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Post by Funnelfan on Sept 5, 2023 20:22:30 GMT -8
Looking to buy some weathering Powders for weathering freightcars. I'm wondering which brands people like? Some of the brands that I'm seeing are Monroe Models, DCC Concepts, WW Scenics, Carr's Modeling Products, Micro-Mark's Doc O'Briens, Bragdon Enterprises and Noch.
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Post by TBird1958 on Sept 5, 2023 20:50:29 GMT -8
Love, love, love Bragdon! You can do amazing things with their powders, but I'd suggest being able to easily "clear coat" your models as a key to any powders being successful. A good selection of soft and slight stiff brushes helps vary your effects too.    |
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Post by Funnelfan on Sept 5, 2023 21:16:25 GMT -8
Thanks for the suggestion and photos. What are you using to "seal" the powder to the models?
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Post by Christian on Sept 6, 2023 0:22:18 GMT -8
Thanks for the suggestion and photos. What are you using to "seal" the powder to the models? The Bragdon powders have a pressure sensitive dry adhesive in the mix. They don't need to be sealed except, perhaps, in areas that are subject to handling. This and the range of colors are why Bragdon powders are so popular. I think they are especially good for beginners to dry weathering. I use pigments common to military modelers - MIG, Vallejo, AKI, and so forth. They do need a bit of attention for areas that might be touched. I have found that pure pigments adhere pretty well without any sealer. Each brand has their own sealer. I use AKI ultra matte flat. That stuff is so flat that it makes dullcoat look shiny. Any thing you use to "fix" pigments and powders will tend to fade what you have done. But that is just part of the weathering work. Note that some powders are ground pastel chalk - ie have a lot of talc and whiting in them. These are the powders that don't stick well, but also have uses for more subtle effects. |
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Post by jako on Sept 6, 2023 3:03:20 GMT -8
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Post by stevef45 on Sept 6, 2023 3:10:21 GMT -8
Are there any must have brushes to buy?
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Post by jako on Sept 6, 2023 3:13:00 GMT -8
Actually, any GOOD brush will do.
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Post by Baikal on Sept 6, 2023 6:50:40 GMT -8
Love, love, love Bragdon! You can do amazing things with their powders, but I'd suggest being able to easily "clear coat" your models as a key to any powders being successful. A good selection of soft and slight stiff brushes helps vary your effects too.
Your weathing looks great, realistic. How many "coats" of powder + sealant did you use, or was all the powder weathering done at once? I know clear coat can fade weathing powders.
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Post by TBird1958 on Sept 6, 2023 7:14:10 GMT -8
Thanks for the suggestion and photos. What are you using to "seal" the powder to the models? I use the bottled Dullcote from Testor's, I like because it cuts easily into about three times as much as what's in the bottle when you use a quality automotive grade lacquer thinner (DuPont 3602). I have a spray booth right next to my modelling desk so I will often dullcote a model several times as I put more color on it, this seals the work and protects it from handling but also gives the surface of the model "tooth" to accept more color. I use a wide variety of brushes for different effects, ranging from very soft, to quite stiff. Here's a couple in progress pics, note that I'm only working on one side of the model at a time, it's in a cradle that has a paper towel pinned into it, the spots of color are the powders, I put a little on the towel and pick it up from there with brushes, the towel is helpful in removing excess powder from your brushes too. It's hard to see in this pic but the model has had some orange powder applied to it as the starting point, I've also used an orange colored pencil on all the rivets, the Kato cardstock serves as a nice straight edge to lay on the car side and lightly pull the pencil down.  Here it's got a lot more color on it - orange and two shade of brown which imparts a lot of depth to weathering making it look like it's happened over time.  Finished, in early day sunlight, it's easier to see the subtleties, darker rivet lines and around the moving parts of the doors, the center parts of the car's panels have also been lightened up with some orange.  |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Sept 8, 2023 7:57:00 GMT -8
Actually, any GOOD brush will do. BUT, not one you'd plan on ever using for anything else... Suggestion. Plan on making a mess, wear a bib, that old hunting flannel or something you'd not be going out in afterwards...lots of papers down on your work area, too...I've used and like Bragdons as well and Pan Pastels with sponge applicators, q-tips or a brush. Never be as good at T-Bird....and I can't play the guitar, either...  |
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Post by riogrande on Sept 8, 2023 9:46:13 GMT -8
Never be as good at T-Bird....and I can't play the guitar, either... Isn't it a bass guitar? I haven't played my guitar in several years but when I went to Texas, my two cousins pulled out theirs and dang it, we had a bunch of jam sessions and my fingers were pretty raw by the end of the week with no callouses. |
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Post by kentuckysouthernrwy on Sept 8, 2023 11:19:22 GMT -8
Isn't it a bass guitar? I haven't played my guitar in several years but when I went to Texas, my two cousins pulled out theirs and dang it, we had a bunch of jam sessions and my fingers were pretty raw by the end of the week with no callouses. Was detracted by legs...  ....couldn't tell. My "baby brother" on the other hand is an amazing guitar player in the blues realm, tried a link but it posted a half page photo...too far off topic.. |
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Post by drsvelte on Sept 8, 2023 17:22:43 GMT -8
So true. Another suggestion. When I use pigments, I wear nitrile disposible gloves. Nothing worse than that pigment, powder, chalk imbedded in skin and stuck under fingernails.
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Post by valenciajim2 on Sept 8, 2023 19:14:48 GMT -8
My favorites are Bragdon and pan pastels.
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Post by TBird1958 on Sept 10, 2023 12:08:31 GMT -8
these are some of the brushes I use, the large soft flat one is a favorite, it works really well with a small amount of pigment (brush off excess on the paper towel) pass it over the model and it will just leave color on the raised surfaces, i.e. rivets. BTW it's bass guitar, I play in a loud glammy rock band sometimes.  |
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Post by alexandrianick on Sept 11, 2023 15:26:24 GMT -8
A dust mask too. A lot of dusty things don't bother me, but those chalky powders get me. Better safe than sorry?
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