pic? Were their 50' NACC cars (Athearn) also for Ballantine?
They had a pretty good size fleet of 40' and 50' NACC cars, the brewery was worked on all three shifts by a drill out of brills jct. Accurail and Trainman have done stand ins for the 40' cars, the athearn ones are spot on.
|
|
|
|
Post by grabirons on Apr 20, 2024 13:31:41 GMT -8
Speaking of which, why hasn't kadee offered a plug style door for there ps-1 50 foot cars?
|
|
|
|
Post by dstark on Apr 30, 2024 5:10:08 GMT -8
Speaking of which, why hasn't kadee offered a plug style door for there ps-1 50 foot cars? Probably as to do it accurately, they would also have to tool new body(ies) - plug doors have the lower door track set lower on the car side and Kadee has the door tracks molded onto the body. There have been a few kludges over the years where that step wasn't taken - i.e. Intermountain 50' PS-1, the old FRP/McKean 50' ACF exterior post boxcar etc. - and to me plug doors on these cars look 'off' due to the door track discrepancy. |
|
