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Post by unittrain on Jan 27, 2024 12:17:57 GMT -8
Way too new for me but Class One as a new ARI 5200 covered hopper.
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Post by nstophat on Jan 27, 2024 12:54:31 GMT -8
Yes, the Great Scary Pumpkin can finally be done right!
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Post by wagnersteve on Jan 27, 2024 13:59:05 GMT -8
1/27/2024, starting 4:58 p.m., as expected, not having gotten to W. Springfield
nstophat, I may be obtuse, but I don't understand what you mean by the Great Scary Pumpkin.
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Post by Mr. Trainiac on Jan 27, 2024 14:04:56 GMT -8
1/27/2024, starting 4:58 p.m., as expected, not having gotten to W. Springfield nstophat, I may be obtuse, but I don't understand what you mean by the Great Scary Pumpkin. I think he's talking about this car with a big pumpkin graffiti on it: www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2805135It's like the Homer Simpson autorack of hoppers |
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 27, 2024 14:11:13 GMT -8
I am having trouble with the rather thick cast grabs on the corner ladders. Compare them to the just released Tangent B&LE hopper, with wire grabs all around.
And some views of the weld lines on the sides show them being rather, uh, bulky.
Ed
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Post by wagnersteve on Jan 27, 2024 14:18:00 GMT -8
1/27/2024, starting 5:09 p.m.
Mr. Trainiac, thanks very much; I'm sure you're right.
I mostly despise the illegal "tagging" of railroad and subway equipment, bridges, and buildings in recent decades, -- the earliest large scale appearnace of that I saw myself was in the Sixties in Philly and, worse, in New York City, but this one really is quite attractive. The graffiti on even the seats in New York subway cars was atrocious. Authorized "public art", as practiced in Worcester and Lynn, Mass., plus many other places, is something else entirely.
The oldest "graffito" on my layout is an "I GO POGO" I applied to the side of a Revell yard shanty based on a reused double-sheathed boxcar that I built and lettered for my own Champlain & Hudson in the early 1960s. Nearly all the other graffiti I've done I've applied myself, mostly to Atlas "whale belly" tank cars, with a cartoon whale spouting on one, "Help! Jonah" on another, plus on a third, white one "Moby Dick". I used thin markers, typwriter correction tape and/or colored pencils for those.
In some respects what I do on my layout reflects the attitude and practice that Mario Puzo called "retrospective falsification", meaning remembering the good and not the bad parts of one's past, in a marvelous autobiographical essay entitled "Choosing a Dream: Italians in Hell's Kitchen", which I used to read aloud to eleventh grade students in a one-quarter-long U.S. history elective course called "Immigration & Americanization" that I devised decades ago. If any one is interested, I could supply references to two books in which it has been printed. Actually, the one probably easiest to find is Puzo's own collection entitled The Godfather Papers.
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Post by nsfantodd on Jan 27, 2024 16:19:45 GMT -8
I am having trouble with the rather thick cast grabs on the corner ladders. Compare them to the just released Tangent B&LE hopper, with wire grabs all around. And some views of the weld lines on the sides show them being rather, uh, bulky. Ed Or compare to the Scaletrains 5188, all wire grabs. I'm not happy about it either. I'm guessing it was a business decision, something like "if anyone wants this car, we're the only game in town". Problem is people that don't necessarily need that prototype may decide to just buy the visually similar Scaletrains car with all wire grabs. And the Scaletrains car is $10 dollars cheaper. Having said that, the cast ladders do look thinner in the video than alot of previously done cars. So I'll wait till I can see one up close. |
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Post by lvrr325 on Jan 27, 2024 16:56:44 GMT -8
When I watch Tower 55 or even locally I would say a good 90% of cars are tagged now. Sometimes tags over tags, sometimes an autorack appears to have had some panels changed leaving a checkerboard effect.
Once in a while I see something where the art is really well done. I am almost surprised some of these modern cars don't come pre-tagged for like a 20% higher price.
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Post by edwardsutorik on Jan 27, 2024 17:42:44 GMT -8
I am having trouble with the rather thick cast grabs on the corner ladders. Compare them to the just released Tangent B&LE hopper, with wire grabs all around. And some views of the weld lines on the sides show them being rather, uh, bulky. Ed Or compare to the Scaletrains 5188, all wire grabs. I'm not happy about it either. I'm guessing it was a business decision, something like "if anyone wants this car, we're the only game in town". Problem is people that don't necessarily need that prototype may decide to just buy the visually similar Scaletrains car with all wire grabs. And the Scaletrains car is $10 dollars cheaper. Having said that, the cast ladders do look thinner in the video than alot of previously done cars. So I'll wait till I can see one up close. I'm not sure when you/we/I am going to see one "up close", so I'll put up a shot from the video:  The grabs on the car end, both wire and cast, are pretty good. But the grabs going up the side are something like 6" deep. Ed |
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Post by nstophat on Jan 29, 2024 4:14:13 GMT -8
1/27/2024, starting 4:58 p.m., as expected, not having gotten to W. Springfield nstophat, I may be obtuse, but I don't understand what you mean by the Great Scary Pumpkin. I think he's talking about this car with a big pumpkin graffiti on it: www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2805135It's like the Homer Simpson autorack of hoppers Yep, that's the one! |
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 29, 2024 4:53:27 GMT -8
I am almost surprised some of these modern cars don't come pre-tagged for like a 20% higher price. Shhhh! Don't give them any ideas.
There's already a "Primed for Grime" series but as far as I know they are still the same price.
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Post by sd80mac on Jan 29, 2024 7:52:33 GMT -8
Athearn's "Primed For Grime/Ready To Rust" engines are $10 more than the regular ones, for what its worth.
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Post by gevohogger on Jan 29, 2024 8:11:36 GMT -8
Athearn's "Primed For Grime/Ready To Rust" engines are $10 more than the regular ones, for what its worth. I didn't realize.
What's next, a $25 additional for the privilege of getting a "Legenday Liveries" product?
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Post by middledivision on Jan 29, 2024 8:47:10 GMT -8
A bold move, considering the slow sales of their well car, depressed flat and the GP40 project which now has competition from Rapido and ST.
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Post by riogrande on Jan 29, 2024 9:10:17 GMT -8
A bold move, considering the slow sales of their well car, depressed flat and the GP40 project which now has competition from Rapido and ST. For me, the ClassOne GP40 isn't in competition with the ScaleTrains, since it will be for a different GP40 orders (the earlier small herald order). Well, except for competition for my money! |
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Post by big train james on Jan 29, 2024 10:00:13 GMT -8
The "car vibrator" located on the slope sheet at the B end isn't a car vibrator. It's an empty load sensor/valve that's part of the brake system. I'm surprised they mislabeled that. Although I suppose if you thought of it as the verb "empty" instead of the adjective "empty", it might make sense.  Either way, it's nice to see the detail added. Jim |
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Either way, it's nice to see the detail added.